Video: 23 minutes comparing Nokia N9 and Nokia Lumia 800 (MeeGo Harmattan vs Windows Phone 7.5 Mango)
@jenjaman tweeted us his video, 23 minutes of Nokia N9 comparison with the Nokia Lumia 800. This might be familiar as this was filmed a while ago in Russian. Now it’s in English (Though I can’t seem to find our last post on it, or the video either)
Anyway, here’s the English version. He’s done a very excellent job again. It’s pretty fair on both sides, with preferences changing as each does certain things ‘better’ than the other. As a note, the one that is ‘best’ is the one that is ‘best for you’. Which ever one suits your needs better, it’s not something set in stone.
- Look at the menu. App grid vs tiles (and list)
- Notification pages vs people hub
- Dialler
- Nokia Store vs Market Place
- Music Player vs Zune
- Maps
- Documents vs Office
- Screen brightness
- Multitasking vs ‘multitasking’
Video by TheUltimat111
Category: Maemo, MeeGo, Nokia, Nseries, Video, Windows Phone
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hey jay, just want to say thank you for all the good read. i learned about your blod when n9 was released, now im waiting for lumia XD thanks jay!
Thanks
Why not the N9, is it not coming to your country?
i have tried my hand on lumia, nothing impressed me!
Well, I’ve tried N9, and aside from multitasking, nothing that trumps WP.
How about the battery life?
And the open architecture?
And the better screen resoultion?
And Front facing camera?
And NFC support?
OS Heritage (Unix vs. Windows)?
Battery life reports have been inconsistent on both platforms, so that’s a watch.
Open architecture isn’t an advantage.
Screen resolution isn’t any better, pixel density is different, and you’ve just got 16:9 vs 16:10. Only an idiot would suggest one is better than the other.
FFC is a feature only a few people would use, it’s a straw man argument.
NFC is nice, but hasn’t been standardised yet. Who knows how useful the N9′s NFC will be in the future.
OS Heritage isn’t relevant, again, only an idiot claims the heritage is an advantage.
Sounds like someone’s reaching big time to try and make the two devices seem equal
. It’s not a slam dunk, but let’s not kid ourselves… the N9 is superior.
No, it’s not. It’s all about the apps. It has been before there were devices you could put in your pocket. The Lumia 800 is the superior device.
I siaid WP, not Lumia 800 as it doesn’t appear in my country just yet. But comparing it to other WP phones, battery life is good, even fantastic in Samsung phones.
I don’t have any eye strain in reading novels in WP, so the screen resolution is not really a problem with me. No one use NFC in my country. Even though some of my friends have Android phones.
Nokia WP don’t have front facing camera. But other phones (Titan, Radar, Focus S, Focus Flash, LG) does. Note that I said ‘WP’. Not Lumia.
OS heritage? Does that really matter except for a select market (computer geeks?)? I don’t know what I do with that, frankly.
If you have a buttload of apps, WP manage that better. If you want some content always on display, WP manage that better. Some apps even take advantage of this. You can pin a specific evernote note for quick access, you can pin a video/music/documents/weather that you have to the start screen. You can make a people group. You have more apps as WP now attracts developer. You have integrated messaging. Now you can integrate someone’s facebook, twitter, and linkedin profile to their profile on the people hub. All that stuff.
i am sure you did….. NOT
Will this post be a comment section war, or won’t it? At least some flames would be thrown around a bit, obviously.
I would love to get my hands on the n9
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Thank you very much, Jay! You made all this text around my video, so unbelievably quick
I hope my accent is legible for you folks out there
Thanks for the video.
I didn’t want to type up the commentary as saying x is better or preferred in a post often causes folks to get necessarily angry – so just left it for them to watch and tried to point out that what’s best is what’s best for them
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N9 is better!
