Rumours: Picture of Nokia 703 Windows Phone Mango (Looks like Nokia N9/Sea Ray). Available November
Yesterday we heard about a possibly Nokia 703 Windows Phone handset. Whilst there were some concerns by our readers that the 703 in this instance could just be a modified device UID, WMPU was sent an image of possibly that same device, which looks like the Sea-Ray with camera and front buttons (that in turn looks like the N9).
Unlike the expected 3.9″ screen of SeaRay (thus to be the same as N9) this has a 3.7″ screen (unless, SeaRay never had an identical screen size).
Specs:
- 8GB Storage, and 512MB RAM, on par with the other 7XX in Nokia’s line up.
- 800X480 resolution.
- 5MP AF, 720P at 30FPS (SeaRay has 8MP. This is a different phone)
- Dimensions and weight is somewhat hard to read. As reference N9 is 116.45 x 61.2 x 7.6-12.1mm, 135g)
- No lock button on right side (as with SeaRay) perhaps it is on the left.
Source: wmpoweruser
Cheers Just Visiting and Anastasios-Antonios for the tip!
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Btw I didn’t get around to posting about this yesterday when you folks tipped it and probably won’t. But here’s the link to share anyway. This suggests confirmation of the N9 design in SeaRay and possibly more.
“Anyone interested in the look and feel of Nokia’s future handset design should examine the N9 launched in June—the first smartphone to replace the traditional home button with a swipe of the hand. It is made from a colorful polycarbonate material and although it appears rectangular, it has a curved glass screen.”http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904332804576538291349152466.html
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3.7″ due to the space needed for the WP buttons?
5mp camera though ouch
Maybe. It’s the more affordable range. I’d rather have 5MP AF than 8MP EDOF.
8MP AF will be in SeaRay though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6oidCTUw4s 2:10
haha yes i guess that’s very true but what if its 5mp EDOF
hehe
turns out to be 5mpx that is
wonder if the lens will be carl zeiss
it mean is this the windows flagship ?
Yes then that would be terrible. Fortunately AF Camera is a requirement. And it says AF here (though again, we don’t know if this is real. A lot of things however that we were cautious about being real have turned out true. e.g. the 500, 600, 700, 701 and SeaRay)
Yeah, AF is a requirement for WP as per MS guidelines
Really?
So Nokia 703 got 5Mpixel camera just as the budget mobile Apple iPhone4.
edof ain’t that bad, if u check out these samples, the autofocus would be hard to match…except if its n8 of course..
edof samples
marcuslowphoto.blogspot.com
I think so.. The calculation with N9′s size and resolution diff between N9 and WP comes to around 3.71 inches..
I have 4″ phone , HD7 has 4.3 and there is going to be a 4.5 device.. buttons are not playing any role in the screen size here.
The things you read here can drive you nuts
I just realised
And you happen to be somewhat dim-witted, too.
Nokia took the N9 form factor – and shell – and replaced the 3.9″ 16:9 screen with 3.7″ 16:10 screen to accomodate the mostly useless buttons, required by the ancient and obsolete UI of Windows Phone 7.
Instead of more content, you now have mostly useless buttons taking space from a screen that wasn’t too large to begin with.
Of course that’s nothing compared to the atrocity of replacing the slick MeeGo Harmattan with the half-arsed mess that is Windows Phone 7.
Fortunately this doesn’t harm that many people, because like every other Windows Phone 7 device, the “SeaRay” will sell very little. That also happens to be the only good thing in the phone.
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Surely enough, Nokia could have designed another process, and another shell, tad larger than the N9. But they didn’t want a phone that’s too wide, and of course you can’t spend an awful lot of money on a single device that’s going to sell very little. (An idiot could make a remark about the MeeGo device here, but that’s of course entirely clueless and misses the timeline of these devices.)
