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	<title>Comments on: Awards for Nokia CEO, Stephen Elop and Windows Phone (OS of the year)</title>
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		<title>By: Rakib Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rakib Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nokia OS (NOS) is an informal name for the operating system in many Nokia mobile phones. These are informal names, there is no such product or trademark, though the term &quot;Nokia OS&quot; is used in official Nokia communications.[1] Officially it is referred as ISA (Intelligent System Architecture) platform. It is a proprietary platform for Nokia&#039;s internal use only. It is licensed to no one else. No direct application programming interface (API) is provided, but most ISA phones can be programmed with Java Platform, Micro Edition (Java ME). It is sometimes called the &quot;domestic OS&quot;.http://www.nokiawp.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia OS (NOS) is an informal name for the operating system in many Nokia mobile phones. These are informal names, there is no such product or trademark, though the term &#8220;Nokia OS&#8221; is used in official Nokia communications.[1] Officially it is referred as ISA (Intelligent System Architecture) platform. It is a proprietary platform for Nokia&#8217;s internal use only. It is licensed to no one else. No direct application programming interface (API) is provided, but most ISA phones can be programmed with Java Platform, Micro Edition (Java ME). It is sometimes called the &#8220;domestic OS&#8221;.<a href="http://www.nokiawp.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nokiawp.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Boyang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1000</description>
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		<title>By: ajaikumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajaikumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elop selection of wp is right choice at this situation ... If more meego phone lanched nokia not able to capture market.... So future of nokias  meego base that time evey one will accept it an good product... Eventhough now they accept due to andriod domination meego can be failure.... Elop u save my nokia......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elop selection of wp is right choice at this situation &#8230; If more meego phone lanched nokia not able to capture market&#8230;. So future of nokias  meego base that time evey one will accept it an good product&#8230; Eventhough now they accept due to andriod domination meego can be failure&#8230;. Elop u save my nokia&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BellGo</title>
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		<dc:creator>BellGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t go out of the blue trashing on Symbian.&quot;

FYI yes you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t go out of the blue trashing on Symbian.&#8221;</p>
<p>FYI yes you do.</p>
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		<title>By: yasu</title>
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		<dc:creator>yasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 07:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ah technical reasons.&quot; 

You said that Symbian could not evolve pas N95 form factors, there must be a technical reason why.

&quot;You sound like one of those guys that made the n97, technically very nice but as a real device it just sucked.

It was? I remember it being panned for using a tiny RAM and weak processor when it was announced.

&quot;I’ll humour you with some of my Symbian touchscreen experience then both v5 and s3. V5 sucked because of the lack of multitouch and resitive screen tech.&quot;

Symbian cannot transform a resistive screen in capacitive screen, sorry. 

&quot;Email performance sucked, was great on v3 but sucked in all versions following it. Nokia’s obsession with removing features with nearly every release of new software.&quot;

Nokia&#039;s obsession (that personally pisses me off too).

&quot;It isn’t about technical reasons. Would Symbian fly with GHz hardware and big ram? Maybe, what is the reason Nokia never pushed it beyond the age old arm11? Unnecessary because of power needs?&quot;

You&#039;ll have to ask Nokia. I believe that laziness and obsession with economies of scale were behind the motives.

&quot;Id love to type more but mobile keyboards, even WPs excellent one, aren’t ideal for longer texts.&quot;

I don&#039;t see how your bad experiences validate the fact that touchslabs aren&#039;t Symbian territory and that it should be reserved to n95 form factors. The latest incarnation seems to be quite good actually.

Just because I think that WP7 is awfully limited don&#039;t give me the license to post emphatically that it&#039;s an inadequate OS and MS should stick to desktop and server stuff.

It&#039;s not to my taste, so what? I just don&#039;t use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ah technical reasons.&#8221; </p>
<p>You said that Symbian could not evolve pas N95 form factors, there must be a technical reason why.</p>
<p>&#8220;You sound like one of those guys that made the n97, technically very nice but as a real device it just sucked.</p>
<p>It was? I remember it being panned for using a tiny RAM and weak processor when it was announced.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ll humour you with some of my Symbian touchscreen experience then both v5 and s3. V5 sucked because of the lack of multitouch and resitive screen tech.&#8221;</p>
<p>Symbian cannot transform a resistive screen in capacitive screen, sorry. </p>
<p>&#8220;Email performance sucked, was great on v3 but sucked in all versions following it. Nokia’s obsession with removing features with nearly every release of new software.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nokia&#8217;s obsession (that personally pisses me off too).</p>
<p>&#8220;It isn’t about technical reasons. Would Symbian fly with GHz hardware and big ram? Maybe, what is the reason Nokia never pushed it beyond the age old arm11? Unnecessary because of power needs?&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to ask Nokia. I believe that laziness and obsession with economies of scale were behind the motives.</p>
<p>&#8220;Id love to type more but mobile keyboards, even WPs excellent one, aren’t ideal for longer texts.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how your bad experiences validate the fact that touchslabs aren&#8217;t Symbian territory and that it should be reserved to n95 form factors. The latest incarnation seems to be quite good actually.</p>
<p>Just because I think that WP7 is awfully limited don&#8217;t give me the license to post emphatically that it&#8217;s an inadequate OS and MS should stick to desktop and server stuff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not to my taste, so what? I just don&#8217;t use it.</p>
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		<title>By: kan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It creates a wonderful narrative when you describe Elop as a trojan horse, a destroyer of tradition, value etc. There maybe elements of truth in this but we need some perspective.

