Personal take on WP8 Announcement- What I missed, What I liked
Last night Jay & Michael did an excellent job of updating all the posts as they were announced from the WP8 summit (while I took a nap and woke up halfway through the summit), we saw some really interesting things some slight let downs and have gotten our first look at the new home screen; so here’s a random collection of MY jumbled thoughts on what went down.
What was Announced
- Multi core processors- this has basically sealed WP as a contender in the eyes of Android fanboys who believe that a phone needs seventeen cores to run; well now that’s covered all the way up to 64 cores so we’re good for a couple of months at least; although it’s interesting to note that MSFT seem to have gone down Apple’s route this week where they “forgot” to mention what type of processors are in their new tablets; I highly approve of this strategy and it’s what I’ve begged for for the past 6 months (hopefully Nokia will follow suite); when the consumer doesn’t know what’s inside the device he focuses on the end experience (which will hopefully be excellent); keeping the specs silent will remove any bias expectations of 4 being better 1 even if it’s not properly utilized.
- Higher Screen Resolutions- This was a must do, and frankly if it didn’t come I would have thrown a tantrum somewhere; finally having full HD 720p screens AS STANDARD will be amazing, the screen on the Lumia 900 is awesome enough (non-pentile with Clear Black Display) bump up the number of pixels but keep the same amazing viewing angles and sunlight readability and you have an instant winner.
- SD card support WOOT! Nokia don’t seem to have ever bought into the apple mindset of releasing multiple capacities of the same phone ; which is a good thing because that ideology is now obsolete, hopefully this will also solve the lack of file manager on WP (isn’t it a requirement if you’re going to be using a removable memory card?) as well as making it a bit easier to share those songs.
- New Browser- honestly browsers have never been a major issue for me (which is why Symbian didn’t bother me too much in that aspect) but IE10 is supposed to be awesome, and you can’t go wrong with awesome.
- NFC- This is a second feature that’s never really been an issue for me; simply because nobody in my region even knows what it is, so it’s safe to say I won’t need it; but of course mobile wallets are becoming the new thing in the brighter parts of the world so Yay!
- More Language support, WP8 FINALLY supports a lot more languages including Arabic and Hindi which are practically essential (as there are no WPs in the arab world due to the lack of support), these languages not being included in the original version of WP is nothing short of pure idiocy; but it’s finally here.
What Wasn’t Announced
MSFT were VERY vague when it came to this “improved multi-tasking” I don’t know what to read into that hopefully it’s a work in progress? having an almost unlimited number of cores available should really solve any reason to limit multi-tasking to app freezes, my guess is that at best we’ll see an overhaul of the app freeze system where instead of only the last 5 apps frozen a much larger number (or infinite) number of apps can be frozen.
The other announcement that deflated my bubble a bit was the lack of true Skype integration, although there’s increased and deeper support for VOIP calls now Skype didn’t receive the all start treatment that twitter and Facebook get, staying as “Just an App that can be downloaded”- this isn’t completely bad (check the next section to see why) but I wish they had done something a bit more with it.
Thirdly there was no notification center announced which is a real bummer, I realize that the flexibility of the tiles and the ability to condense more tiles into one area can act as a pseudo-notification center but nothing can make up for the classic list of notifications, I was really hoping for a drop down menu or a second home-screen (Meego style) or anything really.
Regarding Updates:
As you probably know by now the current range of WP devices WILL NOT be upgrade-able to WP8, sad face? not really, all current devices will get Something called WP 7.8 which will bring the new homescreen to those left behind, and when you really think of it what’s new in WP8 that’s NOT hardware dependent other than that? You can’t honestly expect an increase in your screen resolution, or NFC enablement, or for a magical SD port to pop up on your phone now that it’s coming to future phones; WP7.8 will basically be a UI uplift but as one of the speakers mentioned “Someone running WP7.8 will not be able to tell the difference”, and that’s what matters really doesn’t it?
