What if Nokia’s time……… is just over ?
Life is an endless mystery we constantly debate why we are here and we are constantly debating our future. One thing in life is for sure; though we all die or go away in some sort of way or we come back in another way. Anyway same happens in business companies come and go. Products come and go. The topic of Nokia’s downfall has been a hot topic lately and I have been constantly finding ways to piece all the puzzles together. Now there have been a whole host of reasons and very strong opinions but I am not going to go there. I am more looking at Nokia as a brand perceived by the average customer, which is far more important than we geeks, analysts journalist think.
This idea of Nokia’s time being over has crept over into my mind too many times recently; my heart says Nokia can pull through this time but my head just says what chance have they honestly got whatever strategy they choose ?
In business there is something called the Product life cycle.
The chart explains the lifetime of a product from its early idea through its various sales stages as well as its inevitable death. Now this chart also funnily enough mimics the lifetime of a business. Now you are probably saying well how come there so many old companies still alive then ?
Well companies reinvent themselves Nokia being a prime example. They started of manufacturing paper after that they dabbled around with rubber, supplying electricity (nearly going bankrupt !) footwear including rubber boots, military communications equipment, I think you get the idea now and then finally going into telecommunications.
There are also companies that where once pioneers, monopolies, strong competitors now in the oblivion or frankly irrelevant. Some examples include Sega, Sony and IBM – I am sure you have some as well.
It’s becoming increasingly clear that Nokia is moving into the decline stage.
Nokia primarily develops devices that are there to make calls. And they have been very successful at it dominating the world in the 90’s and early 2000 until…………well the iPhone stole the show in 2007. They obviously struggled and still are transforming themselves into a company that develops mobile devices that take the internet more into account. Companies doing well at the moment in the smartphone business are primarily involved in the computer market in some sort which does give them the slight advantage, but the again Nokia did sell a Netbook and some half hearted attempts of tablets.
Nokia have been trying desperately trying to gain some attention mainly from US based journalists bloggers for some attention and failed multiple time.
I guess what I am trying to say is, “what if it is some else’s turn to dominate the market?”. What if it is nature taking its course? What if Nokia is just passing along the torch to the next bearer/leader, the bearer being Apple or Google with Android?
What if Nokia’s downfall is due to the fact that people have just moved on to other brands out of curiosity, change of environment……… human nature?
A lot of people have come up with reasonable ideas and conclusions but none of them consider the fact that people move on from brands from time to time. What if Nokia has gone through the Product life cycle and hit the decline part and for the final time they can’t reinvent themselves.
Doctor who regenerating ie cheating death
A funny analogy would be Doctor Who not being able to regenerate himself.
Maybe it doesn’t always have to be the fault of the product. In this case its obviously a contributing factor.
BUT……..
I mean you don’t go through life wearing the same shoes from the same company, write with pens from the same company or drive a car from the same company all your life or do you ?
I just think a lot of people have been looking at Nokia’s downfall based on technical aspects rather than other influences such natural human behaviour. I dont claim to be a psychologist or something, but in Product design we often talk about the emotional and psychological impact of products; Apple are prime experts in that field.
So when I say Nokia are too late its probably because people are resigned to accept as Apple and Android phones being the future not because they are better maybe because they are just moving on. Just as they accepted Nokia was the brand to be with in the 90′s and 2000′s
One thing is for sure the younger segment have without shadow of doubt moved on from Nokia, most of them remember Nokia as a phone they got as their first phone notably the 3310.
I have had this in my mind for some time and needed to get this out of my mind what do you guys think is it just Nokia’s time is over or am I being just weird ?
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No, you are just being weird.
In what way ?
Well, Nokia has been strugling a lot but in my mind it had nothing to do with human nature or brand cycles.
Nokia lost its mojo in commercialization of innovation. They couldn’t develop what markets wanted. And that has been the situation for the past years. But the innovation is still there!
I’ve seen a lot of positive signs in recent months. Featurephones with dual-sim, 1 Ghz offering, mayby Qt in the future and Nokia services combined to huge volumes and cost leadership make them even stronger in low-end market. Nokias cashcow (well, sort of) at thome moment.
Mid-segment position will be better through Anna & Belle. Current and new phones (N8, C7, C6, X7, E7, Zeta, etc) have not been the most desirable but are stronger now. People have seen that Android is not all gold (bugs, battery life…) and Nokias are actually quite good with these latest firmwares. And of course
for christmas we’ll get WP7 phone for mid-segment to boost Nokia sales.
