Comments on: Nokia Q2 Results – Smarphone market share up to 41% http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/ Random, informal Nokia blog for Nokia, Symbian, Maemo, MeeGo and Windows Phone news, reviews, rants, suggestions and applications. Thu, 24 May 2012 11:33:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: m3 http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10509 m3 Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:59:14 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10509 H1/2010 profits are higher than H1/2009, Nokia will easily also make a better H2/2010 than it did in 2009, so full year profits will also be better than last year. Q3/2010 results will probably be similar to Q2/2010 and Q4/2010 will be radically better. Nokia is not making money as it did in 2007-H1/2008 but it still makes healthy profits and will improve considerably from last year. H1/2010 profits are higher than H1/2009, Nokia will easily also make a better H2/2010 than it did in 2009, so full year profits will also be better than last year. Q3/2010 results will probably be similar to Q2/2010 and Q4/2010 will be radically better. Nokia is not making money as it did in 2007-H1/2008 but it still makes healthy profits and will improve considerably from last year.

]]> By: Rags http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10508 Rags Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:34:26 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10508 You forgot to mention on the net profit: €221 million vs €380 million in the same period last year. That's a 40% drop in profits! Despite all that 'rising' numbers above, clearly, Nokia's not making money like before. You forgot to mention on the net profit: €221 million vs €380 million in the same period last year.

That’s a 40% drop in profits!

Despite all that ‘rising’ numbers above, clearly, Nokia’s not making money like before.

]]> By: John Wiegand-forson http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10507 John Wiegand-forson Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:01:53 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10507 Pretty good they managed to grow market share in smartphones considering there was nothing exciting on that front. I honestly cannot wait for Nokia World in London later in september some really exciting phones will be coming out there and I expect Nokia's market share to grow in Q3 and Q4 Pretty good they managed to grow market share in smartphones considering there was nothing exciting on that front. I honestly cannot wait for Nokia World in London later in september some really exciting phones will be coming out there and I expect Nokia’s market share to grow in Q3 and Q4

]]> By: Andre http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10506 Andre Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:13:11 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10506 Android in the short term would be a significant undertaking. VERY significant. It takes upwards of a year to get a device from concept to realization and even more effort would have to go into programming the android interface for nokia hardware. There are a number of other issues but lets just say it absolutely not worth it. Android in the short term would be a significant undertaking. VERY significant.
It takes upwards of a year to get a device from concept to realization and even more effort would have to go into programming the android interface for nokia hardware.
There are a number of other issues but lets just say it absolutely not worth it.

]]> By: Inacurate http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10505 Inacurate Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:27:09 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10505 JFH: "They have gone through a storm, have continued to focus on long term investments instead of panicking, picking up Android and running with it." I still think they could do very well short-term if they made just ONE Android device that was future proof as Google updates the main Android build. They should absolutely NOT just run with Android long term, but one device to reach the masses, when all Nokia would really need to do is throw an easy to use UI on the foundation and pair it with one of their current devices and call it day. Instead of being another Android "box pusher" Nokia could do things completely different, make their Android device stand out entirely different from all the others - And sell it for dirt cheap, since I believe they can make the cheapest handsets in terms of cost compared to other companies, no? Just food for thought...it never hurts to discuss ALL possibilities. :) JFH: “They have gone through a storm, have continued to focus on long term investments instead of panicking, picking up Android and running with it.”

I still think they could do very well short-term if they made just ONE Android device that was future proof as Google updates the main Android build.

They should absolutely NOT just run with Android long term, but one device to reach the masses, when all Nokia would really need to do is throw an easy to use UI on the foundation and pair it with one of their current devices and call it day.

Instead of being another Android “box pusher” Nokia could do things completely different, make their Android device stand out entirely different from all the others – And sell it for dirt cheap, since I believe they can make the cheapest handsets in terms of cost compared to other companies, no?

Just food for thought…it never hurts to discuss ALL possibilities. :)

]]> By: Jakob http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10504 Jakob Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:15:23 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10504 Straight from the horses mouth. I liked this interview... http://www.cnbc.com/id/38013312 Straight from the horses mouth. I liked this interview…
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38013312

]]> By: Niraj http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10503 Niraj Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:10:06 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10503 @JFH http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/ :-) @JFH

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/ :-)

]]> By: Jay Montano http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10502 Jay Montano Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:51:08 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10502 Fantastic comment, had to include it in a rant I was preparing :D Fantastic comment, had to include it in a rant I was preparing :D

]]> By: Nokia and the Long Term Strategy – It’s NOT all gloom and doom. Awesome things coming soon. | My Nokia Blog http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10501 Nokia and the Long Term Strategy – It’s NOT all gloom and doom. Awesome things coming soon. | My Nokia Blog Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:50:58 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10501 [...] Today, 22nd July 2010, Nokia reported Q2 earnings. Despite the fierce competition from all fronts, and without their best fighters on the front line, their smartphone market share still went up to 41%. Some other numbers are less flattering, and understandably so given the lack of new flagship. Many of your industry ‘analysts’ will concentrate on this and will spell yet again gloom, doom and death of Nokia. [...] [...] Today, 22nd July 2010, Nokia reported Q2 earnings. Despite the fierce competition from all fronts, and without their best fighters on the front line, their smartphone market share still went up to 41%. Some other numbers are less flattering, and understandably so given the lack of new flagship. Many of your industry ‘analysts’ will concentrate on this and will spell yet again gloom, doom and death of Nokia. [...]