Also rumored is that WP8 will be available for Whoever wants to test it out on a Wp 7.5 device unofficially through MSFT, which is pretty darn awesome; if you REALLY want it then you can get, everybody satisfied? Not yet? well how about promised support/updates to all Lumia owners for the next 18 months.
Since Skype is destined to remain “forever an app” there technically shouldn’t be any reason for the current generation of WP to get this same app with all the overhauls it’s going to undergo, bringing a little sunshine into your world of single cores.
It’s possible that alongside the new homescreen we might see increased language support as that would fit in nicely with the claims that the current line of Lumia phones will support Arabic sometime in October.
Nokia’s Involvement:
My personal opinion is that it was ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL for Nokia to be there at the WP summit last night in some form or way, just to prove their commitment to the platform simply because the Pureview 808 launches in the US Today/Tomorrow which might have planted a seed a doubt in some people’s mind about conflicting strategies and backing out of WP, (keep in mind that the main reason Nokia’s share dipped after an amazing set of MWC announcements was that the best phone to be announced was running on their “soon-to-be-extinct” platform) hopefully this involvement will show the world that Nokia is mature and capable enough to focus on more than one objective without losing focus of its goals.
Secondly Nokia basically proved that they weren’t willing to screw over their early adopters, true us Lumia owners won’t be getting the full-blown WP8 but that doesn’t mean we’ve been forgotten, promising to release a slew of new apps in the upcoming weeks to all Lumia devices is about as much as you could expect for anyone to do (also note that Nokia was the only OEM there at the conference to take the stand, and use that opportunity to toot its own horn – special relationship paying off?); the apps announced include (check out Michael’s post here):
- Smart Group Shot: Capture great group shots in just one attempt by choosing the best faces from a burst
- Action Shot: Capture fast-moving action shots with just one click and significantly improved shooting speed
- Panorama: This new control feature makes it easy to capture beautiful panorama shots by finding the image in the sequence
- Self-timer: Set up your Lumia on a stand and get yourself into more photos
- Data Counter
Also announced was that Nokia Drive (along with Nokia maps) will be the default navigation application on WP, I already knew this was coming from the meetings with the Nokia people at MWC but don’t be confused people this is a good thing and here’s why:
- MONEY!- Nokia will undoubtedly receive royalties on every device that’s sold running Nokia maps, whether MSFT is the one paying these royalties (as part of the licensing fee) or each OEM will pay directly makes no difference, the point is there will be an increase in cash flow for Nokia, which is always a good thing. Also keep in mind that Nokia stopped charging for their navigation fees, although it was 5 years ago the 8.1 billion they dropped on acquiring Navteq will definitely pay it’s dividends soon enough.
- Increase in WP Market share- this goes back to the age-old “increase the size of the pie, rather than your slice of it” This month alone both Apple and google unveiled their own new mapping applications, both bringing turn by turn navigation (albeit online navigation) along with 3D maps for Apple; Bing maps would have been considered a joke compared against these, but with Nokia maps as the default MSFT can advertise the hell out of it bringing more publicity to its awesomeness (For the record I’ve tried Apple’s Maps on iOS 6 and it shouldn’t be taken lightly, with Siri to listen to you and live traffic updates it’s no longer the joke that was navigating on Google maps).
- Secure’s Nokia’s place as an essential OEM for WP furthering the special relationship between the two as well as a sort of insurance policy to protect them from being screwed over.
- Gloating Not really an important factor but when your friend fires up his HTC WP and has to use NOKIA maps to get home instead of HTC’s own failed navigation applicationit’s a reminder to buy a Nokia next time.
Honestly I was expecting an announcement of the removal of Microsoft Zune MUSIC services as well and the incorporation of Nokia Music as the default as well, simply because of the wider foot hold that Nokia has on the world and larger availability, maybe we’ll see that later.
Keep in mind that yesterdays summit was a Windows Phone 8 PREVIEW- meaning that there will probably some more features that weren’t discussed and won’t be discussed until we’re closer to the launch date ( to prevent anyone from beating them to deployment of these ideas; which is practically custom these days).
