Weekend Rumours: Nokia PureView 808 Dual Core? #N8Successor
I wouldn’t normally post this because I don’t know how reliable the source is so take it quite lightly.
Apparently the Nokia 808 PureView might have Dual Core according to a tipster on nokiapoweruser. It would be very interesting to see how Symbian performs with even more power under the hood, given how optimized it is on Belle and 1GHz. Some say the 808 won’t be able to do the rumoured 1080p without dualcore, though others disagree and reckon it could be undertaken by the GPU. You might have seen some supposed video samples on upcoming Nokia devices. I haven’t posted them as we can’t verify what device they came from (the first time a user sent what supposedly was lumia 900 footage, and then 803 which changed its name to 808 in the youtube title. I dunno, some people like to pretend. It could be real but I’ll edge on the side of no, as there’s one sure way to show it’s from the N8 successor and they didn’t do that.
Might Nokia Carla have dual core or is that for Donna? We’ve all that to find out at MWC 
I’ll leave all the speculation to you guys, perhaps it might ease some more teasers out of those people in the know .
Source: nokiapoweruser
Cheers Muerte for the tip!
Category: N8 Successor, Nokia, Rumours, Symbian
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ya i have read a lot ofcomments in gsm arena.many speculating it to have dual core.but i think they might be putting a better gpu.
na dual core before windows phone ? would make it harder for windows phone to get support from symbian fans
Better keep them in Nokia than seeing them go with other brands. At least till WP supports better hardware dont you think?
yes a dualcore symbian and 1080p HD RECORDING this is true PureView The Xperia S Killer
I think, N8 killed Xperia S even before it was born.
So N8 successor will be a Landmark like how N8 was and is, and all other manufacturers will play catch up.
how come? There is a review said that xperia s kill n8:
http://blog.dialaphone.co.uk/2012/02/13/12mp-camera-phone-comparison-sony-xperia-s-vs-nokia-n8/
do you have article or link that say n8 kill xperia s?
loool. do you really need someone to tell you that the n8 kills the Xp s? the reviewer didn’t even post full res samples, why would you trust him? its a review by someone who works in an mobile phone store, if that didn’t tip you off I dont know what will.
in that rewiew they didn’t make a good macro whit n8 to let the xperia win
As a phone overall and not just a camera phone the Xperia S can kill any Nokia Phone.
That link also says that the 808 pure view may not have a curved screen…
Carla is supposedly the Symbian version that adds support for dual core..
Isn’t that supposed to be donna?
According to the Symbian Latino leaks.
Dual core CPUs were always supported in Symbian (they were running it on STEricsson U8500 back in 2009-2010). Guess “support” for it is a pure political decision – and also it makes devs to re-code their apps for dual-core which might be a bit of a trouble
Obviously the wrong decision ..
the u8500 should have been used in the n8 orginaly .. (i have been saying this for awhile).
Why wasn’t it? It’s very annoying. Was it to balance sheets or was it not actually possible to do so? Urgh, Nokia. I somewhat hope it’s the latter because if it was the former, it shows that Nokia clearly did not understand how they failed the Nokia Nseries brand with the N97.
High end phones should not be about compromise. High end phones is about the high end user experience. Much higher end hardware could have significantly assisted N8 (especially with Belle). Perhaps battery life factors in an issue and also, could they have even gotten Belle out in time to take advantage of it?
I dunno.
The simplest solution would have been just to have made a maemo 5 version (could Maemo 5 have handled the camera?)
It could have been contractual issues, who knows. The n96 was a disaster due to a certain supplier wanting more money.
Some of biggest failures for symbian, have been inertia, failure to realise the power of touch screen, social media, and mult core tech and finally provide a handset that could use symbian.
Too hard to get it to work on Symbian at the time?
Applications running on OS having real multi-tasking can benefit from multi-core without any re-coding…
E.g. two cores run two apps better simultaneously than single core…
Applications can also benefit from multi-cores without recoding anything if they use some kind of ‘multi-task-framework’ of the OS. E.g similar things like threads in POSIX
the n95 had a dual core cpu
It had 2 CPUs, in a way it was like todays ARM11 + Broadcom GPU platform
N95 was running on an OMAP 2420. It had a, ARM11 + ISP + DSP + MBX (gpu)
The Nokia N96 also had dual core.
No it didn’t. It had CPU and GPU.
N96 was acually famous for going backward on hardware CPU specs compared to N95.
Nokia got screwed on BoM by 3rd parties after the success of the n95 so the n96 was always gonna be “not as good”.
Symbian has had support for dual core for a few years already.
Pure View just might not be limited to 1080p otherwise what is the need for Nokia to register it legally ?
Its definitely more about the Display/Screen Resolution and its relation with the Cam Pixels ?
Pure View will live on future phones too !
I get that, something similar to clearblack?
as Jay mentioned .. those in touch with the Nokia Insiders can only throw some light on this.
dsmobile where are you
?
you are the only one to have seen/used this phone.
I have no info about what CPU/GPU that device have. But it feels faster than 701.
Good to hear from you! Mwc should come soon and enlighten us. I really hope Nokia releases a carla range of devices. News on this?
Faster (than 701) is quite a word !!
Probably due to a better hardware ?
Nokia did trademark PureView under the camera section..
