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		<title>By: DGui</title>
		<link>http://mynokiablog.com/2011/06/15/seeds-of-destruction-planted-before-elop-and-opks-time/comment-page-1/#comment-103259</link>
		<dc:creator>DGui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say; start from scratch. Symbian isn&#039;t all that crappy, it&#039;s just waaay behind in some parts, taking Symbian inhouse was a huge mistake. They should&#039;ve made it more open, allowing users to customize everything and I mean EVERYTHING. Rebrand Symbian as &#039;some new OS&#039;. Make a S-series for Symbian, M-series for MeeGo, W-series for WP7 and let the users choose which they want, give them all NEW hardware... 3 phones per series, Candybar touch, QWERTY touch and another that is synonymous with the OS. I mean who doesn&#039;t want variety? Some still love Symbian, it just needs some work, MeeGo is also bound to be awesome and apparently WP is the next best thing, so why not have them all? Why not just make phones that dual boot with all three OS&#039;s on? They spend too much time trying to make something awesome that by the time they&#039;re done, they&#039;ve wasted more than a year and the whole R&amp;D budget. Stop wasting ALL of your money on R&amp;D and make due with what you have, when you&#039;re back on top you can waste all that excess money R&amp;D. And another thing, sure feature phones are Nokia&#039;s main source of income, but more than 20 new ones? Serious waste of money, make ten and spend the rest of your money on smart phones. We don&#039;t need some super-slim phone using a new type of display technology, something as thick as the C7 with a better resolution display, better processor and some more RAM would be good enough for me and most of the other users too. And 3D is a terrible idea so that patent for a 3D Communicator is just a waste of time and money. 3D-like is better than actual 3D, I can watch a 2 hour 3D movie, but permanently using a 3D screen is something I&#039;ll never do... All they&#039;re doing is trying to make a huge variety when one device would suffice, I mean look at the iPhone (nausea) one model a year was enough tto make it one of the most popular devices out there. And I&#039;m currently using Android on my Tab 10.1v, great choice not going down that road, it&#039;s awful and full of constant bugs and errors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say; start from scratch. Symbian isn&#8217;t all that crappy, it&#8217;s just waaay behind in some parts, taking Symbian inhouse was a huge mistake. They should&#8217;ve made it more open, allowing users to customize everything and I mean EVERYTHING. Rebrand Symbian as &#8216;some new OS&#8217;. Make a S-series for Symbian, M-series for MeeGo, W-series for WP7 and let the users choose which they want, give them all NEW hardware&#8230; 3 phones per series, Candybar touch, QWERTY touch and another that is synonymous with the OS. I mean who doesn&#8217;t want variety? Some still love Symbian, it just needs some work, MeeGo is also bound to be awesome and apparently WP is the next best thing, so why not have them all? Why not just make phones that dual boot with all three OS&#8217;s on? They spend too much time trying to make something awesome that by the time they&#8217;re done, they&#8217;ve wasted more than a year and the whole R&amp;D budget. Stop wasting ALL of your money on R&amp;D and make due with what you have, when you&#8217;re back on top you can waste all that excess money R&amp;D. And another thing, sure feature phones are Nokia&#8217;s main source of income, but more than 20 new ones? Serious waste of money, make ten and spend the rest of your money on smart phones. We don&#8217;t need some super-slim phone using a new type of display technology, something as thick as the C7 with a better resolution display, better processor and some more RAM would be good enough for me and most of the other users too. And 3D is a terrible idea so that patent for a 3D Communicator is just a waste of time and money. 3D-like is better than actual 3D, I can watch a 2 hour 3D movie, but permanently using a 3D screen is something I&#8217;ll never do&#8230; All they&#8217;re doing is trying to make a huge variety when one device would suffice, I mean look at the iPhone (nausea) one model a year was enough tto make it one of the most popular devices out there. And I&#8217;m currently using Android on my Tab 10.1v, great choice not going down that road, it&#8217;s awful and full of constant bugs and errors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gordonH</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordonH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some of the management staff need to be fired. I Hear only news of engineers being fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of the management staff need to be fired. I Hear only news of engineers being fired.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocco Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cocco Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1</description>
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		<title>By: napier</title>
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		<dc:creator>napier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Execution and marketing. That&#039;s what Elop needed to fix. That&#039;s all. Not a small job, but he&#039;s gone and f**ked everything up now.
Nokia does not have a &quot;market disrupting&quot; device (what idiotic, meaningless management-speak). If they did, they wouldn&#039;t have committed suicide on 2/11 would they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Execution and marketing. That&#8217;s what Elop needed to fix. That&#8217;s all. Not a small job, but he&#8217;s gone and f**ked everything up now.<br />
Nokia does not have a &#8220;market disrupting&#8221; device (what idiotic, meaningless management-speak). If they did, they wouldn&#8217;t have committed suicide on 2/11 would they?</p>
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		<title>By: CSSThemes</title>
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		<dc:creator>CSSThemes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, that was exactly the mistake.