A solution for all Nokia fans would be windows phone with swipe gesture all over. I hope Nokia have patent in this area otherwise Apple would come and start saying how magical/amazing/exceptional their UI is.
please Nokia don’t invent something and then pass it the others. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
why not share with others for free?
nokia is known for being kind to all companies especially mirco$oft.
mirco$oft – wow that’s a new one – welcome to 1980
Go troll elsewhere
Not really, at least not for all Nokia fans. I have far less of a problem with WP7′s Tetrisy UI and its boresome transitions, then with what it stands for and how it’s organized. I’m not particularly fond of the Swipe UI of Harmattan as well. I’d chose Maemo 5′s (Fremantle) UI with some refinement over those two any day.
I certainly don’t chose my OSes based on their looks, but on what they can do for me, what can I do to them, how much they restrict me and do they allow me to actually own my device or should I beg the manufacturer to allow me to do whatever I want with the device I paid for. And when you get down to that level WP7 is pretty much no-show, even the iOS is better at that department – at least it gives you native execution, and with a couple of exceptions, unrestricted HW access. Maemo/MeeGo barely cuts it, but unfortunately there is nothing better than it out there. YMMV.
yup yup, hildon desktop is the best for some
Sorry, no american spyware, locked in OS for me!
Thank you for tossing “american” in there.
FYI, our US senator Al Franken has begun formally investigating.
He should begin “investigating” that suspicious Nokia WP transition deal, too. Would be interesting to see what kind of skeletons are hidden in that closet.
How about all that spyware coming out of China and Russia?
It was also an american kid who uncovered it, and the EFF who stuck up for him
Hopefully the investigation will include the carriers as they are responsible for whats installed on carrier branded phones. The point is that big business can get away with more consumer unfriendly practices in the US than in most European countries. Re. the “american” part of the comment: one should always credit the right party.:-)
Since it was on the iphone, I hope to see some european counterparts also investigating.
plus all the missing features from Symbian. Add in less dependent on Zune software.
WTF??? 6:40 first photo in N9
nice catch lol
What makes that photo much more disturbing is that right after it there are photos of children playgrounds…
Lol eagle eyes…..nice advertisement of his tiny little dic* by video uploader
Hahahaha WTF!!!
Cannot unsee. Thanks for that
Both are awesome, but prefer the 800.
Let’s not start an OS war. Meego harmattan on N9 with swipe is a full blown OS built around 3 paradigms. It should never be compared because it’s a matter of user preference.
Windows phone 7 on the other hand is built as a metro OS with continuity into other parts of the OS. This style helps disguise the layers that we dig through to get to different functions in the phone.
I like both N9 and Lumia 800. I will end up buying the high end one that is coming to U.S as long as Nokia puts the pentaband chip and put at least a four inch screen.
It’s possible to like two OS’s for different reasons.
+1. I agree. Both of these OS’s are very appealing to me. When the Lilia comes to the US I’ll pick one up.
I meant Lumia.
They’re both appealing & yet you’re not getting both?
N9 can be had for respectable $ (not amazing) now, even in NA.
“If” you’re really making an effort to search.
What are you going on about? Why the fuck would I want 2 phones? Who can afford that? Why the fuck do you care? And finally, the Lumia will be subsidized and the N9 won’t be in the US. I also happen to like WP interface slightly better.
Woah….
Easy there tiger, no need to bite my head off.
I have two phones I actively use: 1 personal, & 1 work.
Many, many, people do, I figured you’d be the same, being a tech enthusiast.
Merely pointing out if you do some solid searching, there’s been some good deals lately.
You heard of them? I can point some out to you otherwise.
Then again sounds like you can only get one.
And given phones are heavily tied into carrier arrangements over there.
I can understand why you’d chose that over an outright.
It’s different in my part of the world.
It often makes way more sense to buy outright.
Sorry. I thought you were accusing me of something. My apologies. The US is a monopolistic mess. All the politicians constantly talk about fostering business, but all they care about is giving these businesses everything they want so they’ll “donate” and endorse their re elections.
