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		<title>By: Video: Nokia C3-00 WiFi test (vs iPod touch) : My Nokia Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video: Nokia C3-00 WiFi test (vs iPod touch) : My Nokia Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at me to say, &#8220;this bar isn&#8217;t going down&#8221;. And N900? We gave you this tutorial in how to make that drop calls. As ever, the antenna-gate did nothing to tarnish Apple&#8217;s reputation. How can you with such a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at me to say, &#8220;this bar isn&#8217;t going down&#8221;. And N900? We gave you this tutorial in how to make that drop calls. As ever, the antenna-gate did nothing to tarnish Apple&#8217;s reputation. How can you with such a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Empfangsprobleme auch am Nokia N900 &#8211; gleich mit iPhone 4 &#124; Maemo-Experts.info</title>
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		<dc:creator>Empfangsprobleme auch am Nokia N900 &#8211; gleich mit iPhone 4 &#124; Maemo-Experts.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dasvon betroffen ist ausschließlich das iPhone 4. Der Original-Witz befindet sich hier, diskutieren könnt ihr hier. Page 1 of 2 &#124; Next [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dasvon betroffen ist ausschließlich das iPhone 4. Der Original-Witz befindet sich hier, diskutieren könnt ihr hier. Page 1 of 2 | Next [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AIM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am inclined to agree with Jussi here. It was all fun and games when Apple got all the blame, and when the spotlight is suddenly on the whole industry, all the companies are becoming defensive.

I have even noticed a backtracking in the media. PC World headlines are now &quot;PR Experts say Apple antennagate will not affect Apple&#039;s image&quot; and &quot;Apple&#039;s gambit my have paid off&quot;.

Are these the same &quot;PR Experts&quot; who only last week said a recall to the tune of 1.5 billion was ineveitable? What happened? And where is the media frenzy now? After all, if the problem was as bad as it was made out to be, then technically people should still be baying for blood no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am inclined to agree with Jussi here. It was all fun and games when Apple got all the blame, and when the spotlight is suddenly on the whole industry, all the companies are becoming defensive.</p>
<p>I have even noticed a backtracking in the media. PC World headlines are now &#8220;PR Experts say Apple antennagate will not affect Apple&#8217;s image&#8221; and &#8220;Apple&#8217;s gambit my have paid off&#8221;.</p>
<p>Are these the same &#8220;PR Experts&#8221; who only last week said a recall to the tune of 1.5 billion was ineveitable? What happened? And where is the media frenzy now? After all, if the problem was as bad as it was made out to be, then technically people should still be baying for blood no?</p>
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		<title>By: Video: Apple Uses Nokia N97 mini (+more) to deflect antenna gate issue &#8211; the cheek of it! Can&#8217;t make N97 mini lose signal completely like iPhone 4 though (both AT&#38;T but N97 mini on FULL signal, iPhone at 60%) &#124; My Nokia Blog</title>
		<link>http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/17/how-to-hold-your-nokia-n900-and-make-it-drop-calls/comment-page-1/#comment-10162</link>
		<dc:creator>Video: Apple Uses Nokia N97 mini (+more) to deflect antenna gate issue &#8211; the cheek of it! Can&#8217;t make N97 mini lose signal completely like iPhone 4 though (both AT&#38;T but N97 mini on FULL signal, iPhone at 60%) &#124; My Nokia Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another thing to point out is that every other manufacturer has several handsets. Most antennas are awesome with some much better than others. N900 for instance is a tank of a signal beast. You might want to check out though &#8211; How To: Hold your Nokia N900 and make it drop calls [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another thing to point out is that every other manufacturer has several handsets. Most antennas are awesome with some much better than others. N900 for instance is a tank of a signal beast. You might want to check out though &#8211; How To: Hold your Nokia N900 and make it drop calls [...]</p>
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		<title>By: duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it so hard to understand.
Every single phone can be made death just placing something metal around it all around: this is teachhed on basic school on phycics, or have you forgotten ?

Then connecting antenna to ground or another antenna, this was teached on basic school also:
find old radio and grip your hand to it&#039;s antenna: you CAN hear the effect, how the white noise starts to come thru.
This is what is happening on iPhone4 .. you actually touch antenna and if you do it *that way* you will touch wifi antenna on same time --&gt; white noise will overcome actual signal.

Old Nokia phones had antennas, where you could touch it, but that was 20 years ago.
Steve didn&#039;t wish to pay lisences for such end consumer friendly antenna patents, which are widely in use nowadays, so he invented his own ... iMazing Antenna, which everyone else dropped few decades ago and here we have result.

