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		<title>By: Shamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fanboys, do you see everything in that ligt?
You can be a supporter of WP &amp; MeeGo you do realize?
They don&#039;t have to be mortal enemeies...

I suspect this is more to do with other form-factors.

I think we&#039;ll actually see a renewed focus on the handset/tablet form-factor.
For which Intel has been almost totally MIA for the past 18mth.

Why do I say this? 
Because they&#039;re well overdue to finally have their shit together WRT to competitive silicon/SoC.
Most rumours have been pointing towards H1 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanboys, do you see everything in that ligt?<br />
You can be a supporter of WP &amp; MeeGo you do realize?<br />
They don&#8217;t have to be mortal enemeies&#8230;</p>
<p>I suspect this is more to do with other form-factors.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ll actually see a renewed focus on the handset/tablet form-factor.<br />
For which Intel has been almost totally MIA for the past 18mth.</p>
<p>Why do I say this?<br />
Because they&#8217;re well overdue to finally have their shit together WRT to competitive silicon/SoC.<br />
Most rumours have been pointing towards H1 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 16:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t make it authorative.
We&#039;re not party to the full in-depth convos that took-place.
That&#039;s merely one rag&#039;s interpetation of what went on.

I&#039;m yet to see the CDO actually reflecting those sentiments in his BLOG.
Even if they are his exact thoughts...
They&#039;re totally in contrast to Felipe&#039;s or Ari&#039;s whole take.

The biggest factor according to them was that not enough focus was allowed on Qt/MeeGo until far too late.
Not that it was too poor to develop for, that&#039;s an utter myth.

Fact is we&#039;ll never know now.
I&#039;ve never blamed Elop soley.
There&#039;s been a whole raft of mistakes long before/after his arrival.

There&#039;s no reason MeeGo couldn&#039;t have been kept in the stable.
Continue to phase-out Symbian as was always planned.
Leave MeeGo for the top-end, WP for top-end &amp; middle, S40 for bottom-end.

It&#039;s past history now, the wind was taken out of MeeGo&#039;s sales mths ago, there&#039;s even whispers that Intel&#039;s walking away.
It&#039;s just extremely frustrating, as it could&#039;ve been approached very differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t make it authorative.<br />
We&#8217;re not party to the full in-depth convos that took-place.<br />
That&#8217;s merely one rag&#8217;s interpetation of what went on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m yet to see the CDO actually reflecting those sentiments in his BLOG.<br />
Even if they are his exact thoughts&#8230;<br />
They&#8217;re totally in contrast to Felipe&#8217;s or Ari&#8217;s whole take.</p>
<p>The biggest factor according to them was that not enough focus was allowed on Qt/MeeGo until far too late.<br />
Not that it was too poor to develop for, that&#8217;s an utter myth.</p>
<p>Fact is we&#8217;ll never know now.<br />
I&#8217;ve never blamed Elop soley.<br />
There&#8217;s been a whole raft of mistakes long before/after his arrival.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason MeeGo couldn&#8217;t have been kept in the stable.<br />
Continue to phase-out Symbian as was always planned.<br />
Leave MeeGo for the top-end, WP for top-end &amp; middle, S40 for bottom-end.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s past history now, the wind was taken out of MeeGo&#8217;s sales mths ago, there&#8217;s even whispers that Intel&#8217;s walking away.<br />
It&#8217;s just extremely frustrating, as it could&#8217;ve been approached very differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is someones version of what is Meego, someone who has been paid to say it that way, 

Now young man look at N9 and N950 and look at the exclamation it gathered and tell me if the story above matches what you even say and read on the web and from those who have actual handset in their hands, telling us of the story you have above .

I work in a larger organization like Nokia, but not as big, a lot of line managers and big shot always and always and always try to please their Bosses. the funny thing is that they always don&#039;t know what is running on the ground.