Anything on your wish list that didn’t make the cut?
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In this topic (like the other topics): People who don’t own a Lumia telling those who do that their phones will suddenly become useless as new models running a new OS will be released in four or five months.
LOL! I bet none of you own an iPhone or early Android device right?
The Germans have a word for all this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
But, that’s us here at MNB…
The problem is that this announcement creates yet another Osborne effect for Nokia. It will now be increasingly difficult to sell the current Lumia phones. And yes, even Apple suffers from a mini-Osborne in every Q2. The iPhone just has so high desirability that it doesn’t bother Apple too much.
“The problem is that this announcement creates yet another Osborne effect for Nokia.”
No denying that.
POssibly, yes. But let’s face it – with the iPhone and SGS II being the exceptions – most phones have sold peak volumes by three months.
It also assumes that mose people have an awareness of what an update is. I’m not sure they do.
So it’s in Nokia’s best interests to NOT BE ABLE TO SELL PHONES WELL for a quarter of a year?
Microsoft is screwing Nokia, hard. Nokia, really, is being the gullible spouse, just waiting and hoping for the neglecting and abusive SO to start treat her well.
What should MS and Nokia have done (barring not releasing any phones with Mango)? Not build a new core and continue with the old one?
I bet none of yous ever heard of that “Osborne” word before and now you all throw it around like swiss cheese, you’ve all diluted the meaning!
Norman Osborne!?
Spiderman!?
Osborne is name of the man, owner of company manufacturing the OsborneI and OsborneII personal computers, long long time ago, in times before “Star Wars” and even before small (8) Atari computers. OsborneI was a commercial success, however mr Osborne has decided to make it better and announced OsborneII which was to be better, faster, easier -just like new window. Problem was in fact that O.II was better but incompatibile with O.I – this has created confusion among current users who stopped to buy I awayting for II, what caused Osborne Co. had no money to finish O.II and deliver it to the market for sell. Finally Osborne has bunkrupted. Osborne effect is an effect when not mature effort to introduce something new lead to catastrophy of the company because potential customers wait for “the new and better model” hence there are no money to produce it and deliver.
Well I have written it from memory so details can be pretty different, but I hope this reflects the sense of the fenomen.
One of basic management cases, well known to most of managers in the world. After obserwing Nokia’s “achievements” in this area I will not risk to say “well known to all managers in this world”. Perhaps that is what makes difference between managers and serious managers. I’d rather not say.
Is this enough answer for you?
For more details see wikipeadia or ask uncle Google.
yea, nokia is so stupid. samsung, huawei & htc don’t experience osborne effect, because they have stopped WP 7.x & wait for WP8 instead.
that is the benefit of having multiple platform, when a platform experience osborne effect, the other platform can help company sales.
true, Elop should be fired out.
i find it very fucking stupid when the nokia 808 2g tmobile scandal broke, every single moron was on the scene screaming at how elop murdered nokia.
Go look at the follow up article, AND SEE THE SILENCE.
And the irony is they’re not even going to buy the 808 anyway!
Yep.
I wouldn’t know. I don’t go into 808 articles, positive or negative, because I have no interest in it.
i was also really looking forward to a messaging api, which would of ment all the messages i get from one contact whether through watsapp, kik etc will all be in one place like the facebook messaging, but i guess most developers would hate it.
No bluetooth file transfer! Fail!
Same old crappy tiles!
And same old crappy comments.
You sure? I didn’t hear them talking about it at all, and if it is not something that affects developers, why would they (seeing how this was a developers preview )?
it’s a 3rd world feature so who cares?? /s
Perhaps the billions people in third world? But MS is interested only in USA and maybe EU, so Nokia has to follow its master and abandon markets where it previously excelled.
Bluetooth file transfer might still come, though. NFC file transfer already came (will be enough for new devices) and more features are said to be released later.