It’s really difficult to go unsubsidized in the US. Getting unlocked phones is expensive, and they don’t utilize the network’s hspa+/lte network. If the N9 was carrier subsidized, i’d probably pick it up. But WP has far better support here inthe US. Also, I like the interface of WP a little more than the N9. Personal preference.
Apology accepted, that blows mate.
We can buy phones w/o fear of certain core hw features being left out. Simply because we opted to buy outright, instead of on contract.
It often works out to be way better value too.
Cheers.
Currently i’m using N9. From the above comparison, i still felt that N9′OS is miles ahead WP Mango.
N9′s OS Harmattan is very simple, easy to use, straight to the point and very addictive to use.
WP Mango is new to many people and is confusing with multi-layer user interface (ie many click to get result), looks oversize font size with purposely unfinished display edge, very much less information per screen compared to Harmattan, a lot waste of screen’s space, transition animation looks aged. Off course it is very fast since N800 using 1.4GHz CPU !
Furthermore, many people using WP including Jay keep saying live tiles is very good, but i’m in the opinion that it is useless as compared to live feed in N9 ! (Jay, please get N9 immediately and try it and use it, please ! No offense for your preference on WP but hope you give it a try.). Many people/blog keep saying how fast the scroll in WP, but in reality do you really need very high scroll speed in real usage ? i doubt that. I always think that optimum scroll speed inline with real usage is the answer.
After 1 1/2 month using N9 64GB, i’m quite satisfy with it. The OS very stable. N9 application is fast increasing every day in store. Some very useful program start to came out lately. Not to under estimate of WP, but i think N9/Meego Harmattan at the moment will be technically and physically superior as compared to WP. I really hope this OS will be continuously developed by Nokia, it has very bright future, the fundamental concept is a Golden Egg.
Harmattan (OS of Nokia N9) will be even better with next update, and much more better with a later update, stay tuned
When is the current update going to hit? A lot of us are still waiting.
If you encounter any bug in Nokia N9 OS, you can submit it to the developer team in this link: https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com
what if i have a feature request for n9 developers team?where do i need to turn to?
you can select “enhancement” instead “Major/Normal/Minor bug”
What he said….
But make sure the report is very clear & your case is very solid.
That increases the chances of others voting on it, + Nokia understanding what you want, & agreeing.
thats true the swipe ui is addictive. after using the n9 you try to use every phone in that way…
i will say it is natural gesture
Yup. Anytime you replace button finding with a gesture you will naturally just try to use that gesture.
I’ll buy the White N9 64GB, it’s awesome, I used the N9 black for few days and I can say: Nokia N9 is the best smartphone made by humans until now
i like white but hate the glossy surface
i have to sacrifice 64g for matte cyan or magenta n9
you can find a Cyan/Magenta N9 with 64GB
The black is matte & available in 64GB.
Cyan & Magenta are only available in 16GB
But you should look at the white & black side-by-side before deciding which one you prefer.
That’s what I’m going to do…
“If” the freaking unicorn white N9 ever appears locally.
It feels like ground hog day all over again! Sigh…
I would pick the N9 over the Nokia 800.. I simply don’t like WP, and adore MeeGo..And I find it a huge shame that Nokia simply abandons MeeGo and goes all out with WP, when they could very easily have both.
I dunno man, I really really like my N9, but every day the little quirks I find a little more annoying each day. And I’m still waiting for update #1 which apparently was officially announced way too soon.
Just now a song came on the radio it and I wanted to know what it was, but I have no Shazam.
I hear about the stuff the winphone is getting like wireless sync et al…and I want it.
btw, I figured it out. The song on the radio was Fishbone – Party at Ground Zero (great tune)
WP has had wireless sync since its inception.
You can manually update, it’s quite straight forward.
Especially via NSU…
Have you looked into it at all?
If you’re not sure where to begin.
I can point you to some good threads/links.
why is the WP7 background white after 7 minutes?
Did he changed it? White background not very good for the battery life?