Nokia realized the N9 hype and trying to piggy-back WP7 products on it. WP7 was reported to be losing even more marketshare in the US, where it is heavily promoted. Nokia is in big trouble signing on with a hemorrhaging WP7 platform. Nokia needs a Plan B.
and Plan B is MeeGo and smart “DEVICES” for the next billion, because only few in the world can afford smartphones. creating a good mindshare among the poorer next billion in emerging economies makes way for a brighter future ! its the future disruption what Nokia was hinting about.
You are so wrong. The only N9 hype is here, among Meego cultists. WP7 is not losing market share, and is barely promoted at all in the US. Nokia WAS in HUGE trouble with Symbian and Meego, and their only hope is WP7.
“Nokia WAS in HUGE trouble with Symbian and Meego, and their only hope is WP7.”
Define HUGE trouble. Symbian sales were still growing and the handset division was making hundreds million dollars of profits before Elop antics sent Nokia in nose dive.
To wit, crash of share price, crash of sales (still ten times those of WP7), crash of credit rating, crash of debt rating, and losses in the hundreds of million dollars
Nokia needs WP7, which still is easily handled by bada, as much as a trout needs tits.
I have news for you Symbian and MeeGo fanboys. Nokia has become the premier Windows Phone manufacturer and this blog is about Nokia, so you have no place here. Why don’t you do us all a favor and take your whining and existential problems somewhere else.
Hmm, let’s see. No rebuttals to my arguments, a few ad homs, a plea to be left alone.
That’s pretty weak. Even WP7 puts up more of a fight.
why would i even read your arguments? Would you read the arguments of someone supporting DOS? Your platform is dead dude. Welcome to reality
“why would i even read your arguments?”
That’s your issue to deal with. All I know is that you can’t refute them.
“Would you read the arguments of someone supporting DOS?”
My desktop OS advocacy days are way behind me.
“Your platform is dead dude.”
Still comprehensively outsells yours.
“Welcome to reality”
I never left. Q3 2011 figures are a month and a half away, and I’m willing to bet that bada – let alone my dead platform – will still outsell the new shiny. That’s the reality I’m living in.
Do you knw Micrsoft has lof the mindshare of people. It doesn’t matter weather they team up with Nokia which is a strong power house. Nokia too has lost it’s mindshare. So teaming up with Microsoft has enabled people to lost more interest in Nokia. I bet you in 2013 there would be Nokia Android Phones or Meego phones depending on how it turns out.
What I think is the case is that while sales of Symbian might be on the rise, the market was expanding way faster. Also, and this is of course speculating, could Symbian maintain it’s sales or even the growth of sales as it looks now?
Anna is a bit underwhelming as an OS, I haven’t tried Belle yet but by the time it comes out one has to wonder if it can cope with the newer version of iOS and Android.
Symbian, even with Belle, doesn’t really bring anything new to the table. It has been playing catch-up for years now. Not so much featurewise, but it has been doing so in UI and UX. Even a Symbian fan possbily will admit that it’s archaic to use at times.
I’ll agree that Symbian/Nokia weren’t so much in HUGE trouble, but longer term it could have become HUGE trouble. Symbian as a low-end OS would be excellent, truly excellent. Just slap it on older HW and keyboard phones. (WP will most likely suck on those kind of devices)
The crash of the share price is something I doubt has really been influenced by actual news. The stock market is highly speculative and jumps at the weirdest things both up and down. Nokia shares are something I wouldn’t have bought either over the last couple of months. The uncertainty was just too big. But again, I doubt the share price crash is solely due to Elop, after all; the entire stock market tanked since earlier this year.
It is easy to say that WP has had a serious bad influence on Nokia’s worth. After all, WP was announced an not the continuation of Symbian/MeeGo. Therefor one can only speculate what would have happened. Symbian sales were on the rise Q4 ’10, but would they continue to rise? There were very little devices out that could be sold so taking that into account and all the newer phones being launched by competitors I doubt Symbian could retain that growth it saw.