Then we have high-end market. N9 seems very competitive (I LOVE my N950) and after using it for a while, iPhone/Android seem so last season. It’ll propably only sell a few million units due to lack of marketing and restriced availability, but shows the world what Nokia engineering can produce. For 2012 We’ll probably get high-end WP7 device.
So after 3-4 hard years it finally seems that Nokias offering is up to date. Nokia still has the marketing power and global distribution network.
It’s not gonna be easy but I think the situation hasn’t been this good for Nokia for a long time. Don’t look at those ugly Q2 sales figures, they represent the problems in the past. Look at their offering for future possibilities.
“It’s not gonna be easy but I think the situation hasn’t been this good for Nokia for a long time. Don’t look at those ugly Q2 sales figures, they represent the problems in the past. Look at their offering for future possibilities.”
love that comment lets hope so
s now world will see what nokia can do.. nokia changed mobile industry by putting camera in phone now thy are again coming back with gesture movements… this will be a revolution
Get lost from the market nokia, you are obsolete, no one wants or needs you.
“no one” refers to .. you?
I kinda agree with him. Android is the next ‘cool’ thing. Nokia and symbian have lost the ‘coolness’ factor. Almost all of my friends are buying androids. Not because they were unhappy with Nokia. In fact they loved symbian. but because symbian and nokia are not ‘cool’ anymore and they are tired of them. I myself have used many symbian phones, in fact 90% of my smartphones have been symbian based, but my next phone is NOT going to be symbian based. And I had that in ming even before feb 11. It is going to be wither N9 or a WP. Nokia and symbian lost the ‘charm’ because there are ‘cooler’ things around. I expect WP to get them some of it back
Agree there are a lot of people that just move on it doesn’t have to be a technical reason, sometimes people feel like change
You are unfortunately very right.
The momentum is anywhere else than Nokia. Changing that wont be a year or even 3 years work, most likely not even happening before you are being bought.
It did take 3 years for Google and ios to crush Nokia’s brand. Both of those brands where hot when they entered to mobile market. Nokia wont be when it tries next year to get even a sniff of that old success.
Thats what i was thinking I am pretty much resigned to Nokia being a minor player competing with Sony Ericsson and LG if they are lucky
Hello John –
You’re quite empirical aren’t you
Please ignore my statement – the dialog should be started on a simple basis
Observing people is a regular thing I do as I study Product design, it also shows up interesting facts that often bloggers and analysts dont take notice
na youre saying nonsense the have the power to rise up because their course in history doesnt vanish like some bad mouth want and stupid bloggers
But, it could be different. But only Nokia can decide how!
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Sony and IBM are irrelevant? lol thats a bit rich I think….
When I say irrelevant I mean not seen as a major player against Apple and Google. The only companies the media talk about these days are Apple, Google, Facebook and Amazon where is the once worlds largest handset maker in that conversation. Every time Nokia is in any headlines its for their dwindling sales.
IBM is one of the biggest companies in the world, and has been for eons. They are the masters of re inventing themselves, even moreso than Nokia.
The only people they are irrelevant to are the people who don’t know what they do…
They sold their PC business quite a while ago.
I understand you reasoning John, but IBM not being in the media doesn’t mean that it is irrelevant. Is Cisco irrelevant, or Oracle, or any other infrastructure type company?
Media attention doesn’t equal a big company. It probably does in a way for consumer products but not so much (or not at all)for corporate stuff or just infrastructure type things.
Nokia has been spoiled by leading the pack for so long with relative ease. They need to see that and adjust accordingly. Nokia is too big for what it actually is. The only way to avert from the inevitable stage after maturity is by changing the entire company.
In that way WP is good bet. Lose a part that takes a lot of focus and put that focus towards your strenghts. Obviously software is a weakness for Nokia yet there hardware capabilities are a strength. Also they need to capitalize far more on all the tech they have made and developed over the years.
I’ve been wondering whether Nokia actually ever was a company capable of fighting. They never really had any competition until 2007 really. Now that competition is heating up they are failing on nearly every front.
hhhmmm you are right that being out of the media doesn’t equally mean you are irrelevant, sometimes it feels like it though.
I really like your thoughts on Nokia being able to fight toe to toe without their big advantage. We will see how they will react when they have to fight the leader rather than be the leader and be hunted.
