Motorola would like similar Nokia-Microsoft deal to go Windows Phone?
Motorola who said no to Windows Phone because they were doing well with Android (and are exclusively Android) now are supposedly asking Microsoft for the same deal Nokia had with Microsoft for them to make a Windows Phone.
Sure thing Motorola. Because you have as much to offer as Nokia does. Motorola Maps, Motorola Distribution, Motorola Store, oh wait.
Fierce Wireless writes, “Motorola is interested in partnering with Microsoft if it could strike a deal similar to the one Microsoft recently inked with Nokia”
Moto’s CEO, Sanjay Jha says their focus today is Android (those xooms are flying off the shelves -_0) but they will evaluate WP to see if it becomes viable. What’s that, when HTC, Samsung, ZTE, Huawei eat all them lunches?
Jha later boasts again about their large IP portfolio (which would come in very useful to Google, or not if Moto decides to turn on fellow Android manufacturers).
Whilst Windows Phone would most welcome more manufacturers, I’m not sure Microsoft would need to extend motorola the same advantages as Nokia. What exactly are they bringing? Android exclusivity? Services? Maybe firearm in the IP wars?
It’s understandable that Motorola can’t afford to just go into the unknown Windows Phone world without at least some assurance from Microsoft of certain benefits, especially as they have been entrenched in the Android world (introducing and enlightening the world to the Droid branding). Thus, they are possibly wisely waiting until they are certain of the viability of the Windows Phone platform. Much better for Nokia too that there are less players to fight with whilst they’re re-aligning their brand with the Windows Phone experience.
FierceWireless via wmpoweruser
BTW, in related Windows Phone news, Windows Phone now has 7.1% market share in Germany, 2.1% in USA. Symbian is 0.6% in USA.
We should expect that with new generation devices, wider market place availability, more manufacturers with greater handset diversity, more languages, Windows Phone should start gaining ground. (theinquirer.net via mpoweruser - cheers Anastasios)
Right now that data suggests increasing market share in these areas for WP and decreasing for Symbian.
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True, Moto not using WP does provide Nokia a little bit better a window (haahaa.. me so clever) to try to re-enter the US. Not sure its enough of a window but does arguably help a little.
I gather Jha is just saying what any CEO would: we’ll consider all options depending how our business is doing, how the offered platform is doing, and btw, we’ll ask for the best possible deal.
A bit off topic but,
Did you guys know that Nokia changed Symbian Signed rules in June? Now you have to pay to get a dev cert, even to create a freeware app. Completely killed apps development.
That doesn’t sound like a change to me.
@Cod3rror :
Can you please share the source of This info????.
i still don’t get in google as Some information or News like this!!!
I can confirm it’s true
Schneider, could you then please provide a link/source for this info? Thanks in advance!
I think you should be highly suspicious of a reported 7.1% WM7 market share for Germany in a results set that shows consistent 1.5-2.5% market share in peer countries.
That’s quite the outlying result.
We must understand what is responsible before drawing conclusions. Are the data biased in some way? Are German carriers paying people to take WM7 devices? Is WM7 simply popular in this one country for inexplicable reasons?
Could be a screw up in calling it WM instead of WP, therefore including WM share in WP.
What is wm7? if I may ask.
Sorry, I meant WP7. Brain fart on my part, but the point is unchanged. Such a disparity between Germany and all other nations should raise eyebrows, not hopes.
I don’t exactly know what’s your point is.. Wp7 is just strong in the German market.If they had something up their sleeve why wouldn’t they give “fake” figures in the other markets too but only the German market? Maybe you should be more warm to the fact the wp7 is gaining ground and quit hating.
I think you fail to understand statistics and the implications of an outlying result. Nobody said anything about fake, but erroneous is possible.
Or maybe WP7 really is strong in Germany. This is one of the possibilities I raised.
But such a wide disparity is an oddity. You need to understand the reason for it before you can draw conclusions from it or you will always end up confirming your biases.
Well, one could buy contract free WP7 devices for about 200€ over the last weeks or even months here in Germany.