Don’t get me wrong though, this isn’t a post to say that WP will be a succes. On the contrary, it is still a big risk. But one can’t say that Nokia would be definitly better off sticking with Symbian, that would only be possbile if we had a connection with Doc Brown and his deLorean.
Nokia’s share price tanked sharply right after Flop’s WP7 crap. The market showed that it didn’t and don’t like Flop’s gamble with WP7.
Second big drop came after Nokia’s profit warning. It wasn’t as big as the February drop. So to market thought that the Flop’s February crap was even worse than Nokia issuing a profit warning!
There are two big and sharp drops, that you can see when looking the share price chart, that have caused the most of the share price loss. So the share price drop was clearly caused by Flop’s actions.
What new does WP7 bring to the table? It’s clearly behind in features, it’s ecosystem is weak, it’s incompatible with Nokia ecosystem by not haveing Qt support and the UI is very controversial. Some like it and others hate it. And it surely isn’t liked so much that it would sell. WP7′s market share and the unit sales have been dropping all year. Its sales are abysmal. It is simply a flop.
Taking WP7 and abandoning Symbian and MeeGo was idiotic. That decision put Nokia in it’s current trouble. And we can see that there was no need to do that. N9 is awesome and Symbian Belle UI is right there with Android and iOS. There’s no UI problem with Symbian anymore with Belle. So why is Flop abandoning Symbian exactly?
WP7 on the other hand is a weak OS with even weaker sales and market share. In the USA too, where even Symbian is ahead of it! So even with the old UI Symbian beats WP7 and its modern UI in the USA. Think what would happen with Symbian getting the Belle UI? It would annihilate WP7. I wonder if that’s the reason why Flop is not bringing the new Symbian phones to the US market but only WP7… Let alone N9. Smells really fishy, like Ballmer fishy.
By the time Nokia WP7 comes out, it offers nothing over Nokia’s own operating systems. Not even in the UI front that was supposed to be the big thing in WP7 over Symbian. Symbian UI is good now with Belle (IMO a lot better than WP7′s boxes and huge text UI) and the Swipe UI in N9 is the best there is. It’s truly something new and innovative. The fastest and most user friendly UI that really changes how one uses a true smartphone. One that’s properly multitasking, something that WP7 isn’t.
The decision to abandon Symbian and MeeGo for WP7 was a stupid and unnecessary decision and has cost a lot to Nokia. And will be costing. Abandoning MeeGo and Symbian only
Your vision is short. Let’s look back to 2000 when the stock was 60, and they had 30% market share in the US. Did Elop cause them to lose that lead? No, the idiots running it did. They wouldn’t even acknowledge CDMA–lol! Dumb. Or look at 2008 when the stock price was 40, and Symbian was flopping while others passed them by. The writing was on the wall. Symbian couldn’t compete. Meego was far far behind and had no ecosystem. By early 2009, the stock was $9. Elop wasn’t hired yet. Symbian was flailing in a land of advanced OS’s and being left in the dust. The stock was done. Nokia was done. All this before Elop arrived.
AFAICT the world (including the USA) > the USA. The stock price and ASP bottomed in the summer of 2010 and then was slowly but steadily climbing back. Under the previous administration, Nokia’s handset division was posting profit quarter in, quarter out, for over a decade. In the year 2010, the handset division posted $4 billion *profit*. Nokia’s credit and debt rating was very good. If that’s is being done, there was only one company surviving in the phone market, and that would be Apple.
In Q2 2011 the handset division posted a $500 million loss despite the $600 million payment. Will they post a loss or profit in Q3?
Meanwhile, the future savior of Nokia has its hands full with bada, and the “incapable to compete” Symbian, despite the public stabbing of Elop, outsold it 10 to 1.
Elop did nothing to drop Nokia more. Sure Dude, sure Dude!!