I’ve been following Nokia for about 10 years with the last 3 years being the most intense. I could very well be wrong, but a truly compelling device with market leading specs hasn’t been made by the company in a very long time.
The last was the N95, but IMHO that was launched still in the uncompetitive market. Symbian could offer so much more back then than any other OS that was available, most of them were S40 style anyway.
Nokia never really made the jump to new hardware. This was primarily due to pencil pushers that only looked at cost and tried to minimize risk. But what they did was destroy market dominating devices.
The N9 is the first semi up-to-date device in a long time. It will be interesting how the WP devices will be equiped, there is some part of me that feels they will be the most low specced versions of the entire 2011/2012 line-up. Which would prove once again that Nokia looks at the wrong things.
Haven’t you heard Intel’s famous statement regarding IBM?
“IBM is an evil vampire that never dies”
They’re a true self re-inventing corporate machine.
i think you’re right.
Nokia need to reinvent themselves as a new brand. much like microsoft have done with the xbox. nokia should launch it’s flagship handsets under a new name, not associated with nokia and create a new image for that brand. after all, the xbox brand is regarded as pretty cool and no one would think of calling it a Microsoft games console!
I like that maybe a complete rebrand exercise is necessary
I disagree, afterall OVI brand cost millions and already failed ;P
That’s for internet and services. Failed products with new name.
Here, Nokia could make brilliant products, without the Nokia stigma (equally, without the accepted Nokia brand in other areas).
A BBC doc on brands showed many UK folks asked had no idea xbox was from MS – completely surprised them since that was not their opinion of MS (except being a dinosaur).
Nokia should have a different brand range. Nseries means nothing anymore but at the time it worked – to differentiate the generic devices from the special ones (and then Nokia tampered with Nseries by putting shit there that don’t deserve Nseries branding).
Also this branding could be more successful in carrying good reputation forward (like instead of N95 associations dying, we’ll have a mini brand to carry forward)
Perhaps TabCo is a sign of them doing this?
Hmmm i’m not sure about that.
Even for what i said above Nokia is still Nokia’s most valuable asset.
Apple was almost going bankcrupt in the 90′s. Did they need a name change? What would that really have changed in the long term?
“Apple was almost going bankcrupt in the 90′s. Did they need a name change? What would that really have changed in the long term?”
^This! People seem to forget or are too young to know, how bad a shape Apple was in the nineties.
Not name change in actual company. But new products with new names of which live on in future iterations of that product.
iPod (and various iterations), iPhone (2G, 3G, 3GS, 4G), iPad.
The name is resonant. The new iPhone receives the same recognition as older models – that same great reputation.
Like how the N95 worked with N95 8GB. But then Nokia decided to create new models, scrap whatever good name N95 got (in the mean time, not helping by also not improving significantly the handset line up).
See the Droids, Galaxy, Optimus and Evo series. Create a sub brand.
You mean a more UScentric approach so that they could be cool around the kids again??
I think Nokia’s problem is simple that what people say; Symbian is outdated. There’s no bigger mystery into this thing.
I also think that one has to understand, that until recently the clear market leader. There was a bigger cost to innovate new things than to maintain the status quo. Apple and Android may be in this place also now. At least iOS 5 was a disappointment.
It should also be accepted, that Nokia’s market share was unnaturally big for a healthy environment.
I am starting to think a smaller Nokia with less market share is a more focused company. I feel Nokia spent too much time boasting to people how many Nokia devices that are being used or sold each day, I mean that doesn’t really benefit the end user.
Maybe a Nokia that has to chase the competition is a better Nokia in the long run.
Definitly, smaller = nimble
Nokia grew too big for its own good IMHO.
Well…till nokia make few experiments…the other manufacturers trow new model phones out of their ass on market like cupids!