As usual WP7 lovers have spun this story. The real story here is that WP7 + WM6 marketshare is being halved or even cut down 2/3 in many of the listed markets. The information is actually quite devastating for Microsoft, they are absolutely bleeding marketshare and WP7 isn’t helping.
****WP7 + WM6 combined markeshare***
-GB- 2010=3.9% – 2011=2.7% -30%
-Germany- 2010=11.1% – 2011=8.2% -26%
-France- 2010=6.8% – 2011=2.9% -57%
-USA- 2010=8.8% – 2011=3.3% -63%
-Australia- 2010=6.0% – 2011=3.3% -45%
-Italy- 2010=9.8% – 2011=5.4% -44%
-Spain- 2010=1.9 – 2011=4.6% +136%
As you can see, Microsoft is not managing to convert new new customers onto Windows Phone 7, and its rapid decline is astounding especially in its home country USA. The only good news is Spain that has more than doubled its 1.9% marketshare.
As a side note I really wish this blog wouldn’t show so much Windows Phone info, I hate it.
Stop lying through your bloody teeth.. The figures are only wp7 only figures and not including Wm.. Gosh some of you are freaking annoying
You notice that he is adding them together? As in WP7+WM? Try it yourself with a calculator, you know as you learned in school. You are the annoying one…
Why is there a need to add they are two seprate OS made for completely different phones.. Have you seen anyone merging iOS and MacOS figures together?
MS has stopped developing for Windows Mobile.. Windows phone 7 is the new direction … isn’t it just logical the sale the windows mobile devices will continue to decline now that no manufacturer is not making any new dices for it..
What should be relevant are the wp7 figures which are on the rise now.. its at 2% in the US.. last year it was
Really, you want people to look at Windows Phone 7 numbers only? Ok fine…
Windows Phone 7 has less than 3% in all the above markets but Germany where it has 7%. Ballmer, Verizon and LG have all publicly stated that WP7 isn’t doing well.
“Fewer than 1.5 million Microsoft-based smart phones shipped during the quarter, equating to a mere 1% share of the global market, down 52% against shipments a year ago.” -Canalys Q2 2011
Don’t try to argue WP7 numbers it will get you nowhere. Just say what all the other WP7 astroturfers say…
You bought the phone, its great and all your friends have them too. Really amazing to use, yada yada yada.
I think there is no denying the fact that the sales not doing too well.. but you also have to admit that things a changing.. figures from a couple fo months showed it was less than 1% then moved to now 2% and now as high is 7% in the market.. Tell me of a phone which had 2% of marketshare after one year of release.. not even the iphone did that. How much marketshare does Maeo/Meego/WebOS have after 3 years in existence?
I also seen fugures stating wp7 sales figures as around 6million.. ofcourse its small comapred to android and iOS but things are improving..
With Nokia coming on, and wave of new devices from other OEMs such as Samsung .. not forgeting mango rollout which seems to fill in the gap during the initial release .. there is no denying of the fact the wp7 is going on well..
Ecen more intersting look at the posture of Motorola now.. initslly they said they weren’t to to invest any OS which hasn’t taken off yet but now they are.. what does that tell you .
And just to let you know none of my friends have it wp7.. wp7 is not officially available in my country I bought mine online..
..and it wasn’t Verizon but AT&T which made comments about wp7 figure
His point still stands WP is losing market share and very, very, very few people like WP7.
7% in the german market is losing market? you need to go to the vet dawg
We cover as much as we can that’s Nokia relevant. That may mean a bunch of n8 app demoes here, or a bunch of N9 videos, info etc there but now some windows phone related things. The titles are named as such that they can be avoided.
Am sure most of your reader will be very mad at you for posting some positive news about wp7..
I´m more mad that obvious MS paid astroturfers like you found this site…
am finding it hard to understand dog barks.. could you speak like you humans do? thank you
not gonna happen cause now if that happens everyone will bitch at MSFT for the “special treatment” and when that happens everyone else will bitch and if MSFT declines then no one will wanna deal with them and since elop is forcing nokia too use WP7 they will be the only ones using WP7 thus making MSFT in control of Nokia
motorola should makes meego phone instaed of wimdows phone!
just hire some good ui designers and pay google to make google maps for meego! then you, motorola will the the king of mobole industry!