Elop wasn’t responsible for killing Qt, Meego and Symbian. So instead of improving Nokia , he decided to kill the main strengths of having and controling a home made Os.
Sure Dude sure Dude!!
Symbian is supposed to be a dead OS. There is no more Symbian device promotion at all in the US. The most recent Symbian phone in the US is Nokia Astound. It is only one phone. There are far more WP7 marketing in the US than there are Symbian. There are far more WP7 modesl available through telcos in the US than Symbian. WP7 ads are all over tech sites when accessed in the US. Nokia killed off all Symbian ads in North America. But according to http://www.slashgear.com/comscore-android-and-ios-near-70-percent-of-us-smartphone-market-share-30175188/ Microsoft marketshare lost 1%, though they lump up WM and WP7 together. The fact that if that 1% is due to Windows Mobile phase out, its even more of a loss due to the fact that they cannot retain the Windows Mobile loyal customer base. If its the combination of WP7 and WM loss then its clearly that WP7 is not retaining early adopters. BIG BIG problem for Microsoft and Nokia.
Yes finally, 5 mp only but with Autofocus
Yup. Could be worse. It could be 8MP EDoF. Or Worse still. 5MP EDoF.
I think that is the big mistake with the e6 : 8mp edof, 5 mp AF with a good sensor and lens would be preferable.
5 mp edof? ROFLOL.what makes you want the company to step backwards? from the progress i see till now, its the funniest thing one can think about nokia having to use a 5mp edof on a windows phone, their new bloodline !!!
703 is sea ray? So first phone with wp7 seems not too highend
No it is not SeaRay, though it looks like N9/SeaRay.
This supposedly has 5MP (If real) SeaRay has 8MP (confirmed) as CAMB078 just pointed out, it’s more like a SeaRay lite.
But you are right though, even with 8MP, the first batch of nwp may not be all that high end. The Nokia Stamp of higher end hardware may not appear till 2012. This is possibly just to get the food in the door with some arguably beautiful Nokia designed phones that work really fast, are very stable and do some core smartphone operations really well.
Imagining what Nokia 9XX series will have…
Looks more like ipod nano… (doesn’t have tapered edges??)
Confusion does not sell phones.
okay, than i must wait till 2012 to see nokia best phone with wp.
I hope there is an E7 version of wp7 with nokia n8′s imaging capabilities
We already know that a Nokia 800 (read: higher-end model) is undergoing testing
Almost no Windows Phone devices are going to be high-end, at least not in foreseeable future.
The only way Nokia can compete with this software that no one wants is with price. It’s fire sale time until they realize the inevitable – that is that the Elop Effect destroyed Nokia’s smartphone business for ever.
For ever.
Or it might just be because you don’t design phones that quick. It’s a 2-year process from start finish, at least. Unless you use a design that’s already ready.
So what Flop does is abandon Symbian and MeeGo, wait at least a year for new WP7 devices to arrive and during that wait he tries to sell platform that he just announced dead. Really stupid strategy if you ask me.
Why not keep Symbian and MeeGo and announce Symbian’s death AFTER you get your WP7 phones ready and selling properly? That way you can sell a platform that’s not dying but very much alive during the wait and you have backups in case WP7 is a flop.
Nokia didn’t have any smartphones before Elop. That was the problem. Dumb phones with dumb OS’s.Dumb plan. Dumb management. Now they are gone.
I don’t hate Elop, but Nokia designed and produced more types of smartphones before Elop than there are available today in the market.
Eventhough Symbian is flawed in places it is as smart as WP/iOS/Android is, probably even smarter.
symbian is indeed sarter if you ask me. nothing on the market matches the functionality of the stock symbian OS. and one can f*** apps
apps this…apps that….wellm all this apps craze is going to change in a year..just watch !
That time will come, there are just a few pieces of the puzzle that need to fall into place. HTML5 web standards and a better infrastructure from the Telco’s. One that can handle increased amounts of data that will come when people start accessing full interactive websites through their phones.