The mistake Elop did in the post above was to interview those line managers, he should have interviewed the engineers on the products themselves and he would have gotten a good result</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is someones version of what is Meego, someone who has been paid to say it that way, </p>
<p>Now young man look at N9 and N950 and look at the exclamation it gathered and tell me if the story above matches what you even say and read on the web and from those who have actual handset in their hands, telling us of the story you have above .</p>
<p>I work in a larger organization like Nokia, but not as big, a lot of line managers and big shot always and always and always try to please their Bosses. the funny thing is that they always don&#8217;t know what is running on the ground.</p>
<p>The mistake Elop did in the post above was to interview those line managers, he should have interviewed the engineers on the products themselves and he would have gotten a good result</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you knw Micrsoft has lof the mindshare of people. It doesn&#039;t matter weather they team up with Nokia which is a strong power house. Nokia too has lost it&#039;s mindshare. So teaming up with Microsoft has enabled people to lost more interest in Nokia. I bet you in 2013 there would be Nokia Android Phones or Meego phones depending on how it turns out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you knw Micrsoft has lof the mindshare of people. It doesn&#8217;t matter weather they team up with Nokia which is a strong power house. Nokia too has lost it&#8217;s mindshare. So teaming up with Microsoft has enabled people to lost more interest in Nokia. I bet you in 2013 there would be Nokia Android Phones or Meego phones depending on how it turns out.</p>
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		<title>By: KPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the Meego fanboys, Intel just drove a stake deep in the heart of this OS

&quot;Talk is spreading among PC vendors that Intel plans to dump &quot;cash burning&quot; MeeGo tablet OS, Digitimes (Chinese) reports.&quot;

From Dan Nystedt in Taiwan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Meego fanboys, Intel just drove a stake deep in the heart of this OS</p>
<p>&#8220;Talk is spreading among PC vendors that Intel plans to dump &#8220;cash burning&#8221; MeeGo tablet OS, Digitimes (Chinese) reports.&#8221;</p>
<p>From Dan Nystedt in Taiwan</p>
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		<title>By: KPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That paragraph deals with the Chief Development officer&#039;s feelings on Meego. It wasn&#039;t Elop&#039;s conclusion, it was the Chief Development officer&#039;s conclusion. Blame him all you want, but it wasn&#039;t going to deliver in time. It&#039;s too late. When fanboys accuse Elop of killing Meego, they don&#039;t realize it was killed long before by management missteps before Elop was anywhere close to Nokia(as you allude to). The comments on here are so biased I feel I have to comment back in a totally biased way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That paragraph deals with the Chief Development officer&#8217;s feelings on Meego. It wasn&#8217;t Elop&#8217;s conclusion, it was the Chief Development officer&#8217;s conclusion. Blame him all you want, but it wasn&#8217;t going to deliver in time. It&#8217;s too late. When fanboys accuse Elop of killing Meego, they don&#8217;t realize it was killed long before by management missteps before Elop was anywhere close to Nokia(as you allude to). The comments on here are so biased I feel I have to comment back in a totally biased way.</p>
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		<title>By: KPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Businessweek on Meego:

“In Finland, unbeknownst to Microsoft, Nokia’s bargaining power was diminishing. On Jan. 3, Chief Development Officer Kai Oistämö walked over to his boss’s tiny cubicle to share his concerns about the MeeGo software that was supposed to be Nokia’s answer to Apple and Android. The pair decided to quietly interview two dozen influential employees about MeeGo, from executives to rank-and-file engineers. Before the first interview, Elop drew out what he knew about the plans for MeeGo on a whiteboard, with a different color marker for the products being developed, their target date for introduction, and the current levels of bugs in each product. Soon the whiteboard was filled with color, and the news was not good: At its current pace, Nokia was on track to introduce only three MeeGo-driven models before 2014—far too slow to keep the company in the game. Elop tried to call Oistämö, but his phone battery was dead. “He must have been trying an Android phone that day,” says Elop. When they finally spoke late on Jan. 4, “It was truly an oh-s–t moment—and really, really painful to realize where we were,” says Oistämö. Months later, Oistämö still struggles to hold back tears. “MeeGo had been the collective hope of the company,” he says, “and we’d come to the conclusion that the emperor had no clothes. It’s not a nice thing.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Businessweek on Meego:</p>
<p>“In Finland, unbeknownst to Microsoft, Nokia’s bargaining power was diminishing. On Jan. 3, Chief Development Officer Kai Oistämö walked over to his boss’s tiny cubicle to share his concerns about the MeeGo software that was supposed to be Nokia’s answer to Apple and Android. The pair decided to quietly interview two dozen influential employees about MeeGo, from executives to rank-and-file engineers. Before the first interview, Elop drew out what he knew about the plans for MeeGo on a whiteboard, with a different color marker for the products being developed, their target date for introduction, and the current levels of bugs in each product. Soon the whiteboard was filled with color, and the news was not good: At its current pace, Nokia was on track to introduce only three MeeGo-driven models before 2014—far too slow to keep the company in the game. Elop tried to call Oistämö, but his phone battery was dead. “He must have been trying an Android phone that day,” says Elop. When they finally spoke late on Jan. 4, “It was truly an oh-s–t moment—and really, really painful to realize where we were,” says Oistämö. Months later, Oistämö still struggles to hold back tears. “MeeGo had been the collective hope of the company,” he says, “and we’d come to the conclusion that the emperor had no clothes. It’s not a nice thing.”</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually iOS will prolly be 3rd. Symbian(meego) + Qt easily &quot;has a chance&quot; to be in 2nd, possibly even BADA(derivative) or WP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually iOS will prolly be 3rd. Symbian(meego) + Qt easily &#8220;has a chance&#8221; to be in 2nd, possibly even BADA(derivative) or WP.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you strongly support a &quot;WP only&quot; strategy in the high-end &quot;forever&quot;, you&#039;re signing Nokia&#039;s death warrant in the LT.