True, but the writing on the wall was made official last week, they will “concentrate” on US, UK and China at the expense of other markets. So it’s either they don’t think they can compete with WP8 outside of these, or they don’t have the money (or because Elop is mad).
I vote for Elop is mad. And hates India.
/s
me too
God I hope so. I’m sure I’m not alone and just waiting in the wings for previous hardware functionality in Symbian to be brought to their new devices. Besides all of these functions actually created additional value for the N8′s 12mpx. I can’t imagine it doing any less for Pureview.
Nokia has always been known for hardware build quality and it’s whats probably keeping me interested. WP8 eco + build quality + hardware functions of S>3 would be a real winner and would probably allow Nokia to cater to (re)emerging markets. Keeping my fingers crossed…
Same here bro. I just want a better Symbian experience through MeeGo, ooops, Windows Phone 8 I mean.
All that hardware and I/O. The best of the Android multicore and openness, the best of the iOS in app quality and GPU, the best of Microsoft cross platform apps and technology, the best of Symbian I/O and energy efficiency.
We all hope for the best for Nokia.
have to agree, I still have my N8 and it is due for an upgrade in August, however I think I’ll wait to see what comes next.
i would like to see a phone like the Lumia 900 with all of the N8 features both software and hardware like the 12mp camera running WP8.
Developers here:
With native C++ on WP8, there is nothing really stopping Qt development, amiright?
Good point! Hopefully they will make that work for the Qt developers. I don’t see why it could not compile to whatever.
Hey developers here:
With native C++ on WP8, there is nothing really stopping Qt development, amiright?
Please delete the dupe, mynokiablog was throwing an error
Open-source libraries are now allowed in WP8.
Because Elop hates Linux.
Well, open source in the form of BSD licenses is allowed from the start in marketplace, AFAIK. But not so free software aka GPL style licensed projects such as Qt. So are you saying that they changed that yesterday?
I’m saying they changed something yesterday. I haven’t checked the details as to how far that will go. They said they now (in WP8) support using native open-source libraries. They didn’t elaborate.
Elop seems to hate everything these days, I wonder how he can wake up in the morning
I just might see myself getting a Nokia W8 device if it allows similar openness to Symbian. I like the Metro interface but I don’t like the walled garden mentality behind it. Android’s a messy experience, iOS is locked down to hell and back, BBX is the ultimate experience in carrier lock-in, and Meego and WebOS are dead.
I don’t expect WP8 to be significantly more open for end-users than WP7 is, nor for software distribution (still the Marketplace thing), but the actual act of software development indeed will get more open.
This blog post is wrong on some things. They stated that mulitasking will be open for all 3rd party apps and devs. They also said Skype will be built in and you will receive skype calls just like a normal phonecall
Multitasking will be more open, but still governed and limited. So it will be somewhat better. Navigation can continue to run while you do other things for example.
VoIP calls like Skype will work like normal calls from WP8 onwards, that is true. Expect that to be significantly better than now.
So, better in both areas, but not MeeGo-like full freedom, because they want to control and conserve resource-use to keep the experience uniform. So, the iOS approach there (somewhat unfortunately, but not unexpectedly).
So glad I’ve bought a 701… Great updates already came and greater updates are still to come.
Symbian should not die.
I too will be getting that phone this year. I heard it ROCKS!
ummm updates… more features to come.. (my personal opinion, pls dnt mark me wrong).. this article is too guddy goody.. howcome they’ll give time to “develop” things/features for lumia when they’ll be fully focused on developing “special”(utilizing partnership with Microsoft) things for WP8..
)..
Sigh..!! Atleast they LEFT BELLE when they had fully grown OS having a good media player, browser, nfc, DOLBY SOUND, enhanced processor speed, awesome BATTERY LIFE, SD card support, and NFS for just Rs 5 (believe me, my friend’s 701 has it in India
Much better, but I’d still like to see FM transmitter and HDMI out (ie like Symbian has at the moment.)