Probably another 2-3 years before a major change will happen.
The only dumb thing here is you and Elop.
+1
From Businessweek on Meego:
“In Finland, unbeknownst to Microsoft, Nokia’s bargaining power was diminishing. On Jan. 3, Chief Development Officer Kai Oistämö walked over to his boss’s tiny cubicle to share his concerns about the MeeGo software that was supposed to be Nokia’s answer to Apple and Android. The pair decided to quietly interview two dozen influential employees about MeeGo, from executives to rank-and-file engineers. Before the first interview, Elop drew out what he knew about the plans for MeeGo on a whiteboard, with a different color marker for the products being developed, their target date for introduction, and the current levels of bugs in each product. Soon the whiteboard was filled with color, and the news was not good: At its current pace, Nokia was on track to introduce only three MeeGo-driven models before 2014—far too slow to keep the company in the game. Elop tried to call Oistämö, but his phone battery was dead. “He must have been trying an Android phone that day,” says Elop. When they finally spoke late on Jan. 4, “It was truly an oh-s–t moment—and really, really painful to realize where we were,” says Oistämö. Months later, Oistämö still struggles to hold back tears. “MeeGo had been the collective hope of the company,” he says, “and we’d come to the conclusion that the emperor had no clothes. It’s not a nice thing.”
And this is someones version of what is Meego, someone who has been paid to say it that way,
Now young man look at N9 and N950 and look at the exclamation it gathered and tell me if the story above matches what you even say and read on the web and from those who have actual handset in their hands, telling us of the story you have above .
I work in a larger organization like Nokia, but not as big, a lot of line managers and big shot always and always and always try to please their Bosses. the funny thing is that they always don’t know what is running on the ground.
The mistake Elop did in the post above was to interview those line managers, he should have interviewed the engineers on the products themselves and he would have gotten a good result
Why don’t Nokia just release it as a dual boot WP7/MeeGo phone and watch it fly off the shelves?
best case scenario is they might make it easy to put Meego and wp7 on it like the HTC HD.. they wouldn’t make a dual boot phone
why would they waste rom space with the meego zombie?
As opposed to the WP 1% community?
As opposed to the .000000000001% Meego community?
To soon to tell if MeeGo will succeed. WP however have proven that it is not a success…
Where is that proof Troll?
LOL, so you’re saying that the only OS that WP7 can hope to beat is something that isn’t even released yet, has little to no marketing budget, and abandoned by its parent??
Good to know..
+1 I have always asked that question myself. If Nokia doesn’t care about Nokia why should we at the end of the day we will vote with out wallets.
What good would those useless buttons be in MeeGo, wasting the already little space from the screen. Plus, after the slick MeeGo Harmattan UI there’s no going back to the obsolete “front door concept” that Apple introduced in 2007.
At least not without grief. Lot’s of it.
The N9 also has some space underneath the screen left. It’s not like the N9 is the most space conscious phone there is. Calling the buttons a waste of space is a bit much.
+1
Also just 512 Mb RAM instead of 1Gb RAM on the Nokia N9…
you’re comparing different OSes dude. Plus, the N9 is a high-end model (read: more expensive)
There may just be two different models…The leak of a device (from the factory) had an ‘unlock’ button, as did the device that Stephen Elop showed. This device does not have that button.
So either this is a lower spec version or just a mock up. If Nokia has ordered 2 million WP devices, and if those devices came from the factory that leaked the video, maybe this is just a mock; or perhaps this is going to be a Tango device.
True. Good catch. Will update. Perhaps the button is on the left side? The lock button is quite essential.
It was the power button that was on the right side. The demo guy clearly long presses it before it switches on.
I guess this is a consumer version of searay. proto had a 8MP, end product 5MP. Like 12MP on Jessie’s Girl and 8MP on n950 dev kit.
N950 already has 12MP camera!
Available after 30 November.