The announcement of an OS change, without having a WP7 phone to present, was a rookie mistake...

That is the kind of speech you only give, when you already have the alternative ready for the consumer to get.

That was what killed Symbian, and what&#039;s killing Nokia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, that was exactly the mistake.</p>
<p>The announcement of an OS change, without having a WP7 phone to present, was a rookie mistake&#8230;</p>
<p>That is the kind of speech you only give, when you already have the alternative ready for the consumer to get.</p>
<p>That was what killed Symbian, and what&#8217;s killing Nokia</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Montano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Montano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment, I like the optimism and fairness. Let&#039;s judge Elop when it&#039;s time to, when his strategies fall into place.

I&#039;d love to believe that Nokia really do have something amazing up their sleeve. It&#039;s an interesting notion (and has been said by some) that indeed WP is just a stop gap to make some money, stay relevant and then blow everyone else out of the water when they&#039;ve finished  their project.

It&#039;s all too easy to bash Nokia as they have been lacking for so long. Fingers crossed it works out for Nokia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment, I like the optimism and fairness. Let&#8217;s judge Elop when it&#8217;s time to, when his strategies fall into place.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to believe that Nokia really do have something amazing up their sleeve. It&#8217;s an interesting notion (and has been said by some) that indeed WP is just a stop gap to make some money, stay relevant and then blow everyone else out of the water when they&#8217;ve finished  their project.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all too easy to bash Nokia as they have been lacking for so long. Fingers crossed it works out for Nokia.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that like others, ditching symbian on feb 11 was premature by elop and that is the main reason for nokias current predicament. To elops benefit, it was to be inevitable nonetheless. Better now rather than later. Why i say that is in relation to what &#039;ssdh&#039; states above and i agree wholeheartedly with his point that being the smartphone market is in its infancy and drastic changes are yet to come. Fixing nokias current state would only enable them to be competitive for the future disruptions. If they turned a blind eye to the problems they have then when the next wave hits, they become rather irrelevant as a company very quickly and probably implode into obscurity. 