8/10
One of the main reasons for moving to the NT kernel is so drivers and hardware of all kinds would be not only possible but easy to port from exisiting systems. This was heavily pointed out from the opening statement forward, we should see tons of hardware options on Windows Phones.
That wiil explain the GPU selected for this time… I imagine this time will be alot easier to implement a data crusher monster DSP for Pureview… How’s the thing for low and ultralow level hardware acces???
i already have an fm transmitter on my lumia, waht are you talking about?
@lovenokia
You must come from the future.
Which alternate reality does the Lumia series have an FM TRANSMITTER?
Transmitter, not Receiver.
TX not RX.
Lomia does not have any transmiter. Only Nokia N9, on which Lomia shape is designed, or taken from – irrelevant. Perhaps you have mistaken those two different models.
I don’t know about you, but I would feel robbed if I had bought a Lumia 800/900. In a way, people that got those handsets were betting on Windows Phone got EoL’d again.
Current handsets will get 7.8, fine, new UI and perhaps some apps, and bugfixes (because, let’s not kid ourselves, for Nokia, 18 month support will mean bugfixes because they will be focused on WP8). However, the crucial part is WP8 using most of the kernel of Windows 8. The reasoning is that any developer working with Windows 8 can potentially repackage easily their apps to Windows Phone and the inverse as well.
That means that no developer will develop anything compelling for WP7! And there is people locked in their contracts for 2 more years….
While I understand the reasons (the current Qualcomm S2 in Lumia just can’t handle Windows 8 kernel, even if they tried and I applaud Microsoft unification of their mobile and desktop kernels, in your face Apple!) it still leaves a sour taste of mouth. I can’t even recommend in good conscience any Lumia anymore to my friends that want to upgrade as a time proof investment.
As a gesture of good will, if I were Nokia, I would institute a trade in or discount policy for current Lumia users when they get a WP8 handset…
I have Lumia 800, and I don’t feel cheated in any way. I bought it in February, and Nokia WP8 would probably come to my country in next year’s January/February anyway. The way I see it, I get a modern phone for a year. What, you’re expecting it to go 3 years? I’m pretty bummed that I probably won’t get the skype integration, but I don’t use skype much anyway.
That aside, all the features that they just announced that I want is mostly hardware-related, in which mooning after them is stupid. I could’ve bought quad-core android if I want quad core. True multitasking? I’d rather have fake multitasking but smooth phone rather than forcing true multitasking and make my phone lag. Sure it’s be nice to have, but it’s no difference than when I was buying iPad 2 and then the new iPad comes out. I know that my iPad2 won’t magically sprout retina display when I upgrade the OS.
Elop is a traitor, he was paid to sabotage Nokia.. NOKIA NEEDS TO FIRE HIM!…Every decision he’s made so far has been disastrous! – No support for MeeGo, abandoning Symbian in the future etc. The worst news of all being that current WP devices wont be updated to WP8!!! Are you kidding me? This is A HORRIBLE IMAGE for both MS and Nokia. Watch as sales of WP7 devices plummet drastically ….
To Windows Phone users: MUahahahahaha Told ya
Told what?
I own a Lumia 800!
I bought it for WP 7.5… Not for WP8.
And I’m happy with WP 7.5!
i really liked wp8.id like to have some small bits like option for background wallpaper and bluetooth file transfer.
We will see more consumer features later. Let’s hope something along these lines will come, it isn’t impossible at least.
i really liked wp8.id like to have some small bits like option for background wallpaper and bluetooth file transfer.nfc transfer is a welcome addition.
Ali:
IE10 / new browser? Enterprise-y features, such as full device encryption? WinRT / Windows 8 compatability? Nokia maps and navi for non-Nokia devices? Improved speech recognition and new features? Skype integration? Office 2013 suite?
Besides, switching kernels is</strong a software-fix. It is not dependent on any new hardware, and could be easily achieved because Windows Phone devices are internally so very similar.