]]> By: JFH http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/22/nokia-q2-results-smarphone-market-share-up-to-41/comment-page-1/#comment-10500 JFH Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:24:28 +0000 http://mynokiablog.com/?p=11364#comment-10500 Ok, let me just put in some perspective here. I know very well that Nokia realised, even before the N97, they were caught off guard by the emergence of touchscreen phones as a status symbol. They were caught off guard when they were building services. At the worst possible time for them. Since then they have managed to make Ovi maps in a gem of an asset, the Ovi store the 3rd most popular online store, and they expect to have 300 Million ovi services users. They refocused on hardware & OS, and in my mind built a stellar device with the N900. Now that S^3 is here, S^4 is coming, MeeGo is coming, NFC, Pentaband, all that stuff is coming, with Qt, the way is up from the moment they announce all of this at Nokia World. I expect them to make a splash. They have basically stayed profitable in the WORST time they have ever had, and they have made the right choices, technologically, strategically, and morally. They have gone through a storm, have continued to focus on long term investments instead of panicking, picking up Android and running with it. They have 10 Billion is cash. The majority of patents in LTE. They build the largest LTE roll out to date at 7 Billion dollars. None of their new batch of devices is out yet, not even the N8. With an N8, N9, E7, X7, C7 coming out, their entire all star line up is absent, while the rest is digging their grave with the CPU MHZ wars. Nokia is profitable, as opposed to what we see from Sammy of SE usually, because they have lower costs. Lower production costs, higher volumes, etc. They will not and should not give this away. What they should do is retain the cost advantage without skimping on performance. THAT is the reason they wont pick up android. It turns them into Asus, or Dell, box pushers that compete on price on similar hardware & software: STUPID. And it is the smart way to go. I completely believe S^3/S^4 will give us equally snappy performance as competitors, but with lesser specs. Those specs are irrelevant, its experience that counts. And Nokia is betting it can deliver the same experience through cheaper chips, because Symbian is simply better at it. For going all out, for getting perception turn positive again, for getting the spotlight back on Espoo, what better way to do this than lead the way in moving from smartphones to mobile computers. Did you see what just happened with FCam. Think you can do that on iOS? So we have Nokia, Intel, & Linux foundation working on MeeGo. We already have seen a preview that looks already as shiny or better than the stuff that is out there now. BUT: Its a full real OS. Not iOS, not "look im a java VM" Android, but a real operating system. One that could run open office, or gimp, or what have you. The N9 will be a leap forward. Its the reason no one has seen it yet. I know it has been said before, but wait and see. :) Ok, let me just put in some perspective here. I know very well that Nokia realised, even before the N97, they were caught off guard by the emergence of touchscreen phones as a status symbol. They were caught off guard when they were building services. At the worst possible time for them.

Since then they have managed to make Ovi maps in a gem of an asset, the Ovi store the 3rd most popular online store, and they expect to have 300 Million ovi services users.

They refocused on hardware & OS, and in my mind built a stellar device with the N900. Now that S^3 is here, S^4 is coming, MeeGo is coming, NFC, Pentaband, all that stuff is coming, with Qt, the way is up from the moment they announce all of this at Nokia World. I expect them to make a splash.

They have basically stayed profitable in the WORST time they have ever had, and they have made the right choices, technologically, strategically, and morally. They have gone through a storm, have continued to focus on long term investments instead of panicking, picking up Android and running with it.

They have 10 Billion is cash. The majority of patents in LTE. They build the largest LTE roll out to date at 7 Billion dollars. None of their new batch of devices is out yet, not even the N8. With an N8, N9, E7, X7, C7 coming out, their entire all star line up is absent, while the rest is digging their grave with the CPU MHZ wars.

Nokia is profitable, as opposed to what we see from Sammy of SE usually, because they have lower costs. Lower production costs, higher volumes, etc. They will not and should not give this away. What they should do is retain the cost advantage without skimping on performance.

THAT is the reason they wont pick up android. It turns them into Asus, or Dell, box pushers that compete on price on similar hardware & software: STUPID. And it is the smart way to go. I completely believe S^3/S^4 will give us equally snappy performance as competitors, but with lesser specs. Those specs are irrelevant, its experience that counts. And Nokia is betting it can deliver the same experience through cheaper chips, because Symbian is simply better at it.

For going all out, for getting perception turn positive again, for getting the spotlight back on Espoo, what better way to do this than lead the way in moving from smartphones to mobile computers. Did you see what just happened with FCam. Think you can do that on iOS?

So we have Nokia, Intel, & Linux foundation working on MeeGo. We already have seen a preview that looks already as shiny or better than the stuff that is out there now. BUT: Its a full real OS. Not iOS, not “look im a java VM” Android, but a real operating system. One that could run open office, or gimp, or what have you. The N9 will be a leap forward. Its the reason no one has seen it yet.

I know it has been said before, but wait and see. :)

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