I dont think its going to be over, but maybe chance to another segment, even samsung was a TV manufacturer before start making phones isnt?
and nokia have its credits, after all nobody is perfect, if u need hard processor power get one of the superphones like atrix, SGSII, Lg Optimus x2, if u need a smartphone with camera and good map navigation and good durability pick a nokia, if u need a professional device get a blackberry and so we go…
but theres some companies that are very focused, like apple, it doesnt make better products, it made some like a brand luxury products, Eg, u can make a superoverpowerPC, but for most of ppl MAC better then PC, and i really never heard about apple making mobile computing like the iphone before, and now it break records, maybe in the future apple main work will be smartphones rather than MACs, same today is to say if u want a sportwear u look for nike or adidas
IMHPO – u cant create 1.000.000 copys if the same program with easy, but u still need a huge factory to create 1.000.000 devices to run it – so better let the software in the hands of a engaged comunnity
but nokia still there coz of a high build quality devices (like N8, the OffRoad Smarthphone =D )
it’s never about 1 or 2 factors that change a company from biggest to failing. it’s a catalogue of changes and choices and mistakes. the right idea at the wrong time etc. Apple were failing big time and had to be bailed out by microsoft at one stage. nokia weren’t always no.1 either. They failed in their products because they became disconnected with their customers. they spread their features between phones and churned them out fast. they were too slow in changing because people were in positions for so long they didn’t want to change. they dismissed new idea’s which have made apple a goldmine. Apple didn’t make anything new. they took what people wanted and put it into 1 device. they also took what was popular at the time and what i think is the BIGGEST reason for iphone success, itunes, they made music and video look brillent on a mobile.
anyway. long and short of it, it wasn’t emotion or human behaviour but mistakes made 10years ago and in the last 10 years that made a gap in the market, when there is no innovation someone comes along to change that, give people some new with alot of old’s revamped.
Nokia wants to be a service company for mobile, something like Google is for desktop.
The goal is to provide platform for businesses and people to live in the mobile world. Examples are maps, or CNN app for Symbian 3, or services for mobile network operators. They can run a mobile network for you. Or Samsung may use Nokia Maps in their devices, except that Google is not happy if Samsung sells Androids with Nokia Maps.
Nokia handsets are showcases what is available for others in the mobile.
is just like when coca-cola make the coke, back in the ´80 and it was considered the dead of th company, then turn back and start selling the cassic coke, and a couple years later stil on the top of the market
Well while Jay may have a point, I just think that Nokia failed to keep their users interested in their phones and hence the loss of mind-share, and loss of the No. 1 position.
Apple and Google are fairly quick in releasing updates for their OSs. These updates (whether revolutionary or evolutionary) play a great role in keeping users interested. And talk about apps – they play a great role too.
Take Microsoft as another example – Majority of the world still use Windows. That’s because Microsoft releases regular updates to better their products and every year or so come up with something revolutionary (like Windows 8 coming up).
So point here is Nokia haven’t given the users something to keep their users interested. Great hardware may attract a customer initially. But the software experience is what keeps him attracted months later.
I really wish Symbian Belle was released sooner. But here I am still waiting for the Anna update to my N8. Sad days with Nokia.
Author of this post is John
Jay,
Face your studies, Nokia not worth your trouble. Why meddle with your future over such an unholy alliance ?
Oops sorry didn’t notice that
I don’t think Nokia’s time is over.
The problem for nokia are:
1. It is much of a function based company to do “mindshare”, just like microsoft can’t compared to apple or google.
2.The Smartphone market is now mass market, it is getting bigger so naturally nokia’s share will go down.
3. it did neglect symbian, – it should have moved it to refernce devices, removed the “different symbian per device” and removed 500 variants per device.
Nokia has left the ui issue too late, same with hardware, symbian should have been on 1ghz, 512mb ram on the n8 with a 1gb model as well. it isn’t an overkill but is needed.
Symbian’s name needs to die.
Kill s40, and move symbian lite into that space, with dual core on the mid to high end space.
4. The wp7 platform is a distraction for nokia and massive gamble.
5. Ecosystems should be about “i buy a phone i should get the same app as x person on android but i have symbian”… That is crucially the thing Stephen elop has missed . So has Nokia.
No personal offense intended, but there are just far too many grammatical and style errors for me to read through that in its entirety. If this were a post on a forum, I’d cut you some slack, but for the amount of visits this site gets, it’s just unacceptable.
Yeah i agree on that.
Thanks.
I’ve taken a quick look and revised some things. Not that many errors, though it might just be my own lack of complete grammatical prowess preventing me from finding them. Still, note taken.
Just wanted to say that this is just a spare time type thing we do here, with writers putting their own voluntary time to post. (Adverts here are minimal to keep up the running of the site – I’ve noted other places where it’s more advert than blog). Main aim to share the Nokia news.
It is pretty much forum-like, with the exception that only certain folks get to post (thanks to our tippers for helping us find story after story).
