Rumours: N8 successor with 16/32GB+MicroSD slot? Stunning design? + PureView mock up.

| February 15, 2012 | 88 Replies


Once the rumour for the Nokia 808 PureView began, there has been a ton of excitement and doubt. I won’t say any more on this, the discussion is available there.

Rest assured, it’s high and dsmobile (and various sources) are sticking firm to the high MP count. Here’s another instance where dsmobile confirmed the mp count (cheers marc for the tip!) It’s fair game to not believe what was mentioned in the quoted link. There is a linear way to think about what Nokia would do with such pixels, and then there’s some interesting out of the box implementations.

Now onto the design. Some mock up of the 803 has been floating around and well, I’m not liking it. It looks like a 5800 class device. But dsmobile says that the design is stunning so that can’t be the 808 right?

beside even with huge camera the design is really stunning. It would be perfect device with HarmattanMeego.

dsmobile is quite picky in what he likes design wise.


A perfect design for 808 is NOT that mockup unless it significantly looks better in real life.

Some more specific details. dsmobile counters speculation of no removable memory slot to say yes. You can have 16GB or 32GB WITH MicroSD.

Here’s the mockup of the 803 we saw in a manual a while ago (we can’t even be certain that’s real) created by @brianmfb and posted by Mark from TheNokiaBlog.


Category: N8 Successor, Nokia

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  • Michael Faro-Tusino

    That really is a huge sensor

    • Pökö

      That really is one ugly motherfucker. Hopefully Nokia won’t let that hideous monster to surface from where ever cave it lies.

      • Pökö

        I still think (and hope) that this casing that emerged on internet last year is really for this N8 successor.

        • stylinred

          agreed and i have a suspicion/hope that thats what it’ll turn out to be 😉

        • ZiPA

          A high-end camera phone without a hardware shutter release? Me thinks not…

          • Pökö


            Maybe those particular cases were early protos that were scrapped because by accident the hole for the button was missing 🙂

        • c19933

          I remember there is a picture for rumored Nokia801.Regardless the name,I think the photo of the case might match the picture a lot.Here is one site that mentioned 801 back then.

      • Cod3rror

        If dsmobile says it has a great design, I’ll trust him.

        He said the same thing about the N9, and it looks awesome indeed!

  • migo

    Makes me think Nexus S from the front, would be nice if they copied the concave screen idea from Samsung, it protects the screen better if you don’t have a raised bezel.

    • weirdfisher

      actually the nexus s looks like 5800 in the front

      • migo

        Ehhh, no. Maybe the C5-04, but even that’s stretching it.

    • stylinred

      wasnt there a rumor saying nokia was going to make a concave screen using gorilla glass’ new “bendy” glass

  • N8 User

    how reliable is dsmobile ???????

    • Jay Montano

      For Symbian/MeeGo related stuffs, very. Also, I have various other different sources saying similar things (and more)

      • N8 User

        So this great news then…. Cant wait for MWC !!!!

      • Mark

        share these info with us!

  • Mazze

    MeeGo would be an option for me. If it runs Symbian, I’ll give it a pass.

    Don’t like the design in that pic too much. Would prefer if it looked better in real life.

    • Shaun

      I’d love it to be MeeGo but it surely won’t be despite the N9 having much better camera software than either Symbian or Windows Phone.

      But, let’s dream. If it is, my Lumia is going on eBay and my N9 becomes the backup phone.

      • viipottaja

        you mean the camera UI? who’s the say the 803 will not have big improvements to it as well? 🙂

        • reptile

          hmm, some people are maintaining that it’s called 803, while others are saying 808…

          • Viipottaja

            I don’t know what it will be called and it does not matter to me one bit – I only know the internal code name.

    • MDF

      between two dead OSs meego is the better choice

    • krustylicious

      the 808 has no screen buttons just side buttons for vol and camera (poss lock button).

      • zymo

        No front buttons? You mean like N9? Are you guessing or do you really know that?

        • stylinred

          its said to be a buttonless device aside from the ones down the side so that would mean no buttons on the front

          but the picture posted above is just a mockup someone photoshopped based on some drawings of the rear

          • zymo

            Thx! So that would mean Carla to look more like Harmattan. Wonder if there is special way to access Multitasking view in symbain or is just simply long pressing a sw button.

        • krustylicious

          As stylinred said and already mentioned the 808 has been described as no front facing buttons.

          The render above,(taken from the fcc pics) looks as if it was on based a scraped symbian device.

          i suspect there was an 803 and 808 ..

      • FireDragon

        This is what I was about to point out too. Most of the rumors said full-screen and at places I did read no-button talk about it, the screen size also going in favour of having no-button front and as this very article also said “MH” like interface I am not seeing the possibility of button at front.

      • viipottaja

        i assume you mean in the camera view when taking pictures or something like that? afaik the 808 does have hardware buttons on the front.

      • reptile

        but then how do you get back to the homescreen(s) and switch between applications?

        • FireDragon

          The simple way is to give button on the side if they are keeping a button.

  • zymo

    Well the mock up of the 803 really doesn’t look stunning. Hoped to see something which is more consistent with the new Nokia design philosophy

  • Valmon

    It’s a bit Pay As You Go / cheap looking – I hope this isn’t real.

  • blue_crim

    thats 5800 😀

  • Dave

    That mockup looks absolutely horrible. If possible, they need something as clean looking as the N9 – thats truly a classic design.

  • Looks like a C6, and I hate my C6.

