Nokia N9 successor on roadmap?
Very quickly again (I’m simultaneously getting dressed to leave as well as blogging).
There’s rumours of a Nokia N9 successor? A couple of days ago, jipee tipped us that a Finnish blogger mentions something about a N9 successor on the roadmaps. So N9 is really not the last? What with all N9 reviewers praising the N9 and mourning it’s apparent lack of future, hopefully there’s a happy ending for it with the possibility of a continuation at Nokia?
In the Finnish IT magazine Tietokone (Computer) blogger Tero Lehto (Apple fan) reviews the N9 and hints that there could be a N9 successor:
“Toisaalta olen yllättäen kuullut jo kahdenkin läheltä Nokiaa seuraavan operaattori- ja tukkuri-ihmisen väitteen, että Nokia N9:n seuraaja eli uusikin MeeGo-laite voisi olla vielä Nokian roadmapissa. En tiedä, mistä käsitys on syntynyt, joten suhtaudun siihen varauksella.”
“On the other hand I have to my suprise heard claims by two sources closely working with Nokia at an operator and a wholesaler, that there is a N9 successor in the Nokia roadmap. I dont know, what is the source of this perception, therefore I am sceptical about it”
http://blogit.tietokone.fi/tietojakoneesta/2011/10/nokia-n9-upea-laite-mutta-riittaako-sekaan/Nokia’s communication manager confirms that there has been problems related to the exchange sync and Nokia is bringing an update to fix it.
http://www.tietokone.fi/uutiset/nokia_n9_lle_paivitys_exchange_ongelmiinhttp://www.tietokone.fi/uutiset/nokia_n9_lle_paivitys_exchange_ongelmiin
Another source comments of Tero Lehto (cheers StefanP). They note whilst MeeGo might be dead (or folded into Tizen) Maemo is not (oh heck what was the point of it all, huh? They should have just stuck with Maemo all along, darn seductive Intel partnership.
http://www.telekom-presse.at/Geruecht_Weiteres_MeeGo_Smartphone_von_Nokia.id.17392.htm
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- Szilárd-Erwin Szogyényi | October 27, 2011
Maemo not dead? Yay!
Legends never die!
The soul still burns…
Get ready for the next battle!
will love to have swipe ui on my phone no matter what platform it is at!
swipe is so cool and apple will not design a better than swipe ui, unless they copy it
ur pe**s
Wow!!! Nice update, if true, Nokia wanna make me dance
Intel has always been the last resort before greatness and reinventions happen , look at Apple keynote speech in 1997 then the one on 1998 where they demoed a better processor than Intel’s top notch one (G3 i guess) mocking how slow they are …
Its funny to say that on 1997 Apple partnered with Microsoft !!! (So Cutting Intel , Partnering (for short period) with Microsoft might be the revival of Nokia.
Intel never cared about Meego.. They only wanted to fubd a way to sell more I’d their crappy chipsets … How much did they contribute to meego anyway? MS gave Nokia 20million to advertise wp7 , they gave them another 1 billon to make wp7 devices.. How much did Intel give to Nokia with Meego?
As an n810 owner, when I first heard about Nokia ‘s maemo was merging with Intel’s Moblin, my first reaction was “what the hell were they thinking?!”
That was my thought as well. I think had that not happened, Maemo 6 would have been ready quite a bit earlier (who knows about the N9 hardware though, it looks like they were planning on the N950 and it got rejected by carriers due to hinge problems), and the Microsoft deal may have not been necessary.
As much I hope ıts true, seems very unlikely.. Then again, the Nokia 710 profile we saw mentioned Internet Table 2008 as the OS.. So at best, they might therefore release a cheaper version of the N9.
BTW!! That would be in no contradiction to what Elop has said. As far as I know, he has always referred to the N9 as the only Meego related device for 2011 and that there is no return to Meego as the main smartphone OS for Nokia (the latter statement was not a dırect quote from hım but what the Fınnısh journalıst wrote ın hıs story.. so could very ınaccurate anyway). That would ın theory leave an openıng for somethıng ın 2012. :p
But, would not get my hopes up.