If this were our main profession, with paid writers, I guess I could be more strict (rather than the informality that I’ve tried to maintain here).
Oh sorry about that it was a quick thought that I wanted to share will always try and learn for the future.
Thank for pointing out though
@Jay: I completely understand where you’re coming from, and perhaps I shouldn’t have been as critical as I was. I definitely appreciate what you guys are doing and the sacrifices of time and energy you all commit to this blog, and in no way was I trying to minimize that. If I came off like a prick, I sincerely apologize.
@John: No problem. The article had many interesting points, and I look forward to reading more of your work in the future. Again, I apologize if I sound mean-spirited in my initial response.
Keep up the good work, guys.
Nintendo was also struggling, finishing third behind PlayStation 2 and Xbox, then came DS and Wii and BAM, number one in a year.
If Nokia can make the most populair phone next year, they’ll be number one again, easy. I don’t know if Windows Phone was the right choise for that, but if that doesn’t work out Android can easily be adopted.
And besides, you don’t HAVE to be number one. Making a profit is still the main reason for having a business. You can make a fine profit when you’re second, third or even fourth.
I have been thinking like that aswell as long as Nokia make phones as cool as the N9 who cares if they are third or fourth as long as they continue to make profit, thats fine by me.
Ha ha ha. Now it’s fate and human nature.
It was bound to happen that on a random day Friday of February a shareholder’s stampede would occur.
That a single quarter later, the handset division would go from making a $1 billion profit to posting a $700 000 loss, and sales would crash by 30%. In a single quarter.
Well, I don’t drink Mr I Will Not Get Blamed’s koolaid*. I put the blame squarely at his feet**.
*How does it do it? Is it the fact that he is Canadian? The soothing voice? The hand gestures?
**And so does Tomi Ahonen which tore him a new one – I am a moderate newt to him – with a lengthy analysis of the Nokia figures from Q4 2010 to Q2 2011.
To be fair I havent mentioned Elop once in the post, I am talking more Nokia as a brand, overall company through the years rather than what a specific person has or might have done.
OK, fair enough. It’s just the cycle of life. Carry on.
Tomi is on a mission to get Elop fired
Even to the point of not fairly analysing (and giving both sides as expected from an ‘industry analyst/mobile-guru’, just pushing the negatives to the forefront which supports his opinion. See his CEO quiz thing.
That is finnish pride for you I guess. I understand why he acts/writes the way he does. However he is a mobile anaylist that has earned his reputation but he’s squandering it now with the recent F%^& Elop, fire Elop thing.
I know. As I said, I’m a moderate next to him. He surely don’t pull any punches and uses hyperbole, which IMO undermines his point. But he does have a point.
Nokia + android
or
DIE
(wp or symbian are fails)
remember my words…
“Just as they accepted Nokia was the brand to be with in the 90′s and 2000′s”
Hmm…Apple was a brand of the eighties and in the nineties Apple was practically nonexistent. Nobody cared about Apple then. And look where Apple is now. There’s no reason to think Nokia can’t do the same.
I don’t think there is a certain lifetime for companies. There are a lot of very old companies that are as current now as they were decades ago.
Apple nicely transformed itself from there though largely due to focusing on certain product segments and markets and the iPod of course.
Hai all,
topic is interesting…
We all are talking about the position of nokia in market.
I get to know alot from you all guys.
I want to put my opinion..why nokia is in this position.
As far as i know symbian os is mother os for phones.
but the thing developer lacks is to review it.
They are selling it without going any changes.
There is no doubt symbian is user friendly..
But user wants extraordinary to use.
Every person cant afford to buy new mobile every time.but they wants to use some new feature in same mobile which they own.
Nokia is far behind to give updates,swipe screen,motional sensor etc..
No doubt they are good in music.
They lack in inovation..
They havent provided widgets as other android are providing.
Widgets better the look of mobile phones.
Nokia n8 also lack these things..
In my view the deal between microsoft and nokia is useless.
only few users are using windows phone these days.
We all know the situation of windos phone o2 in market.
Knowing these facts why nokia is interested in windows platform.
They would choosen android..
Developers must keep in mind about the user need and their likes.
They must not forget to users desire.
Everyone today who like to use samrtphones wants to use android based phones.
I think every one who use nokia wants nokia in android platform.
No doubt nokia is far better than samsung or lg.
The battery capcity of nokia is really awesome.