  • Marc

    if i didnt know nokia was going to release a n8 successor i would certainly, without doubt think this is an 5800 successor! Which is kinda sad. Alot of people will also think its an 5800 successor by looking at the front. But didnt dsmobile say the body is polycarbonate? Like the n9? If so this mock up cant surely be polycarbonate. Also in that video where they so how the n9 is made it clearly shows how they make a body with a huge sensor! Sumone tipped it yesterday!

  • EmmanuelM

    Hopefully dsmobile is right and the design is stunning (as he said for the N9 in the past).

    The above mock-up is really … sad…

  • Stound

    gosh im now torn apart with this and a future lumia by december

  • qromodynmc

    Back side is looking bad..But I think Real n8 successor will be different,cause we know nokia’s designers They are really good on this..

  • Marc

    cant dsmobile just confirm or hint if this is the phone he used? 😀

  • suyashxp

    it just Look Like Nokia Lumia 710 check It and compaire..

    Ugly Design 🙁
    N9 is Best design !!!

  • afib

    wish it had an led for vid cam recording as well 🙁

  • AngryPenguin

    If we talk about 30-40MP, I suspect a 3D cam. With two 16MP cameras side by side, it becomes almost honest, and probably already legal, to market the phone as a 30+MP device.

    • Valmon

      I think you might be on to something here.

  • salvasprock92

    this mockup is so ugly!

  • Viipottaja

    Heh, hilarious how people get so upset about the look of a mockup. 😀

    I like the internal codename Nokia has for it – kind of befitting for it! Perhaps they will use it in marketing as well.

  • muerte

    if you look at the “how n9 was made” video you’ll see that they are actually carving a polycarb body with a huge space for the camera. Im sure it is the pureview! Looking like N9.

  • the game

    if it looks like N9, God i’ll buy a couple of this without doubt, ’cause mockup is ugly.

  • Deep Space Bar

    it seems if you look at it the buttons seem capacitive but that screen looks suspiciously small,i really hope it’s a 3.7-3.9 inch screen atleast if it’s 4 smooth sailing for Nokia

  • dsmobile

    Mockup is not really well done even they clearly know something. Good for us that the real designers made better job 😀

    It has real buttons. It’s symbian! There will never be Symbian phone that does not have buttons! 98% sure of that. Why would they make extreme make over for OS that will get it’s last major update this year and even that Default UI layout is the same as Belle.

    • spacemodel

      ‘for OS that will get it’s last major update this year’.

      A new Symbian phone with no future at all, you have to be a damn good salesman to get this phone sold at all.
      It’s gonna be nice to see this phone presented at MWC, as a final goodbye, but I will pass, the N8 is my last Symbian phone.

      • dsmobile

        Most people do not think about that. They only think they will like this phone for next 2-4 years and will be happy what comes in the box.

        Only future issue is the apps and well Nokia is actually doing it right by not jumping and making huge cap between Belle, Carla and donna models what comes to apps and Qt.

        You can already see the issue with N9 as it does not get as many apps as Symbian gets because it needs a lot more changes before your app runs in N9.

        • Razus

          “You can already see the issue with N9 as it does not get as many apps as Symbian gets because it needs a lot more changes before your app runs in N9.”

          There was a program to make that less of an issue.
          It was tasked with resolving some of the worst Qt porting issues.
          But annoyingly it stalled quite some time ago.
          Hmmm, I wonder why….

    • spbond

      so its up to 2014 support and not 2016?

      • dsmobile

        It depends of sales really if there is any point of making new hardware after 2012.

        But bottom line is that they need to keep symbian phones from first hardware to latest in same level what comes to apps. They need that apps works in Nokia 500 to Nokia 80x. Most of the apps anyway.

        It would kill symbian faster if they brake application compatibility now.

        • spacemodel

          Well, after the burning platform memo of Elop we’ve already seen the implode of Symbian sales and you don’t have to be a prophet to see those sales further implode in 2012, especially in the last strongholds like China and India.
          As I stated before, Chopin’s Death March will be the best tune to accompany the successor of the N8 to the podium cause it’s definitely over, in a year time Symbian will get the final push into history.

        • spbond

          the only thing i see
          is that elop has done Huge mistakes
          In every other company he would have been fired
          But a large number of stocks are in the hands of US citizens and not EU anymore

          even in 2011(as a dead Os) symbian proved how big it was
          you do not let it fall like that

          Is all the fuzz about dual-core symbian incompatibility justified?

          • Viipottaja

            yeah, it is remarkable Symbian still managed to sell so well in 2011, despite the strategy change and the really quite old lineup of devices until Q3. I guess the new Belle devices revided a bit of the sales towards the end of the year, lackluster as even they IMO are.

            The 803/808/whavever is to me the only exiting Symbian device since April 2010 when the N8 was announced. Two years.

            • Jiipee

              It will be interesting read, what the pre Feb’11 roadmap was for Symbian and Harmattan. I hope that Vanjoki will also reveal the planned strategy within reasonable delay (4-5yrs).

              It was not only N9 that got good reviews this year – also 700/701 received positive comments. There must be a bunch of canceled Belle handsets. Interesting to see Carla as well. Symbian could have been strong for business use now with Office suite before WP8 would be ready.

        • Jill

          that only leaves room for the same nHD resolution 🙁

          the same old resolution .. nothing new .. hope the display turns out to be something innovative.

          • Viipottaja

            I suspect the “pureview” TM has something to do with the camera and not the screen. a pure guess though.

            • Jill

              i think so too .. Finger Crossed !!

  • Person

    The mockup looks good. Maybe there will be 2 camera phones – 803 and 808?

  • galaktus

    “beside even with huge camera the design is really stunning. It would be perfect device with HarmattanMeego.”

    it mean N9 is not the last Meego from nokia?