Not convinced this is real. But if it is, the most important thing is that it could be available in November already!
Already? I was hoping for September, October max
. I may still get my wish… c’mon Nokia, IFA is your time to shine!
Size: 92 x 60.8 x 12.9 mm 114 g
Oops i mean 112 not 92 mm
Maybe this is a nokia wp tango phone ?
basic and cheap.
will they (nokia) ever release anything…or they are gonna simply keep on announcing…fed up with Nokia N9 not comming to my country, belle end of year, N801 Q1 2011…Anna is such a basic update which came so late but should always have been there from the start…Nokia give me something to buy today itself…
i love leaks and rumors. note how hardware wise (except for the camera) its superior to n8 but inferior to n9
It may be cheaper than 701
Nokia! Announce your Mangos immediately!!!
phone look promising but the meego vs wp7 surely true nokia fan will be at the side of meego not mango
speak for yourself dude
Although this looks not so interesting for WP lover, but no doubt Nokia is very capable to produce good hardware to suit wide price range.
I think Nokia is in hurry to introduce first WP, in order to met Elop dateline. i believe middle of 2012 we may able to see some Nokia purposely designed top dog for WP.
Whether you like or not, Top Nokia hardware will be ready for WP very soon. It is up to consumer now to take home MS Windows Phone or not, or choose other non WP from Nokia, or others. Great gamble for Nokia ahead now..
Other question is whether MS/Nokia able to code the precise engineering interface for high end Hardware in time for WP ? Nokia is historically turtle speed in software lately….
I know I won’t be buying any WP7 phone. N9 is the last phone I’m buying from Nokia. Unless there’s a successor to N8 with Symbian Belle in it, then I’m getting that too.
I won’t be buying a dead end phone like the N9. I won’t be buying any bloatware Symbian misfit phone either. Waste.
+infinity
What was said to KPS, ditto for you…
You’re firmly a MS fanboy 1st, “way before” anything else.
Almost since the announcement of the change in strategy, you’ve been a heavy “WP only” supporter.
yes I am MS fanboy, WP fanboy, Nokia fanboy
If you strongly support a “WP only” strategy in the high-end “forever”, you’re signing Nokia’s death warrant in the LT.
If Nokia truly is “WP only” in 5yrs…
It will be tiny compared to other major handset makers.
Who’ll be sucessfully juggling more than WP, + “out-hardwaring” Nokia by miles overall.
WP “if it’s lucky” will be the 3rd biggest, but still smaller than Android/iOS.
Hence you can only be a MS/WP fan, & Nokia’s LT prspect are irrelvent for you.
So long as Nokia gives WP a boost, that’s all you really care about.
Actually iOS will prolly be 3rd. Symbian(meego) + Qt easily “has a chance” to be in 2nd, possibly even BADA(derivative) or WP.
I feel you. It’s taken so freaking long now, it’s actually starting to get mighty suspicious.
If it goes into October w/only very few N9′s purchasable around the world.
Then I’ll be convinced there’s a deliberate strategy to engineer it’s demise or limit it’s success.
Given all the other things that have also happened, directly or indirectly.
woops, responded to wrong poster, my bad.
Dead-end phone?
That’s becoming more likely each month thanks to decisions made by senior personnel in the past 6mth.
But that doesn’t mean it was always inevitable, far from it, no-one will ever know.
You clearly don’t really care about Nokia’s “longer-term” prospects.
You’re not a true Nokia fan…
You’re a MS fan 1st, & Nokia fan at a distant second (if at all).