It seems in fact, that the current cream of the crop (if you can use that expression to refer to Windows devices) are getting not much at all. You’d have to be a diehard fan to claim there’s anything good to Microsoft’s announcements to people who’ve just paid 600 € for a brand-new, albeit ancient hardware-wise, Lumia 900 brick. It just went at least 30% down in value.
It isn’t a matter of making it work, they have been testing WP8 on current devices for a while now. My guess would be that there was no way to make it work well. Nothing is worse than having your phone become sluggish after an update.
No, having a phone become non-functional is worse.
I dont know how a company will succeed without support for low end phones.. after all they cant ship only HIGH end phones.. It just required some effort. After all 1.4 GHz is a very decent value..
Its just lack of will power. And do you really think they would be testing it on L900. Absolute crap. They would be testing WP8 on new devices rather than wasting time..
A tight slap on face for L800, L900 phone owners. Once flagships, now nokia has wiped shit with these flags..
You have a good point. However, look at Apple. They only have one (1) model, and it is considered to be a high end model. They probably can’t be bothered making other models for other levels of market.
IMHO, Nokia should make the best high end phone with all the advantages of all platforms. Then people will take notice. After earning the people’s trust, hearts and minds with such product, spin it off to more affordable lower models, with the best model as the reference and representative.
That is the concept of a FLAGSHIP device.
^_^
Ali:
IE10 / new browser? Enterprise-y features, such as full device encryption? WinRT / Windows 8 compatability? Nokia maps and navi for non-Nokia devices? Improved speech recognition and new features? Skype integration? Office 2013 suite?
Besides, switching kernels is a software-fix. It is not dependent on any new hardware, and could be easily achieved because Windows Phone devices are internally so very similar.
It seems in fact, that the current cream of the crop (if you can use that expression to refer to Windows devices) are getting not much at all. You’d have to be a diehard fan to claim there’s anything good to Microsoft’s announcements to people who’ve just paid 600 € for a brand-new, albeit ancient hardware-wise, Lumia 900 brick. It just went at least 30% down in value.
“It seems in fact, that the current cream of the crop (if you can use that expression to refer to Windows devices) are getting not much at all.”
This is correct. The updates will come, but will be far more limited than just “WP8 without new-hardware-requiring features”. I guess the architecture/bootloader/whatnot changed so much that making a stripped down WP8 for existing devices was not feasible, so instead they will provide a somewhat updated WP 7.5 in the form of WP 7.8 (and of course Nokia will add to that for Lumia owners various additional features through exclusive apps over the coming weeks).
“You can’t honestly expect an increase in your screen resolution, or NFC enablement, or for a magical SD port to pop up on your phone now that it’s coming to future phones…”
No you cannot. What you should expect is the ability to run apps released in the foreseeable future, after all your phone is a couple of months old isn´t it? But new apps, especially games, will use the advanced features of the new kernel like, you know, that thing called DirectX and since all you get is a fancy new homescreen and not the whole deal, you won´t be able to run those apps.
“No you cannot. What you should expect is the ability to run apps released in the foreseeable future, after all your phone is a couple of months old isn´t it? But new apps, especially games, will use the advanced features of the new kernel like, you know, that thing called DirectX and since all you get is a fancy new homescreen and not the whole deal, you won´t be able to run those apps.”
This is correct. And yes, it is bad.
The update response from Nokia is something, yes, but barely, barely adequate. Time will tell how the market will react.
Don´t know about the market, but if I had a Lumia, I´d be pissed!
Funny thing is, they talked about Android fragmentation and how WP won´t be fragmented and will therefore be better for both consumers and developers, jada jada jada. Then, they released the 610 which cannot run certain apps and now this. Android may be fragmented but at least if you buy a phone today, you can be pretty sure it will run all the apps available + new apps released in the foreseeable future.
exactly the point, suddenly they are caught with fragmentation issues of their own. same crapple guys
id expect market reaction to be similar to that of symbian after feb 11
Nokia partnered with EA and Zynga for several upcomign games for the current Lumia’s. Also you can still write apps in Silverlight and XNA for both WP7 and WP8, so if you want your apps to work across WP7 and WP8 you write it in XNA or Silverlight. And even though WinRT is not completely compatible with Silverlight it is around 85% so porting will not be a big issue for apps that do not require heavy hardware use if the developers so choose.