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/01/17/nokia-registers-pureview-as-its-trademark/
Maybe part of being dual core is to improve camera performance ? Maybe it has something to do with what Damian Dining of Nokia said
“…when we do 1080, we’ll do it like no other.”
rumours rumours rumours
yes, camera in Symbian is very dependant on HW capabilities. Check the difference in shots by C7 and 701 for example – same module, but 701 makes much nicer pics
701 is having an upgraded verison EDoF 2 which is improved over c7 edof 1.visit tech2 for detailed comparison b/w edof1 and edof2.
Camera module is the same, difference is in SW/processing cpapbilities
I don’t want to rain on your parade, Jay, but it is highly unlikely for us to see significant advancements, like dual\quad core, from Symbian. It is probably reserved for Windows Phones.
well putting a dual core chip wouldnt be an advancement for symbian really since they used them back in the day; it would almost be going backwards
The Symbian kernel and most of the underlying system architecture is capable of multicore support, but the top UI layers probably aren’t. At least until they switch everything over to Qt and QML which will probably happen in Carla?
Yes,i guess n95 has thow CPU’s it is not a Dual Core But Two Independent CPU’s
you guys are allputting so much speculations finally the device coming will be something disappointing.it may have 1.4ghz single core and maybe a slightly better gpu thats all.
thats more than enough buddy & not disappointing !!
and that is disappointing how?
is the name nokia 808 pureview even real? as far as i know that also a rumour
PureView 100% exists.
What’s interesting is that the name appeared before anybody was yet talking about 808 PueView.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/01/17/nokia-registers-pureview-as-its-trademark/
n95, and n82 had dual cores.
And no 1080p coz symbian cnt’ve it b4 wp’s capable of doin it.
N8 with up to date hw, high res 3.9″ amoled screen is more then enough.
Coz nokia wont sell premium symbian devices
Think . What would you think if nokia said it will have 4K video support? Mind blowing?
impossible
I guess current computers wouldn’t be able to play videos with such high resolution 
Not to mention encoding it (even on dualcore A9 cortex).
bcm2763 which is already used in nokia 700, 701 can handle 1080p.
STEricsson U8500/u9500 + bcm2763
at a guess. i think there was more dual core handests comming 2012 and those particular ones were cancelled. From the elop interview snippets newer models are coming.
back in 2010 Nokia said that we would see dual core phones in Q4 2011 / Q1 2012.
back in 2010 Nokia said lot many things
Well, the current rumour is that Nokia had trouble getting them working with Symbian reliably. No?
Judging from the slow and problematic development of Symbian, I don’t really doubt software had a lot to do with the use on ancient hardware…
I’m not sure what performance the BCM unit has, but the U8500 comes with a very potent Mali 400 GPU. That would render a BCM pretty useless and make it nothing more than a useless extra power drain.
Whats that image you posted of? The squares(rectangles) one.
41Mpx with 5 optical zoom?
Pure view is camera phone product line’s branding
@ krustylicious
STEricsson U8500/u9500 are both SOC(System on chip) with embedded arm Mali 400mp gpu. Every symbian phone including ^3 and 9.4 didn’t use SOC but with same arm 11cpu and seperate gpu either power vr sgx or broadcom. SOC are like cpu+gpu combination on same chipset. AMD have done that with their new APU. I wonder why symbian didn’t use any kind of SOC?
Jay .. 41 beneath the post pic ?? any significance ??
??
41 Mpx
Didn’t dsmobile say that the HW of the 808 is 2.1 where as the one of the Belle phones (701,700,603) is 2.0? Doesn’t that mean no dual core cpu for 808?
Nokia never used dual cores. Nomadic chipset that was used in n96 had two processors, not one with dual core. The only true dual core that Nokia had was U8500. I remember seeing it on Symbian roadmap in 2009. Therefore I can speculate that it was in development for 4 years now. In the past It took 2-3 years to get new hardware platform up. Assuming this timeline, Symbian on U8500 was pretty close to completion. They either had problems with STEricsson’s collaboration – remember chip division Nokia sold to them a while back – or it was purely marketing decision or a combination of both.
While I am excited about dual core Symbian device, but judging from how Belle is doing on N8s, I think even if it comes with 1.5ghz, and a pretty good GPU, with sufficient amount of memory to take load of several heavy applications at a time, It will do just fair with the super heavy browsing and games. I am not so very sure about 1080 videos though.
Multi-cores are good, or maybe very important for Android to look fluid and we all know why it is, for the account of less battery life. On other hand, Symbian (and WP) is not infected with that weakness.
I doubt even dual-cores could make Symbian fluid.
Having said that, I really hope Nokia solved their Symbian issues with dual-core and do release the Nokia 808 with dual-core. I’m definitely buying it for the camera either way, but it would be nice to get something more than an old ARM11.
Damnit. Just as i’ve made up my mind to switch to android, this shows up. It would be so damn nice if it were true.. Guess imma gonna have to wait for the official news before making my decision… Hopefully soon cuz i’m up to renew my plan in 2 months.
they can’t put a dual core processor. they’ll NEVER have a symbian phone better than a windows phone
unless.. UNLESS they already have a quad core windows phone planned ahead~
nokia n8 got better camera than any windows phone, including non-nokia
i hope nokia change their mind to support symbian than useless wp……………. ##### dream never come true
Hope nokia gets this in the markets soon…. Its getting very dfficult to control the urge of buying a galaxy note… Cant buy both