I have had various phones (nokia, samsung, motorla, palm etc) in past 20 years and I am happy for my current N900, which you can hold as ever you like and make a call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it so hard to understand.<br />
Every single phone can be made death just placing something metal around it all around: this is teachhed on basic school on phycics, or have you forgotten ?</p>
<p>Then connecting antenna to ground or another antenna, this was teached on basic school also:<br />
find old radio and grip your hand to it&#8217;s antenna: you CAN hear the effect, how the white noise starts to come thru.<br />
This is what is happening on iPhone4 .. you actually touch antenna and if you do it *that way* you will touch wifi antenna on same time &#8211;&gt; white noise will overcome actual signal.</p>
<p>Old Nokia phones had antennas, where you could touch it, but that was 20 years ago.<br />
Steve didn&#8217;t wish to pay lisences for such end consumer friendly antenna patents, which are widely in use nowadays, so he invented his own &#8230; iMazing Antenna, which everyone else dropped few decades ago and here we have result.</p>
<p>I have had various phones (nokia, samsung, motorla, palm etc) in past 20 years and I am happy for my current N900, which you can hold as ever you like and make a call.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsa Mysery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itsa Mysery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I noticed about Finland is that the entire country is &quot;blanketed&quot; with signal.  You can be herding reindeer in Lapland on a snowmobile in the &quot;middle of nowhere&quot; and you will get a signal. The  only time I have ever lost a signal (and only for a brief period) was when traveling by train to Oulu in the early 2000s.

Given that effect on users is a apparently &quot;step function&quot;  i.e. you don&#039;t notice it until the signal degrades to a certain point and them it hits hard, I would expect iPhone users in Finland to be largely unaffected.

I found the &quot;X marks the spot&quot;  bit in Job&#039;s press conference very peculiar. It&#039;s as though Jobs is saying &quot;We made an explicit trade off in our antenna design.  In order to achieve all the other great things in the iPhone 4, we opted for  a &#039;Single Point of Degradation&#039;.  And we put a visible line there so users know exactly where not to touch it.&quot;

Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I noticed about Finland is that the entire country is &#8220;blanketed&#8221; with signal.  You can be herding reindeer in Lapland on a snowmobile in the &#8220;middle of nowhere&#8221; and you will get a signal. The  only time I have ever lost a signal (and only for a brief period) was when traveling by train to Oulu in the early 2000s.</p>
<p>Given that effect on users is a apparently &#8220;step function&#8221;  i.e. you don&#8217;t notice it until the signal degrades to a certain point and them it hits hard, I would expect iPhone users in Finland to be largely unaffected.</p>
<p>I found the &#8220;X marks the spot&#8221;  bit in Job&#8217;s press conference very peculiar. It&#8217;s as though Jobs is saying &#8220;We made an explicit trade off in our antenna design.  In order to achieve all the other great things in the iPhone 4, we opted for  a &#8216;Single Point of Degradation&#8217;.  And we put a visible line there so users know exactly where not to touch it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Jussi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jussi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-20636&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-20636&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Inacurate&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
What does testing the device have to do with anything?  Why do I need to waste time confirming a repeatable bug?  The whole “You haven’t even used it line” is a very sorry defense in this case.  I do not need to test the device to know the problem exists.  It is a fact that if you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain manner, you impede one of it’s most basic functions.  Whether or not you can live with it or if it even affects you, is not at issue.
Anyway, as fun as this is you don’t seem able to understand what I am saying and continue to bring up points that are irrelevant to the matter at hand.  So, good luck in life…
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only by using the product it is possible to evaluate what is the real scope of the said problem and does it really matter. I apologize for being &quot;defensive&quot;, but for some reason I weigh a real world test more than the word of a random guy on the internet, who is a self proclaimed Apple hater, and has seen a few videos on the Youtube. Newsflash: Youtube is not the whole truth and it does not give you much context. I do not assume E71 is horrible just because I have seen it drop bars on Youtube, you perhaps would.

I did my best to &quot;hold the iPhone 4&quot; in a certain manner and it dropped a bar or two. As did 3G, as did E71. In none of the above cases I think it is a real problem. For someone else it may be, depending on loads of factors. That person should think of a solution, the percentage of those seem not to be rather small. For me, only the actual problems count, not the imaginary or theoretical ones. I kinda do understand your need to exaggerate though.

BTW, I really like your stylish way of discourse with oneliners like &quot;God&quot;, fanboysim and &quot;good luck with life&quot;. Brings back memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="#commentbody-20636"><p>
<strong><a href="#comment-20636" rel="nofollow">Inacurate</a> :</strong><br />
What does testing the device have to do with anything?  Why do I need to waste time confirming a repeatable bug?  The whole “You haven’t even used it line” is a very sorry defense in this case.  I do not need to test the device to know the problem exists.  It is a fact that if you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain manner, you impede one of it’s most basic functions.  Whether or not you can live with it or if it even affects you, is not at issue.<br />
Anyway, as fun as this is you don’t seem able to understand what I am saying and continue to bring up points that are irrelevant to the matter at hand.  So, good luck in life…
</p></blockquote>
<p>Only by using the product it is possible to evaluate what is the real scope of the said problem and does it really matter. I apologize for being &#8220;defensive&#8221;, but for some reason I weigh a real world test more than the word of a random guy on the internet, who is a self proclaimed Apple hater, and has seen a few videos on the Youtube. Newsflash: Youtube is not the whole truth and it does not give you much context. I do not assume E71 is horrible just because I have seen it drop bars on Youtube, you perhaps would.</p>
<p>I did my best to &#8220;hold the iPhone 4&#8243; in a certain manner and it dropped a bar or two. As did 3G, as did E71. In none of the above cases I think it is a real problem. For someone else it may be, depending on loads of factors. That person should think of a solution, the percentage of those seem not to be rather small. For me, only the actual problems count, not the imaginary or theoretical ones. I kinda do understand your need to exaggerate though.</p>
<p>BTW, I really like your stylish way of discourse with oneliners like &#8220;God&#8221;, fanboysim and &#8220;good luck with life&#8221;. Brings back memories.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called &quot;Web2.0 graphics&quot; (check google images). Nothing new there... really... but average users think it&#039;s something new and cool... so there you have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called &#8220;Web2.0 graphics&#8221; (check google images). Nothing new there&#8230; really&#8230; but average users think it&#8217;s something new and cool&#8230; so there you have it.</p>
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		<title>By: Inacurate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inacurate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again what you seem to be missing is that the antenna design isn&#039;t just not perfect, it is BADLY designed and they knew that going in.  That is a lot different than what you seem to be thinking over there.