If nokia is going to change mind go for android .it s just my wishes.
the situation is not very bad for nokia,it can again get their market back.
if they provide regular update and swipe screen.
Plz dont mind..about my grammar.
thanks
In facts every Company/Organizational human structure reach a time when them feel comfy, and in that time is when them are more vulnerable…
In the min 90′s Apple was perceive as a company that make “computers for childs”, but the company reinvented itself repositioning as a premiun brand (with products int that range) and that wasn’t easy it took 6 years to reach the level that they have now.
Nokia don’t need to rebrand himself, they only need to make top notch devices, things that make you turn your head like if it were a really beautifull woman, the N9 is a good sing, yeah it got “underpowered hardware” (in fact it doesn’t matters WP7 is married at this stage with old hardaware too)but the way the OS work his look and feel, help you to forgive about the zillion-cores processor, Tb of RAM and ne-plus-ultra-really-trully-quadhd resolution displays thing
Let’see what happen at the mid 2012 (remenber the world will end on December
) if Nokia become and M$ division of if they can stand on his own
Honestly I don’t think nokia will die. They honestly are still one of the best handset makers out there! The hardware and features on the phones they make are still the best! Just I guess the ui is questionable! But I just think they need to work on their marketing strategy a little better! Like apple standardize pricing, just slightly improved products (memory) lol! While nokia has outrageous pricing and it’s not even the best smart phone on the market! Although apps were important at one time I think ppl are starting to reAlize that the number of apps doesn’t matter much anymore but the branding itself! Apple is renowned as being an innovation! So people think it is better, when that is clearly no true! although the userbility being huge that is why people respond! And it’s number of users too affects the mobile market! For instance I live in Canada and the biggest mobile brands for the past year have been rim’s blackberry( one generic design of phone, and mainly because everyone has bbm, grr) and apple’s iPhone ( b/c of it’s slick appearance and reputation)! While both phones don’t really offer much features like the n8, which I still don’t have!
people are dumb nowadays and simply follow trends! If nokia were to jam pack all their awesome features in to one phone, and make the ui slick like meego harmattan and take their efforts to promote in different markets (ie. Winnipeg, manitoba, Canada ( which has the second largest fillipino community in the world , which alot of flips say nokia is a fob phone lol)) they could start trends rather than attempting to catch up to highly dense markets! Secondly nokia should stop playing catch up, doesn’t the color variety kn the nokia n8 remind u of the Motorola razors cor variety just saying! B/ c that was an old trend! So if they market better especially to Canada before the states, or even the states immediately, they could easily start a trend, ( especially since the states is where they wan to ge into, rather than let their dedicated fan base wait, and by the time in is in sale in our country’s something better has come around!
So my round up! Cheaper prices, one awesome perfect smartphone, better marketing strategy! ( ps android is soo not big in Winnipeg right now, so If nokia wants to sort of beat that trend they should start soon just saying, btw does the nokia n8 look like a toy? That’s what my friends said And I was so offended! ) sorry I just love nokia and I like to rant
The game for smart phones and tablets has just begun. These two devices are going to be very personal. Also they are going to have a wide variety of use touching every facet of our lives from healthcare to commerce to education. It is premature to call anybody as final winners or losers based on the first innings score in a long game.
There is lot of opportunity for disruption going forward and lot depends upon how Nokia visualizes and captures those opportunities. Unlike many other companies, Nokia has a history of reinventing itself. Hence it should not be too hard for Nokia to reinvent itself once again.
Again just to say! I know people love nokia’s variety in phones but in Canada phones aren’t unlocked! And we think of carriers and the brands they carry! For instance apple was with rogers and then it expanded to other carriers! So if nokia wants to work on their brand they should make one ultimate mobile phone, so that people will solely rconginze nokia as the provider of that Super phone! So then the news would be ie. Nokia now at Rogers or something yenno!
It seems Nokia just can’t make it in the US… The marketing here is just too WowyZowy with the iPhone and Android and the apps that never end… For me I prefer a good solid phone like the Nokia… There are plenty of good apps for me…
For most Americans though Nokia is a foreign sounding name… I think that is a big problem there and in Canada where I now live since the Canadian market (and marketing) is so tied to the US…. It is like a lot of really good foreign cars that don’t make it in the US…
That said I think Nokia could pull this off with WP7… The trick will be to make it cool down there and here in Canada…