Yeah he changed it. Black is better for AMOLEDS like in Lumia 800 but have negligible/no effect on LCD vs white.
Yes, I changed the theme – didn’t you notice?)
meego looks really bad against mango
poor scrolling
swipe not registering correctly all the times is bad
not good social/messaging implementation like wp7(opens the app really? the fb app looks atrocious and slow)
non existent selection of apps and games
email client sucks
word documents not shrinking the text is uber fail
the only thing i liked was the music player
elop was right after all
meego is not product that can compete with the likes of android/wp7/ios
it looks like a beta project that needs a lot of work
Anyone know why mp3 album art doesn’t show up on the N9 when transferred in? I see it all there on the win side
oh no that problem still there??? i spent a lot LOT of tine trying to get album art to work on my N900 and finally gave up…
Coverup is coming according to teknolog’s twitter, already submitted to the store. It’s a must have for me. Just buy it.
I’ve had zero problems with album art, assuming I put it in the mp3 or m4a.
I can only blame itunes for the stuff without album art. I can’t figure out how to rip files using my mac with the album art embedded. very annoying feature.
Whatever makes you happy, but you should be informed that the flaws of the reviewer doesn’t necessary translate to the flaws of a reviewed device. Just for public knowledge sake (you’ve already made up your mind, this post of yours is just a stab against Harmattan):
- Even in the video I didn’t notice any poor scrolling
- Swipe is registering correctly 100% of times, you just need to – gosh – swipe it from the side. That’s why the curved glass exists. Nobody but this particular reviewer ever complained about it.
- Telepathy is there – if someone bothered to write a FB plugin for it, you’d have even better integration than you could imagine on the WP7. Contrary to what’s presented and, I’ll give it to you, what is currently there, the
- Non-existent? Really? It’s a smaller set, but non-existent hardly. And there are 3rd party app repositories. Also, need I remind you that you can in theory run any proper Linux app on the N9, along with those?
- Email client, while not perfect, does it’s job admirably. WP’s one is not much better either.
- You can use a dozen of document viewers, it’s a freakin’ app you’re talking about. Btw. I’d love to see how WP7 would present that particular license text in its viewer.
There are a lot of things one can complain about Harmattan, almost all of your points are not those things. There are even more things one can complain about WP7, too.
Good luck with your WP7 device, some of us require different things from our devices. Good luck to Nokia as well, they surely will need it.
What’s going on at the very beginning of the video where he accidentally launched twitter and then swiping failed multiple times?? How can you say it’s registering 100% of the time?
He’s pretty clearly swiping from the side…looks like Twitter has gummed up the works. btw there’s some known bugs with twitter on the N9. For example it doesn’t work at all for a lot of us.
its user error. He is not swiping it right. I can prove this because i used to make the same mistakes when i first got the phone
User error, seriously?
Rule #1 of interface design: never blame the user.
If that’s user error, we’re all doomed.
Its user not swiping properly lol.
I can confirm that Twitter isn’t working on my N9 too.
Here’s how to get your twitter to work. You need to be rooted and have terminal to do it.
open up Terminal and type in the following with ENTER after each line
1. gconftool –recursive-unset /system/http_proxy
3. gconftool –recursive-unset /system/proxy
4. gconftool –recursive-unset /system/osso
5. exit
Twitter should now work on your N9.
I’m not afraid of linux, but I am afraid of that word “recursive” a bit…
There’s a lot of things that are temporarily fixed using terminal. There are some terminal tweaks I wont do.
This one in particular is not crazy. The only side effect I got was all my connection settings were reset.
Exactly. It should be designed so users don’t make errors.
He’s swiping from right to left,is that the problem? No, because when Nokia showed of the N9 you could swipe away apps from any direction.
I like harmattan and I like WP7. The fact is that MeeGo is not a viable OS, it has no future(fact) and developers won’t develop apps for it so the longevity of the N9 is in serious question. Even hardcore Nokia fans like Steve Litchfield say it’s a dead end.