What i believe that elop has done right, and yes he has if you may think he hasnt is as follows. As we all know, nokia is nottorious for their hardware. Right to the last moment of feb 11, it was their strongest points. What hurt them is 2 things. Hardware was not one of them and neither was technollogy. It was mismanagement and the lack of os developement mainly being centred around software. That said, if you want to make changes but dont want to fall apart during transition you need to decentralise and outsource just to make returns to keep the ship afloat. Hence, moving software developement and management to another company makes sense as it frees up resources and unfortunately leads to cutting heads but the overall savings on managing this is really substantial. The second aspect is shifting the focus now to restructuring from within and starting afresh. To do this elop had to choose a software giant who are specialists at just that. Maybe not the best but money devils with a broad appeal globally with huge market reach. It was vice versa for nokia too as ms tends to gain substantially as well with nokias reach. Now the focus on restructuring can be effective as someone else does the job for them while construction happens from within. Now what i honestly believe is that elop talks about 2 things that being fighting google and secondly future disruptions. Fighting google is to nokias benefit and not ms&#039;s. Why i say that is because if google grows too large in the market they&#039;d become the next ms of the smartphone market. He has an agenda and its not ms&#039;s but one that would enable nokia to re-enter the market with a new fresh disruptive os that would be easier to realise with many competitors being combined strong against google. Lastly, elop cannot be blatant with what he is trying to achieve with his future disruptions as he needs sales to take off with wp7 to keep the cash flowing and also to surprise the market with a disruptive device. If they divulge too much on what they working on, then competitors will counter the threat before it is born to market. Much like what they should have done with apples entry initially. I&#039;d say, lets see what the man does bèore we judge him. It is way too early to do that. Few more days before all is revealed. Something big is coming. I can feel it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that like others, ditching symbian on feb 11 was premature by elop and that is the main reason for nokias current predicament. To elops benefit, it was to be inevitable nonetheless. Better now rather than later. Why i say that is in relation to what &#8216;ssdh&#8217; states above and i agree wholeheartedly with his point that being the smartphone market is in its infancy and drastic changes are yet to come. Fixing nokias current state would only enable them to be competitive for the future disruptions. If they turned a blind eye to the problems they have then when the next wave hits, they become rather irrelevant as a company very quickly and probably implode into obscurity. </p>
<p>What i believe that elop has done right, and yes he has if you may think he hasnt is as follows. As we all know, nokia is nottorious for their hardware. Right to the last moment of feb 11, it was their strongest points. What hurt them is 2 things. Hardware was not one of them and neither was technollogy. It was mismanagement and the lack of os developement mainly being centred around software. That said, if you want to make changes but dont want to fall apart during transition you need to decentralise and outsource just to make returns to keep the ship afloat. Hence, moving software developement and management to another company makes sense as it frees up resources and unfortunately leads to cutting heads but the overall savings on managing this is really substantial. The second aspect is shifting the focus now to restructuring from within and starting afresh. To do this elop had to choose a software giant who are specialists at just that. Maybe not the best but money devils with a broad appeal globally with huge market reach. It was vice versa for nokia too as ms tends to gain substantially as well with nokias reach. Now the focus on restructuring can be effective as someone else does the job for them while construction happens from within. Now what i honestly believe is that elop talks about 2 things that being fighting google and secondly future disruptions. Fighting google is to nokias benefit and not ms&#8217;s. Why i say that is because if google grows too large in the market they&#8217;d become the next ms of the smartphone market. He has an agenda and its not ms&#8217;s but one that would enable nokia to re-enter the market with a new fresh disruptive os that would be easier to realise with many competitors being combined strong against google. Lastly, elop cannot be blatant with what he is trying to achieve with his future disruptions as he needs sales to take off with wp7 to keep the cash flowing and also to surprise the market with a disruptive device. If they divulge too much on what they working on, then competitors will counter the threat before it is born to market. Much like what they should have done with apples entry initially. I&#8217;d say, lets see what the man does bèore we judge him. It is way too early to do that. Few more days before all is revealed. Something big is coming. I can feel it!!</p>
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		<title>By: ssdh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.. Also I feel the need to mention this in terms of the future for mobile... Wireless energy transfer or wireless electricity, Nikola Tesla, about a hundred years ago, have already started on this even demonstrating its ability (not the tesla coils which spew out bolts of lightning). But of course, greedy businessmen don&#039;t want to just do something that could be easily utilized by the public for free, that&#039;s why they wired everything and installed meters in every homes so that they could charge us for every drop of electricity that we use... If proven possible it could be one of the pillars of mobile technology, imagine not needing any batteries making phones slimmer, you could go anywhere without worrying about having an empty battery at the end of the day... this has been demonstrated by Palm Pre&#039;s Touchstone Wireless Charger.. But in theory, you could go anywhere and power your device without the need of a battery... How cool is that.. If only those businessmen were less greedy....

Anyway, with the clean-up and fine tuning of the upper management, maybe we could expect something like a twice or thrice a year FW update from Nokia.. Well, just hoping..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.. Also I feel the need to mention this in terms of the future for mobile&#8230; Wireless energy transfer or wireless electricity, Nikola Tesla, about a hundred years ago, have already started on this even demonstrating its ability (not the tesla coils which spew out bolts of lightning). But of course, greedy businessmen don&#8217;t want to just do something that could be easily utilized by the public for free, that&#8217;s why they wired everything and installed meters in every homes so that they could charge us for every drop of electricity that we use&#8230; If proven possible it could be one of the pillars of mobile technology, imagine not needing any batteries making phones slimmer, you could go anywhere without worrying about having an empty battery at the end of the day&#8230; this has been demonstrated by Palm Pre&#8217;s Touchstone Wireless Charger.. But in theory, you could go anywhere and power your device without the need of a battery&#8230; How cool is that.. If only those businessmen were less greedy&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyway, with the clean-up and fine tuning of the upper management, maybe we could expect something like a twice or thrice a year FW update from Nokia.. Well, just hoping..</p>
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		<title>By: bluechrism</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluechrism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The N8 is a good device, but announced last april.  You would think it would be ok if something in the X7 significantly improved on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The N8 is a good device, but announced last april.  You would think it would be ok if something in the X7 significantly improved on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Montano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Montano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually true. They bought so much components and invested so much to making N95, they had to rehash it to get the value out. Shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually true. They bought so much components and invested so much to making N95, they had to rehash it to get the value out. Shame.</p>
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