Another experimental device that will leave its users high and dry. Nokia can only start a project but not finish it. Samsung now has become the new Nokia. Bye Nokia.
Google is now the new Microsoft and Samsung is the new Nokia.
Korea is the new Japan, Finland is the Japan of Europe, Poland is the Mexico of Europe and Brazil is the new USA.
lol
Where’s Japan now? Only Sony Playstation and Nintendo keeping them in the game. All the electronics company’s are demoted to mid-tier companies as they are overtaken by Samsung.
Does that mean Harmattan (Nokia stresses on this word more than MeeGo and Maemo) is going to live on?? I would welcome more Harmattan based devices in future (Hopefully one in a E7 or N950 chassis)..
One reason why I feel Nokia will like to invest in Harmattan is because of Qt. Nokia stressing N9 as a Qt flagship does make sense because Nokia would like to show the power of Qt in mobile domain..
+1
well we’ve already heard about Meletmi so it only seems to stand to reason that we’ll see more Maemo in the future. However as with the past they’ll probably be few and far between
I only need 1 good device per year, the rest of the world can be happy with winphone if they want.
But the possibility of evolving maemo/harmattan/meltemi without pushing a meego (intel collaboration) device would be there – and it wouldn´t contradict Elop´s statement concerning the N9 and Meego.
Meltemi will for low- and mid-end devices..
But they’ll always need a flagship device at least one every year or 18months like a halo model… WP won’t fit that bill unless MS allows Qt to be ported to WP(not a chance in my opinion). And with Symbian being out-phased from Qt5 (this seems to be the opinions from Qt dev days conference), Harmattan seems to be the ideal choice for it (as it has been relegated to “future disruptions”)..
It´s also to consider that the budget of the “future disruptions” inside Nokia is not small if you compare it to other companies´budgets…so they certainly could develop, produce and maintain another harmattan devices…
Not exactly Harmattan, but Linux with wind names will. That’s what people were talking about with Meltemi. I think a direct N9 successor is unlikely, but a mid-low end phone based on the same code base is.
Harmattan is not going to live on. Harmattan is going to evolve, just lika diablo, fremantle and the rest of the maemo line of software. The next target is Meltemi and from what I’ve heard so far it will not be the highest-end of smartphones but will go for lower mid-range.
Lower price point. Better software. Can it get better?
thats makes sense. even Elop never claims that Maemo is dead.
My wild guess, that Nokia drop meego couse its swipe ui was not open source and Nokia dont wonna share its with Intel
My wild guess is that nokia pitched in with a much larger chunk of manpower and code for the smarthphone “meego” and didn’t get enough back to motivate a furter relation. Also, meego came with forced changes not welcome in the maemo line of products, such as an RPM based distribution instead of DEB, which is quite a big deal for whose who care.
To be honest, Meego Harmattan Maemo 1.2 is Maemo 6 Harmattan. As you can see, even after the release of N9, “Meego” is still not ready …. So, Nokia has emerged Maemo 6, are grafted some Meego 1.2 API and change the user interface ….. Shown in the format of the applications that are .deb (Maemo package manager) and not .rpm (package manager selected for Meego). Nokia Meego favorite used as a trade name (according to the contract with Intel, he was supposed to leave at least one device on Meego ….) but the Maemo 6 …. He would continue to develop the Maemo instead of going to see Intel trying to create Meego but hey, we will not repeat the past …..
why didnt nokia clearly say that they will or will not make n9 successor? i just want to know the yes or no,
if no, bye nokia
if yews, you have my respect
If they did that too early, no one would buy the n9, no?
No one would buy it since the supply and markets where it’s released are limited..
The software will evolve and come to more phones. The N9 will however not get a direct successor in the high-end smartphone spectrum.
Make one with the damn keyboard + N8′s camera and put it on to regular shops. I will take 3 of them like I did with the N8.
Sure, 3 purchases are going to keep Nokia afloat… relying on fanboys who would buy multiple Nokia handsets is what got them in so much trouble in the first place.