WP7 has a future since it has both Nokia and Microsoft putting their all behind it and the Marketplace is the fastet growin of any OS out there.
I don’t really care if a phone has MeeGo, WP7, Android or iOS in it. As long as it does what I want then it good enough for me. Right now I’m on android but I’m finding it lacking in a few part. Most of it is hardware that’s pretty un appealing (SGS2) but Android feels somewhat bloated and overly complicated. I will most likely go over to WP7 when Nokia releases their highend devices next year because I liked my experience with the Omnia 7 earlier this year. With Nokias hardware and Microsofts extremely present OS I think it will be a winning combination.
That said, you never know what Android devices there will be next year but it seems like the manufacturers are in a spec hardware race right now so I doubt anything super appealing will come out in the near future.
N9 is a fun thing to have for a while but not something you can use for 1-2 years. The Lumia 800 isn’t a future proof device eather so if anyone is going to buy a Nokia WP7 phone I recommend to wait for the next round of devices.
It is User error!!!!
The swipe works from any direction. The swipe action only works when it registers a swipe motion coming from the edge of the screen. I used to make the same mistake. His finger barely touched the edge of the screen.
My other gripe is: He has the rubber case on the phone and I have noticed that this case sometimes prevent full finger contact with the edge of the screen which makes it seem like the phone is lagging or not registering gestures.
They shouldn’t sell the device with a rubber case if it messes with the interface.
Can’t find the damn thing now, but there is a pwd related bug.
Apparently it just missed the cut-off for 1.2.
It’s been “closed_fixed”, as apparently they’re sure they have the fix.
Browse here:
http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/buglist.cgi?product=Device&component=N9&resolution=—&list_id=1875
“swipe not registering correctly all the times is bad”
That’s something I noticed too with some of the demos. Given that it’s a core feature of the OS, it has to work consistently and 100% of the time. It doesn’t.
You noticed with some demos yet you haven’t with your own?
Hmmmm… wonder what that’s all about…
I live in Canada. Not easy access to an N9 over here. Point is, I’ve watched videos of people using the N9, including people who work for Nokia having troubles getting the swipe features to work each time.
But you do have a N9?
I’ve seen you in other forums.
No, I don’t. I’m migo on HowardForums and neowin, anywhere else it’s not me (or maybe it is, but I haven’t posted anywhere else related to technology in years).
Yeah sure
Still don’t like tiles but like OS consistency throughout all apps.
MeeGo’s music player also seems a lot more intuitive than Windows’s.
Nokia store lightyears behind Marketplace. Responsiveness of Windows Phones pretty good in general. But these tiles are such a waste of space.
The tiles are a waste of space if not used well, excellent use of space if used well.
Dear Nokia,
Here is an example of how you directly and personally piss off your customers.
On the front middle of the swipe.nokia.com web page it says in big letters:
“Update your N9″
“Software update for N9 is available now,” I repeat, “available now”
Here are the steps:
- Under “Update using your phone”
- Go into settings
- Go into applications
- Go into manage applications
- Go into updates
- Click refresh
- It doesn’t find anything, I guess I should have done “Update using your pc”
- Download software
- Install software
- Reboot?
- Connect phone to computer
- Run software
- No update is available
Fock you.
you still have another option
FLAHSING N9
google it, it is just simple steps, have look at n9fanclub.com, maemo.org, everythingn9.com
Went through this in another post. Only want to use official Nokia software and it required something called “Navifirm”
Also I’m in the USA so if it gets borked I have to deal with Australia service. If it gets borked I’m not buying another Nokia plain and simple.
Im in U.S. also and i got P.R 1.1 immediately when i bought mine weeks ago. You probably have a carrier version.
Please tell me which carrier is code 059L694
you do have a country variant Australian version. I have 059J246 which is a Singapore version.
Australia must have some regulations or something that cuases them to get updates late. I am just speculating here
Yes, that’s what I said, I have an unbranded Australian edition. If you don’t know the answer, then don’t speculate.