MCST has totally screwed Nokia and only the Elop apologists will try to make this WP8 announcement look like a good thing
Nokia are currently drowning and MCST instead of throwing them a lifeline have instead pushed Nokias head back under the water
This is almost a big a fail as Elop announcing the death of Meego prior to launching the N9
The Lumia 900 is now totally still born
(i fear my N964GB will be my last ever nokia!)
yeah – it’s not exactly a good feeling when you are buying a flagship device that’s going to be castrated soon after release. 7,8 update and patches after wards might be there. but you cannot deny the fact that it’s going have lower res.
but apologists as usual will say 900 will be a world class device, and it’s fast and has adequate resources in its own right, and that it does not need 64 cores or multiple GBs of ram or a generator as backup – yet their own devices suffer from low ram, low battery, low space on C drive, laggy hardware – unbelievable! this is the single reason why nokia suffered from real competition, because customers put up with their lowly hardware for years. the whole point is that nokia has never produced that superb device which is class leading for a long long time. except for a camera unit or two.
Having a symbian phone I could send files between devices without any stupid program on a PC (thinking about Zune here), I was able to browse my files on internal memory, install whatever I wanted to and many more. I could easily use my phone as a pendrive for presentations etc.
Now I bought Lumia 3 months ago and found out I can’t do any of these. That’s called a development, huh?
But I thought “ok, no problem, WP8 update is comming, it’s only temporary”. Now I see that again Nokia doesn’t care about a customer, and after stuffing him with some device it stops to support it and moves to something else. Cause you simply can’t call adding new homescreen an improvement.
And while they talk about hardware support, I know I don’t need multicore support since I have only one, but I do have a huge internal memory that I can’t use. You may say that I have this stupid “cloud-thing”. True, until you travel a lot and have to pay huge roaming fees.
I had well over 20 nokia phones in my life. Starting from 5110, ending on Lumia 800. Now I’m sure I will never buy Nokia again. Not because of their hardware, and even not because of the software, but because I feel they don’t care at all about their customers. And that I can’t stand.
found on windows phone developer maillist:
“WP8 will not have WinRT or C++0x as a matter. We will only have Silverlight (now renamed to XAML) with P/Invoke for Native Code. Just to make it clear, WP7 also supported that scenario – MSFT just only made it available to selected devs (and MSFT first-party apps ofcource). C/C++ developers will not be able to create UIs (no XAML/C++ as in WinRT). Only fullscreen games will be able to get rid of CLR. Also, no D2D, no DirectWrite, no PPL, no C++AMP, … nothing that’s makes native development exiting on WinRT.
After two years since WP7, C/C++ developers will be still second class on WP8.”
WP8 doesn’t impress me at all, nothing new, just more effort to catch up symbian and android.
nokia is doomed, must fight android & other WP8 OEM, while its manufacturing capability is weak, and losing its map exclusivity.
People want Symbian features on WP8. Even IOS doesn’t have all those features. its a trend of performances and taking the experience to a new level. I think microsoft doing it a right way. Kudos Nokia and WP8.
all I could say about the author after reading the whole article is : What a Fanboi A-hole. And what an apologetic article. Jay is a fanboi too, but not of this level.
Well it does not impress me. In the matter of fact it unimpressed me: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57458692-94/nokia-sales-estimates-slashed-after-news-of-windows-phone-8/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
And Ali you did not send me pictures.
I have heard the Microsoft is manufacturing and selling their own tablet on their own. Seem that would be all about Nokia tablet with Windows. It is good that it is before Nokia has been involved in this tablet, as form my point of view that would be so so so strange….! Now that is clear, whatever that would be this would not be any bussiness notr any money for Nokia. No future.