Under the guidance of OPK and the CEO before him Nokia since 2000 was quite capable of shooting itself in its foot without anyones help. Look at the history of failed projects and power struggles within Nokia and you realise Nokia was heading for a fall before Elop came onboard. This is not justifying Elop decisions its just putting into perspective what was going on at Nokia. 

However Elop &quot;Burning Platforms&quot; memo was the most ill advised declarations by a business leader. In one fell swoop he not only marginalised and destroyed the viability of Nokia best selling smartphone o/s. He put it on life support to terminate it by 2016. 

At the end of 2010 Nokia had a 37.6% of the smartphone market. Post Elop memo in february by the end of September 2011 Nokia had 16.9% of the market. Check gartner for the figures.

Now I am not arguing that Symbian did not needed to be replaced but I am saying the method implemented by Elop was idiotic. It simply meant that Symbian was a dead man walking platform. I don&#039;t have many issues of Nokia selecting WP as a platform but I do have issues with Elop marginalising and destroying any viable alternative to Wp which Nokia would invest heavily in and develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It creates a wonderful narrative when you describe Elop as a trojan horse, a destroyer of tradition, value etc. There maybe elements of truth in this but we need some perspective.</p>
<p>Under the guidance of OPK and the CEO before him Nokia since 2000 was quite capable of shooting itself in its foot without anyones help. Look at the history of failed projects and power struggles within Nokia and you realise Nokia was heading for a fall before Elop came onboard. This is not justifying Elop decisions its just putting into perspective what was going on at Nokia. </p>
<p>However Elop &#8220;Burning Platforms&#8221; memo was the most ill advised declarations by a business leader. In one fell swoop he not only marginalised and destroyed the viability of Nokia best selling smartphone o/s. He put it on life support to terminate it by 2016. </p>
<p>At the end of 2010 Nokia had a 37.6% of the smartphone market. Post Elop memo in february by the end of September 2011 Nokia had 16.9% of the market. Check gartner for the figures.</p>
<p>Now I am not arguing that Symbian did not needed to be replaced but I am saying the method implemented by Elop was idiotic. It simply meant that Symbian was a dead man walking platform. I don&#8217;t have many issues of Nokia selecting WP as a platform but I do have issues with Elop marginalising and destroying any viable alternative to Wp which Nokia would invest heavily in and develop.</p>
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		<title>By: Harangue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harangue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah technical reasons. You sound like one of those guys that made the n97, technically very nice but as a real device it just sucked. 

I&#039;ll humour you with some of my Symbian touchscreen experience then both v5 and s3. V5 sucked because of the lack of multitouch and resitive screen tech. 

Email performance sucked, was great on v3 but sucked in all versions following it. Nokia&#039;s obsession with removing features with nearly every release of new software.

It isn&#039;t about technical reasons. Would Symbian fly with GHz hardware and big ram? Maybe, what is the reason Nokia never pushed it beyond the age old arm11? Unnecessary because of power needs? 

Id love to type more but mobile keyboards, even WPs excellent one, aren&#039;t ideal for longer texts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah technical reasons. You sound like one of those guys that made the n97, technically very nice but as a real device it just sucked. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll humour you with some of my Symbian touchscreen experience then both v5 and s3. V5 sucked because of the lack of multitouch and resitive screen tech. </p>
<p>Email performance sucked, was great on v3 but sucked in all versions following it. Nokia&#8217;s obsession with removing features with nearly every release of new software.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t about technical reasons. Would Symbian fly with GHz hardware and big ram? Maybe, what is the reason Nokia never pushed it beyond the age old arm11? Unnecessary because of power needs? </p>
<p>Id love to type more but mobile keyboards, even WPs excellent one, aren&#8217;t ideal for longer texts.</p>
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		<title>By: Harangue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harangue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did he throw away of the glorious history? It is still there, they are famous for radio quality, build quality and robustness which in my book is still there.

If you mean software, Nokis isn&#039;t good at it. Symbian wasn&#039;t there own they just bullied there way through to become owner of something that someone else built. No shame in that at all, but is that really a great history?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did he throw away of the glorious history? It is still there, they are famous for radio quality, build quality and robustness which in my book is still there.</p>
<p>If you mean software, Nokis isn&#8217;t good at it. Symbian wasn&#8217;t there own they just bullied there way through to become owner of something that someone else built. No shame in that at all, but is that really a great history?</p>
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		<title>By: yasu</title>
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		<dc:creator>yasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Symbian can be really good, but as long as it stays on form factors like the n95 for example. Touchscreen slabs aren’t its territory.&quot;

Technical reason for that limitation  please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Symbian can be really good, but as long as it stays on form factors like the n95 for example. Touchscreen slabs aren’t its territory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Technical reason for that limitation  please.</p>
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		<title>By: Harangue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harangue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Symbian being a good OS, back in the s60v3 days, yes. Without a doubt. As long as Symbian stayed on non touch phones it was king. Loved it in that way, as soon as I tried v5 the love died.

Symbian 3 was able to compensate the damage done by v5 but some annoyences from it were still present even in Anna today. Symbian can be really good, but as long as it stays on form factors like the n95 for example. Touchscreen slabs aren&#039;t its territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Symbian being a good OS, back in the s60v3 days, yes. Without a doubt. As long as Symbian stayed on non touch phones it was king. Loved it in that way, as soon as I tried v5 the love died.</p>
<p>Symbian 3 was able to compensate the damage done by v5 but some annoyences from it were still present even in Anna today. Symbian can be really good, but as long as it stays on form factors like the n95 for example. Touchscreen slabs aren&#8217;t its territory.</p>
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