It’s unbranded, and it’s Nokia’s fault.
If it’s not available for an entire country due to a law, then they shouldn’t say it’s available for them , should they? But you’re speculating anyway.
Is this really that hard to understand?
I don’t see anywhere @ http://www.nokia.com.au/find-products/all-phones/nokia-n9 any mention of the PR 1.1 update being available.
Just sayin’…
Check out http://swipe.nokia.com
You won’t have to strain your eyes.
What does a *global* Swipe UI site has to do with *local* Australian market? If you want support for your device, you check what is provided by the local retailer.
I could complain that my car’s manufacturer advertised a new sound system all over their global website, yet I couldn’t add it as a pack to my order because it’s not supported by our local retailers.
Nokia announced that they’ll be releasing the PR 1.1 for Nokia N9 and that it’s on the roll-out, and that “some of you will have already received this update; others will receive it over the coming days or weeks.” They never said it will be instantly available on all devices, but since it is generally available they can freely advertise it on their own site.
I won’t condone such roll-out strategy because I don’t like it either, but that doesn’t mean that Nokia is lying or whatever…
I can’t believe I’m debating about this.
All they need to do is remove that statement from the main swipe page. Who’s the marketing genius who decided to put that there?
It shouldn’t be there if it’s not available to us.
Period.
Probably a law that requires them to install some government spyware.
You also missed the point!!!
The point is that Nokia is saying something is available RIGHT NOW, when it’s not, and wasted my time. Time I could have been using writing stupid comments.
Dear Punching Bag,
I bought my N9 three weeks ago and i got the pr 1.1 update immediately. I cant speak on your behalf nor do I know your location or where you bought your N9. If you bought a generic N9 without operator / network ties, you should have your update by now.
Locked or phone provider N9 or any other phones for that matter takes longer to receive updates. This even happens with Android, Symbian, and Windows.
This isn’t Nokia’s fault.
Sincerely,
Be patient.
It’s unlocked, unbranded Australia
Explain again how it’s not Nokia’s fault?
Are you sure its unbranded? Sellers online can be tricky. People in Australia are usually the last ones to get updates. This happened for Symbian anna update too.
It’s code 059L694
Where on this list does it tell me the Australian carrier:
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/10/03/nokia-n9-product-code-and-variants-shows-uk-ireland-model/
So in other words, the N9 hasn’t solved any of the problems Symbian had.
How can it, when it’s not even top priority??
Easy. Put less effort into it and just say they can’t do carrier customisations. If the carrier wants the phone, they put up with only one version world wide.
Nokia needs to take a page out of Google’s playbook
For all of us idiots who care about getting updates when they say they’re available, set aside a bunch of phones that are guaranteed to be in the first deployment of updates, like the Google Nexus.
For the rest of the world who doesn’t care, let them continue to buy through carriers or amazon or whoever.
@janjaman well known in russian blogosphere as wp7 fanatic. Sometimes stupid and frantic. So…
Yes im prefer N9 for many reasons. Mostly – freedom and support for Nokia Independent way. And 57Gb media storage is not bad for me -)
hi Jay,
i want to make a video to cover all the misconceptions about the N9. Will u make a post with it?
Sure thing, go ahead.
Yemi and anyone else who’s reading my posts in disgust,
I think my N9 is the best phone I’ve ever used
But you guys can’t be so thin skinned that you can’t take real, valid criticism
This is how team Symbian got Nokia into the mess they are today, wearing horse blinders.
Please accept criticism! That’s how we can make this better.
I’m not thin skinned, and your criticism is not directed towards me, and I couldn’t care less if somebody is throwing stones at Nokia given that I neither work for them, nor I own their stock. I’m just saying that almost every company I know of, or rather their marketing department, does similar things.
It’s akin to going to apple.com, look all the high-praise about iPhone 4S being available NOW! Then you click on Buy, and – sadly, no 4S for your country, yet.