From Businessweek on Symbian:
“Most of these problems could be traced back to Symbian. Never beloved by users, it became hopelessly buggy as Nokia tried to make the 10-year-old dog pull off iPhone-like tricks. Until last month, the company hadn’t delivered a single new smartphone on time or without major software glitches since 2009, in part because of delays as scores of different hardware teams lobbied to get their pet capability—a new camera, say—built into Symbian. And while Apple and Google focus on making one operating system to power a wide variety of devices, software at Nokia had been seen as just one more “component” to enable hardware teams to craft their latest models. “The terminology shows the mindset,” says Mark Wilcox, a former Nokia engineer. “The focus was on the phone, because Nokia had this amazing factory that could crank out 100 million units a year if you got a hit.” And while Apple and Google have created software tools that help outside developers to easily create apps, Nokia’s equivalent tools gave developers fits. “Developing for Symbian,” says Artman, the former Nokian, “could make you want to slice your wrists…….By spring 2010, though, Symbian had been identified as the principal cause of Nokia’s woes”
From Businessweek on Meego:
“In Finland, unbeknownst to Microsoft, Nokia’s bargaining power was diminishing. On Jan. 3, Chief Development Officer Kai Oistämö walked over to his boss’s tiny cubicle to share his concerns about the MeeGo software that was supposed to be Nokia’s answer to Apple and Android. The pair decided to quietly interview two dozen influential employees about MeeGo, from executives to rank-and-file engineers. Before the first interview, Elop drew out what he knew about the plans for MeeGo on a whiteboard, with a different color marker for the products being developed, their target date for introduction, and the current levels of bugs in each product. Soon the whiteboard was filled with color, and the news was not good: At its current pace, Nokia was on track to introduce only three MeeGo-driven models before 2014—far too slow to keep the company in the game. Elop tried to call Oistämö, but his phone battery was dead. “He must have been trying an Android phone that day,” says Elop. When they finally spoke late on Jan. 4, “It was truly an oh-s–t moment—and really, really painful to realize where we were,” says Oistämö. Months later, Oistämö still struggles to hold back tears. “MeeGo had been the collective hope of the company,” he says, “and we’d come to the conclusion that the emperor had no clothes. It’s not a nice thing.”
You’re quoting that as your source, that article was a joke.
They’re business heads, not even the slightest clue in the dev area.
The whole claim that meego dev couldn’t be protyped quickly enough for diff hw platforms was torn to shreds by one of nokia’s own senior engineers (felipe).
By far the single-biggest reason why delivery was so late, & had fallen behind.
Was the simple fact that far too much funding/focus was on symbian & it’s deratvies for too long.
Even the merger with Intel had comparatively little impact (contrary to popular opinion).
It was very misleading for elop to use that as one of the main reasons (if he really did, like the story suggests).
There was a few other fairly good reasons, that was not one of them.
Which is why many now mistrust the guy.
That paragraph deals with the Chief Development officer’s feelings on Meego. It wasn’t Elop’s conclusion, it was the Chief Development officer’s conclusion. Blame him all you want, but it wasn’t going to deliver in time. It’s too late. When fanboys accuse Elop of killing Meego, they don’t realize it was killed long before by management missteps before Elop was anywhere close to Nokia(as you allude to). The comments on here are so biased I feel I have to comment back in a totally biased way.
That doesn’t make it authorative.
We’re not party to the full in-depth convos that took-place.
That’s merely one rag’s interpetation of what went on.
I’m yet to see the CDO actually reflecting those sentiments in his BLOG.
Even if they are his exact thoughts…
They’re totally in contrast to Felipe’s or Ari’s whole take.
The biggest factor according to them was that not enough focus was allowed on Qt/MeeGo until far too late.
Not that it was too poor to develop for, that’s an utter myth.
Fact is we’ll never know now.
I’ve never blamed Elop soley.
There’s been a whole raft of mistakes long before/after his arrival.
There’s no reason MeeGo couldn’t have been kept in the stable.
Continue to phase-out Symbian as was always planned.
Leave MeeGo for the top-end, WP for top-end & middle, S40 for bottom-end.
It’s past history now, the wind was taken out of MeeGo’s sales mths ago, there’s even whispers that Intel’s walking away.