If Nokia truly is &quot;WP only&quot; in 5yrs...
It will be tiny compared to other major handset makers. 
Who&#039;ll be sucessfully juggling more than WP, + &quot;out-hardwaring&quot; Nokia by miles overall. 

WP &quot;if it&#039;s lucky&quot; will be the 3rd biggest, but still smaller than Android/iOS.

Hence you can only be a MS/WP fan, &amp; Nokia&#039;s LT prspect are irrelvent for you. 
So long as Nokia gives WP a boost, that&#039;s all you really care about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you strongly support a &#8220;WP only&#8221; strategy in the high-end &#8220;forever&#8221;, you&#8217;re signing Nokia&#8217;s death warrant in the LT.</p>
<p>If Nokia truly is &#8220;WP only&#8221; in 5yrs&#8230;<br />
It will be tiny compared to other major handset makers.<br />
Who&#8217;ll be sucessfully juggling more than WP, + &#8220;out-hardwaring&#8221; Nokia by miles overall. </p>
<p>WP &#8220;if it&#8217;s lucky&#8221; will be the 3rd biggest, but still smaller than Android/iOS.</p>
<p>Hence you can only be a MS/WP fan, &amp; Nokia&#8217;s LT prspect are irrelvent for you.<br />
So long as Nokia gives WP a boost, that&#8217;s all you really care about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re quoting that as your source, that article was a joke. 
They&#039;re business heads, not even the slightest clue in the dev area.

The whole claim that meego dev couldn&#039;t be protyped quickly enough for diff hw platforms was torn to shreds by one of nokia&#039;s own senior engineers (felipe).

By far the single-biggest reason why delivery was so late, &amp; had fallen behind. 
Was the simple fact that far too much funding/focus was on symbian &amp; it&#039;s deratvies for too long.
Even the merger with Intel had comparatively little impact (contrary to popular opinion).

It was very misleading for elop to use that as one of the main reasons (if he really did, like the story suggests).

There was a few other fairly good reasons, that was not one of them.
Which is why many now mistrust the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re quoting that as your source, that article was a joke.<br />
They&#8217;re business heads, not even the slightest clue in the dev area.</p>
<p>The whole claim that meego dev couldn&#8217;t be protyped quickly enough for diff hw platforms was torn to shreds by one of nokia&#8217;s own senior engineers (felipe).</p>
<p>By far the single-biggest reason why delivery was so late, &amp; had fallen behind.<br />
Was the simple fact that far too much funding/focus was on symbian &amp; it&#8217;s deratvies for too long.<br />
Even the merger with Intel had comparatively little impact (contrary to popular opinion).</p>
<p>It was very misleading for elop to use that as one of the main reasons (if he really did, like the story suggests).</p>
<p>There was a few other fairly good reasons, that was not one of them.<br />
Which is why many now mistrust the guy.</p>
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