The same situation is with the PR 1.1 for Nokia N9 – should the users get it? You betcha! Is it available? Abso-freagin-lutely. Is it available for each and every N9 out there – nope, not yet. Nokia never claimed it would be, either. Unfortunately, Nokia doesn’t sell the N9 ‘global version’, they sell versions for specific markets, and the best way to get support for your device is to check its product page for the market it is sold on. If there was an announcement on nokia.com.au about PR 1.1 being available for Nokia N9, you’d have a full right to rant if it wasn’t showing on your N9.
I don’t agree with such deployment strategy at all, don’t get me wrong, I think that when an update is available it should be instantly (or near-instantly, some bandwidth management could be employed) available to each and every user of that device. Sadly, that’s not the case with Nokia. Nor is with many other manufacturers.
Yeah, and I’ll say it doesn’t matter if the other guys are doing it, if the other guys are wrong…we have this opportunity for a do-over, and do it right!
I can’t wait until they shake off the remaining bad things that got us in this mess
Hey, you have a great idea:
Let’s all start pulling for a new “global edition” whenever there is a release of a new top end phone! I mean that’s what all of us here want, right? Nokia, make it happen!
I am not reading your posts with disgust. I feel your pain because I had to wait for my U.S variant Nokia E7 to get Symbian Anna update long after everyone else got it.
I do have some criticisms on the N9 because no phone is perfect and N9 is far from it. I was only trying to figure out why you didn’t get your update yet.
P.S I am not the type to flash my phones neither so I am with you on waiting for the official OTA update.
Thanks Yemi, you-me are more similar than I thought!
Windows Phone user interface is such a mess. A lot of words on the screen in many different sizes and the header that almost allways takes 25% of the screen. And live tiles that show nothing (beside messages). It’s just annoying.
if you use apps that have live tiles they show lots of information
the guy didnt have installed any apps
he didnt even download the maps of his country on the nokia drive
And what would live tile of nokia drive show? A live car icon?
I just saw that Windows 8 is not coming to phones.
I had always thought this was the big strategy and the reason microsoft phones had a chance against Android and iOS. Not sure what Nokia is doing.
Not a big WP fan but this must a mistake.
Having an integrated OS between mobiles and tablets is one of Apples big advantage.
That’s why Android is going down this route.
Fragmentation is not good.
What type of echo system will Nokia end up with?
They never said they’d take Windows 8 to phones. They were speculating about bringing the Windows 8 kernel to phones.
Windows 8 was never coming to phones, WP8 is.
You probably know more about this than me. Feel free to enlighten me.
I was hoping for Nokia’s sake that Windows 8/WP8 would truly blend mobile with your desktop. This way Microsoft could bundle the two and push people away from Android. Basically do what they did with Word vs Word Perfect and IE vs Netscape. Maybe they will have slightly better integration than Android phones with W8, but Android phones will have better integration with Google services which are more relevant to phones anyway. At least with the general population in the US, google, gmail and chrome are considered far better than bing, hotmail, and IE.
Anyway..just trying to understand the long term reasoning behind Feb. 11, since the short term is obviously a little silly. Whether or not you like the Lumia or N9 better, the N9 is very competitive and would have been much much better without Feb 11.
Parts of the’ kernel are the same, but W8 just isn’t a mobile OS really.
I use W8 beta atm, and while the metro UI is similar to the WP7.5 metro UI, it’s not the same thing.
The cross-platform app thing will be fine I think, MS is pretty good at making SDK under Visual studio that let developer develop under multiple platforms.
They’re also tightly integrating Xbox into WP (although I have a PS3 lol).
I like WP7 but i cant get over the UI of the home screen
side note, warning of graphic content @ 6:38 in the N9 gallery
MDF = Microsoft DeFender?
no its meego defender lol
LOL yeah sure…
Over your dead body.
Pretty lame if that’s really what the abbreviation’s for.