Comments on: It’s all Elop fault right?

By: JudaZ

JudaZ — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 00:25:41 +0000

….man you are clueless Andre.

THe failure of Nokia IS Elops fault .

He chose to kill Symbian … and most Nokia fansdream of a new N900 like device with MeeGo ..

Windows Phone is a frecking joke. I have been comparing a Samsung Omnia 7 (windows phone) with my N8 feature for feature for a week now.

On the column for the Omnia 7 (a phone that would be an amazing phone with any other OS in it)
row after row is filled with the conclusion … “you can’t do that, it’s just not possible”

In the column for N8 and Symbian^3 row after row is filled with. “Yes you can …you do like this”

Everythnig from GPS settings, Map functons, APN settings, how to add a contact, create an SMS , and general messagaing settings, e-mail handling, usb connectivity, connection support for diffrent computer platsforms, development languages, themes, modifications, Music file formats , videocalling…. the lsit goes on and on.

The Windows Phone fails at almost every single task.
…so i just for fun compared same functinos to my aging original N95. Apart from loosing to the N8 of course the N95 beats The opnio 7 on almost every single task as well!!!!

How could anyone in their right mind, and as a CEO for the larges mobile manufacuterer in the world, choose Microsofts solution?

How can you throw out an OS that sells in millions year in year out, for a Beta OS that handle menial tasks worse then a $50 Nokia OS device ment for the low end market?

The path and solution for Nokia was clear. Finish the work in repalcing the UI handling by Qt that was planned. This lets you throw toghether a UI with pointless animations lie the windows phones have in 5 – 10 minutes. Qt brings the easy design elements of CSS and Java script to the developers. Any decent webdeveloper can help create the graphics and effects.

Continue to devolope Symbian^3 hard! … instead of agreeing with uneducated sceptics, mostly from american techpress on how old Symbian is … disproive them, show them that they are way off base

you dont agree and stand up in front of the world and call you “bread and butter” wothless…unless you are mentally insane, and idiot .. or have alterier motivs

Develop MeeGo as a stron replacement for Symbiam, making a slow and stable transition.

QT as a platt form for developers gives an open and easy plattform to work from.
Using the same code you develop a solution once, then relase it to Symbian and MeeGo without a hassle.

…what would this lead to …well since Android is getting Qt support…soon a developer can write once, and release to 3 diffrent plattforms with almost no work at all.

…but what did Mr Flop do?

He killed Symbian and Meego .. almost at the same time as the new business flagship was released ..the E7-00

Then is surprised it does not sell so well as the expect.
Then for “some reason” Nokia phones, Symbian mostly starts dropping in sales as well…yee wonder why

The plan is to replace an open system that is golden for developers and really easy to develop with Qt ..
…for a closed system, that is not finished, that simple no one in general wants, that is the smalles actor in the mobile world….

..not good for developers, not good for customers, and in the end…maybe the death of Nokia.

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By: Andrew Powell

Andrew Powell — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:23:04 +0000

Nokia, for a long time, made the most dependable phones you could find. I sold a new in box prepaid Nokia 3395 the other day for $24 on eBay at work. The guy who bought it wants another one and/or a Nokia 6010. Some people just prefer the basic phones. But I agree, they haven’t provided much in terms of smartphones. Choosing to go the Windows Phone route isn’t bad, but it certainly isn’t good either. Why don’t they do like Samsung and HTC and offer both Android and Windows Mobile? Along with Symbian, they’d have more OS offerings than either aforementioned companies.

By: Aleve Sicofante

Aleve Sicofante — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:36:11 +0000

What I’m still waiting from Elop defenders like you is an explanation why Symbian had to be ditched on Feb. 11th.

Nobody is arguing Nokia did many mistakes, but the fact that you Elop defenders always miss is not acknowledge

Failure #7: “Annouce that Nokia will have no platform to offer for one whole year. Nokia WP7 handset is not here and we will kill the rest of our line by announcing the death of Symbian and Meego today.”

You might argue he did not really announce Symbian’s and Meego’s death. Ask the investors or Intel what they really heard…

By: markc

markc — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:16:43 +0000

Huh! I bought a N8 for Qt/QML development. If there was a MeeGo option available I would not touch Symbian with a 10 foot pole. I said nothing about how customers might consider WP7 but how I felt personally about the M$ takeover of Nokia.

Actually, Symbian is quite good. I just blew away a friend by plugging in a USB stick to check for some photos. He had no idea a phone could provide a host USB port.

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:03:57 +0000

While your points are valid, I don’t feel like they address the recent issue. Not a single person that I know of doubted Nokia’s slip from greatness starting years ago, but I believe that the issue with Elop is he had made many mistakes that have done the opposite of help increasing the slide to obscurity in the Smart Phone market. Announcing the death of Symbian before it is dead AND a good year before there is even another Nokia option was a mistake on GRAND scale, especially stock wise.

Personally I think there is absolutely no chance that Nokia is bought by Microsoft, but I would not be will to bet anything that Elop is making choices which may be much much better for MS than Nokia in the long run. Who knows why he is doing so, but he certainly has so far.

By: Shady 91'

Shady 91' — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:56:45 +0000

sorry Jay. IMHO Nokia has done a very very strong strategy. The problem that you have deal are only unhappy tattics not a strategy (like n96 and n97 flop)

By: bluechrism

bluechrism — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:27:09 +0000

I hope so, though i doubt it will be strictly MeeGo, more likely if anything, an extension of Maemo 6, or perhaps something built off MeeGo core rather than using MeeGo handset.

By: himanshu

himanshu — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:09:10 +0000

Things which have already completed cannot be traced back.so,without ranting much on Nokia mediocre strategy during 2008-10 whose ultimate result was the rise of android market and demise of Symbian OS on Feb11,2011.
still Nokia has strong position in African, Asian and northern Europe.
They can ponder about the following things.

1)To beat Chinese & Indian phones,Nokia should invest on s40 series OS.Its like “poor man fruit for Nokia”(like guava for the people instead of apple.s40 has lot of potential underneath.

2)Basic feature to be added on s40 should be-multitasking, Symbian browser and document support because Chinese phones don’t have any of these features.

NOW TO BEAT ANDROID AND APPLE IOS

1)Fingers cross for coming WIN7 by Nokia.WIN 7.5 has lot of potential and if the deal successful WIN OS will become the best selling OS.It has completely new UI and its human tendency to attract towards new things.

2)Faster updates,speed up Symbian belle for s^3 phones before November.

3)make different strategy for different markets.Analyse,evaluate and then execute the plan.

By: Ninja

Ninja — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:03:48 +0000

That’s a conspiracy theory (and I do not mean that as a dismissive insult because it’s not, just a statement of fact) that may or may not prove to be true, we’ll have to wait and see. I very much hope that you are wrong (as I’m sure you do!)