Wtf…. Relying on that stupid Board of Directors was and is the reason of Nokia’s troubles.
desperate n9 with qwerty, e7-like or e6-like i dont care, just need qwerty
I think there is, RM-716
I found a file on my N9 saying maemo-rm-716 along with rm696 anf 680, the n9 and n950
Nokia allways said that the Swipe interface will live on and there were rumours about Meltemi. And of course all the future desruption talk.
However I wouldn’t be surprised if the Nokia 800 is considered beeing the n9 successor.
The N9 is considered the successor to the N8, after all. When it should be the successor of the n900.
As long as it’s a Harmattan/Swipe UI/Qt/Linux based device..
and can they make it as beautiful as the N9?
……WOW…IF..if this is true…then this is bloody fantastic news!!
What people need to remember is what people say and what they end up doing are two COMPLETELY different things.
I know its far stretched but I would not be too surprised to see a N9 successor. In the long term Nokia will have to adopt their own platform anyway, because OEM’s are limited in the amount of money they make.
Plus I am sure Nokia have been monitoring the feedback from reviews otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered shipping devices to the likes of Engadget, Verge and all that lot.
All I am saying is I wouldn’t rule anything out, the world is unpredictable.
Not to mention that the bastards keep sending them out for review polluting my news-feed with nothing but reviews when I want news..
Probably best decision they ever made, and pretty much all reviews are highly positive, but I’m getting bored at reading stuff like “best phone ever, except it’s dead on arrival”, “Glouries phone, except no apps”, “Powerful and beauty, but no future”.
You forget that the MS mole is already deep in.
Love this news!
you do know that these are just speculations and may not be true~ Would be so damn cool if it were though.
Watch out guys, Naughty Nokia is back again
It is really simple. If the make WP phones only they will lose a lot of customers. If they provide good Symbian and Maemo/ meeGo phones they loose fewer. Nokias call!
If this is true I would not be surprised by this at all. Think about it, the N9 is getting ridiculous great reviews and positive feedback from everyone. Nokia wants to make money and would be stupid to not want to repeat a positive reinforcement. Elop can say that the N9 and Meego is no more all he wants, but the people above which are the board of directors will come down pressuring him to make another Meego because Nokia wants to make money.
Elop is a douche and is a Nokia CEO that is only more concerned about Microsoft than the Nokia company itself. I’m surprised nobody in the board of directors tried firing him about his biases for Microsoft. I don’t have a problem with Nokia going the WP7 route because I myself think that WP7 has major potential. But it would be better if Elop supported all 3 platforms of Symbian, Meego, and WP7 all at the same time. He is incompetent and way over his head. I hope he resigns or gets fired before 2016 of the end of symbian because it still has major potential.
Lots of strong words and no good motivation for them.
They will support all three platforms, symbian will stay until 2016, wp7 will be introduced by christmas or so and the Maemo line will stay as their future disruptions.
Given the whole Nokia “we’re not developing a linux replacement to S40, oh wait yes we are” and the whole Intel “we’re going to continue to develop MeeGo, no wait we’re not we’ve jumped into bed with Samsung and now it’s Tizen”, I’m sceptical.
If there was an N9 successor, I bet it will continue to be select markets only. I wonder if this is because Nokia knows that in certain markets Windows Phone is just too hard of a sell, so this is their plan B.
I’d be happy if this is true though because many developers will need this reassurance to get to work.
It’s not Windows Phone that’ll be the hard sell, it’ll be Nokia’s home grown OS (whatever it’s called). The US is leading smartphone innovation now, it’s not the backwards country it used to be when Nokia was on top.
YEAH!
this only makes sense now… somewhere on nokia conversations, they asked the readers to send them ways to improve on the n9 and submit it to ideasproject.com/n9 here is the link: conversations.nokia.com/2011/10/24/could-you-make-a-better-nokia-n9/ nokia is seriously changing here
I think it’s genius marketing trick to tell “it’s last one” buy it. Then still make another one next year.
They tried to make the deal with Microsoft for couple of devices, but Microsoft wanted to drop symbian at least.