Nobody wants megoo.. They asked couple of OEMs including Samsung, RIM and Motorola abd none of them was interested..
Seems to be getting plenty of great adoption.
At least outside smartphone sector.
Smartphone is still too chaotic, it’ll slip in there eventually.
Don’t you worry
It just doesnt have the $ behind it to sledge-hammer it in.
It has more to do with Intel’s smartphone chips to come into market. Meego will get lot of attention after that… Intel is just waiting for Medfield cores to be production-ready..
haha lets see that happening.. fingers crossed
And consumers apparently don’t want WP7, which is worse.
Wp7 sales are up and running compared to Megoo.. when was Megoo/Maemo released again, ? 2009 and how many sales does it have.. how many OEMs are producing Nokia phones apart form Nokia compared to WP7 8 OEMs
thanks, elop !
Now, down boy, I see ballmer heading this way.
If Motorola went with MeeGo they still wouldn’t have anything until what next year when MeeGo is ready? Harmattan is not MeeGo proper.
What’s so special about the Nokia deal? Don’t all the WP7 users get maps and all Nokia’s inputs? I’m sure Motorola would love to see their marketshare crash at world record levels too, and their smartphone business start making a loss. Working out great for Nokia so far.
I can’t wait til they go belly up.
Right on. “Special advantages” in this context is probably Moto BOD longing for the same bribes Nokia got.
Well said sir…well said.
Special in the sense that they will be able to change the UI if they want.. and also have their own marketplace on top of the original wp7 marketplace.. am sure Motorola wants the UI part more so they could mess it up with their bloatware/Motoblur
as if google will allow that to happen
mean for iluvapple.
Whats so special about Nokia-Microsoft Deal? What, they want a Trojan also and get all f*cked up the arse?!? Oh Jha…
Sounds to me that MS is so desperate, that they spend billions on getting hardware manufacturers to enter “partnership” with them.
Moto is the one asking for it now.. how many OEMs does meego have again?
Motorola should go die in a ditch somewhere
Telecommunications infrastructure would like to disagree.
Seems like Nokia chose that option first
any news on iphone 5 on mynokiablog?
world doesnot need another closed system platform!
android need to be replaced by meego! iam sure many people like true open source!
Motorolla has more inroads in north america than nokia, so they probably think they could use that to negotiate..
lol jay high motorola hate there…
I just wish Microsoft would just die in everything they do.
Inb4 you use windows.
Yes I do due to apps being available to it.
Ubuntu is 10x the crap Windows is selling for a high price.
nokia should move from finland to usa, this idea is much better than using windows phone
They’ve pretty much done de facto. They will soon enough when MS buys the smartphone division.
Maybe they can bring Moto Blur to Windows Phone
Its easy to mock Motorola but they are only trying to do the same thing as Noia now that the chinese OEMs are squeezing the margins on Android.
Daft thing is that once WP7 takes off, all the chinese OEMs will then take on WP7, and this will directly affect the margins of Nokia.
How are they then expected to compete on price with HTC etc on a Windows phone?
This is the downside of Nokia’s strategy to become Microsofts bitch. It may pay off for a year or two, but in the end, they will only be like all the other manufacturers with nothing to differentiate on. Ok, maybe they can produce a slightly better camera sensor or some other feature, but it is not going to be enough to make a difference.
This is why they should stick with Symbian and MeeGo.
With the amount of money Android manufacturers have to pay in licensing fees there seems to be a shift in manufacturers considering Windows Phone will be interesting to see what happens
I thought Android was free for them to use.
Having said that, I am sure all manufacturers are constantly evaluating their options and it a few of them might take WP on, eventually, to diversify their offering. Also, there of course some murmurs in the market that not all OEMs get that well along with Google and its control of the Android ecosystem.
He is talking about the lawsuits that android manufactures are losing and to having pay royalties for every hand set. Microsoft on the other hand shields their oems from suits as part of the licensing agreement.
I hope it works – the more Windows phones out there, the better. Then there will be a better ecosystem for Nokia users to shop/play in. Look at how much more the Android users have than the iOS.
+1
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