It’s just extremely frustrating, as it could’ve been approached very differently.
At the moment WP is not attractive to me. There are many good hardware phone from other manufacturer too. Although i don’t like WP interface, i can’t denied that some people will like it. But it just not for me, i will wait and see how other consumer response to Nokia WP first.
Many other manufacturer produced very good phone too. During this poor Nokia time, why not take a look some other phone ? I understand that Samsung Galaxy S2 just been delivered to USA few day back.. i’m getting the white version soon, pre-ordered in my country.
We may still come back if Nokia WP is proven good in future… especially no significant hang problem (historically problematic for MS OS.. Heard that MS always sub-contract the programming to developing country).
I guess the 800 nokias will have 8mp with 4inch screens wvga and 1g ram and 1-1.2ghz cpu. The 900 should be 4-4.2inch with 12mp or rumoured 16mp 1gb ram and 1.2ghz dual core. I nokia announce a 900 and 900 this year at least. But i assume 800 and 900 will come out around march to july 2012
Stunning design !!!! would definitely go for this if/when released
disappointed by the camera and screen size though, 4 inch screen and 8 MP should be a minimum IMO
Still stunning device though !!!!
Not so disappointed in the screen, but the camera is underwhelming.
The screen is 16:10 rather than 16:9 so I doubt you’ll really notice the 0.2 inch less.
I don’t know about that, the Samsung Galaxy S has me convinced of a 4 inch screen if the phone is thin though, we will wait and see, all this waiting is annoying, although it still impressive if Nokia manage a Wp7 device by November considering they only announced the deal in February.
But compare this to the 701?
3.7 > 3.5 screen
5MP AF > 8MP EDoF
Those are in the 700 phone range, I don’t see what’s disapointing about that.
Everyone should take a chill pill. This is a lowend WP7 device. Notice it has specs close to other 7** series recently announced. Im sure it will be priced cheap under contract.
The highend Nokia WP7 will be 8** series which wont be announced and released until next year.
My only gripes with Nokia is the delay of N9. It is literarily PISSING ME OFF. F Nokia for making me wait. I’ve been patient enough.
Release the DAMN N9. I dont want APPS. I want SWIPE!!!!
I feel you. It’s taken so freaking long now, it’s actually starting to get mighty suspicious.
If it goes into October w/only very few N9′s purchasable around the world.
Then I’ll be convinced there’s a deliberate strategy to engineer it’s demise or limit it’s success.
Given all the other things that have also happened, directly or indirectly.
Not much to add that hasn’t already been said. My guess is that the 703 is a mid-range option to be released concurrently with the 800 or SeaRay. This handset looks very slick, and I’d get it if it turns out to be the only Nokia WP7 option out at the time of release. November is such a long time to wait though
. That would however fall in line with the thinking that Nokia’s WP7 range won’t be announced until Nokia World.
Call me crazy, but I’m still holding out faint hopes that maybe we get a WP7 announcement from Nokia at IFA in these next couple of days.
Quoting Yasu:
“Q3 2011 figures are a month and a half away, and I’m willing to bet that bada – let alone my dead platform – will still outsell the new shiny”
Noone disagrees with that, i believe it too. What’s your point?!
For the Meego fanboys, Intel just drove a stake deep in the heart of this OS
“Talk is spreading among PC vendors that Intel plans to dump “cash burning” MeeGo tablet OS, Digitimes (Chinese) reports.”
From Dan Nystedt in Taiwan
Fanboys, do you see everything in that ligt?
You can be a supporter of WP & MeeGo you do realize?
They don’t have to be mortal enemeies…
I suspect this is more to do with other form-factors.
I think we’ll actually see a renewed focus on the handset/tablet form-factor.
For which Intel has been almost totally MIA for the past 18mth.
Why do I say this?
Because they’re well overdue to finally have their shit together WRT to competitive silicon/SoC.
Most rumours have been pointing towards H1 2012.