Nothing is perfect, but they didn&#039;t even try to make it perfect.  They made a conscious decision to design an INTEGRAL component of a wireless device so it enabled the final result (how the iPhone 4 looks) to be better looking, more aesthetic on the eyes.

Steve Jobs himself admitted this on Friday on the conference.

What does testing the device have to do with anything?  Why do I need to waste time confirming a repeatable bug?  The whole &quot;You haven&#039;t even used it line&quot; is a very sorry defense in this case.  I do not need to test the device to know the problem exists.  It is a fact that if you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain manner, you impede one of it&#039;s most basic functions.  Whether or not you can live with it or if it even affects you, is not at issue.

Anyway, as fun as this is you don&#039;t seem able to understand what I am saying and continue to bring up points that are irrelevant to the matter at hand.  So, good luck in life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again what you seem to be missing is that the antenna design isn&#8217;t just not perfect, it is BADLY designed and they knew that going in.  That is a lot different than what you seem to be thinking over there.</p>
<p>Nothing is perfect, but they didn&#8217;t even try to make it perfect.  They made a conscious decision to design an INTEGRAL component of a wireless device so it enabled the final result (how the iPhone 4 looks) to be better looking, more aesthetic on the eyes.</p>
<p>Steve Jobs himself admitted this on Friday on the conference.</p>
<p>What does testing the device have to do with anything?  Why do I need to waste time confirming a repeatable bug?  The whole &#8220;You haven&#8217;t even used it line&#8221; is a very sorry defense in this case.  I do not need to test the device to know the problem exists.  It is a fact that if you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain manner, you impede one of it&#8217;s most basic functions.  Whether or not you can live with it or if it even affects you, is not at issue.</p>
<p>Anyway, as fun as this is you don&#8217;t seem able to understand what I am saying and continue to bring up points that are irrelevant to the matter at hand.  So, good luck in life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jussi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jussi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 02:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am &quot;admitting&quot; the antenna in question is not perfect, nothing is. Almost everything in a mobile phone is a compromise of a sorts. (I have not seen a perfect keyboard in a mobile phone either, but somehow I can manage without a full size one) I did not see any connectivity problems during my use of the devices unless when intentionally trying to block the lower left corner.

You seem to come from a standpoint that anything but a perfect is totally unacceptable, especially if that happens to be in an Apple device. I am not that fanatical. I would like to remind that one of us has tested the device and it apparently is not you.

In your beloved car analogy the car company has promised something very easily mesurable, speed, in this case no such claim is made. Apple does not promise dB will not get lower no matter how you hold the phone.

I am sorry but I did not follow your logic about the algorithm for showing the bars and who is to blame. The fix was a cosmetical one not a baseband one. And frankly why should *I* be thinking about it, I am not an AT&amp;T customer.

During the past two years I have been quite happy with Sonera network in Finland with my 3G and 3GS. During that time I have tested a bunch of S40 and Symbian devices and of course the N900, each for a week or two, I have not noticed a big difference in connectivity here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am &#8220;admitting&#8221; the antenna in question is not perfect, nothing is. Almost everything in a mobile phone is a compromise of a sorts. (I have not seen a perfect keyboard in a mobile phone either, but somehow I can manage without a full size one) I did not see any connectivity problems during my use of the devices unless when intentionally trying to block the lower left corner.</p>
<p>You seem to come from a standpoint that anything but a perfect is totally unacceptable, especially if that happens to be in an Apple device. I am not that fanatical. I would like to remind that one of us has tested the device and it apparently is not you.</p>
<p>In your beloved car analogy the car company has promised something very easily mesurable, speed, in this case no such claim is made. Apple does not promise dB will not get lower no matter how you hold the phone.</p>
<p>I am sorry but I did not follow your logic about the algorithm for showing the bars and who is to blame. The fix was a cosmetical one not a baseband one. And frankly why should *I* be thinking about it, I am not an AT&amp;T customer.</p>
<p>During the past two years I have been quite happy with Sonera network in Finland with my 3G and 3GS. During that time I have tested a bunch of S40 and Symbian devices and of course the N900, each for a week or two, I have not noticed a big difference in connectivity here.</p>
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