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	<title>Comments on: Ex Apple Exec, Jean-Louis Gassée on Nokia, Elop and the board</title>
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		<title>By: Bharat Justa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bharat Justa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 18:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, what great things have you done sir?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, what great things have you done sir?</p>
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		<title>By: manubharath</title>
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		<dc:creator>manubharath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+1 to Jay!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 to Jay!</p>
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		<title>By: stephen ahonen</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen ahonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 23:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what is the difference? By going WP, they will support MS&#039;s location ecosystem, haha. MS already have bing maps]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the difference? By going WP, they will support MS&#8217;s location ecosystem, haha. MS already have bing maps</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Montano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Montano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JLG may be a distinguished man. I openly and honestly said I did not know about him. I also read several comments from others (in source blogposts and additional blogs) wondering why his opinion would matter more than any one else&#039;s, so I made a note of this unfamiliarity. 

Therefore, I gave a brief background from what I found on Wikipedia that he used to be at Apple. The headlines I was reading said he was an ex Apple guy, so I expanded on that a little. I also made a note that he&#039;s not only an ex Apple guy but did quite a bit outside of that too. 

So therefore perhaps he has some knowledge to pay attention to. I presented a link to his Wikipedia page because that shows a wealth of information about what that guy did.

I tried to understand where he might have been coming from.  I accepted my limitations on my knowledge about him and let my readers have a source of information where they can find out more about who he is should they wish to.

Apologies if you interpreted this as extremely negatively as you did.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Before you disparage of other, older and more experienced people’s opinions, it would be proper to have a reputation for doing something notable yourself. Running a blog in your spare time is not it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Blogging for me is not simply about talking about the stuff I&#039;m an expert in. (I wouldn&#039;t even say I&#039;m an expert in many Nokia stuff, I just know what I like, dislike) I have limited knowledge and take the opportunity to learn whilst I share what I&#039;ve learnt. (That&#039;s why I love going to the open comments section to read and be educated by my readers because many have much more experience and knowledge about it that I do and I appreciate that they take the time to share here). I may express an opinion based on that limited knowledge but will let people know that it is from a limited perspective. 

Quite rightly so, mobile isn&#039;t my industry. I&#039;m merely a fleeting observer, a fan of Nokia who takes some time every now and again to blog. I wish I could spend more time to learn about this industry but unfortunately, time is limited and is allocated to more pressing matters in real life.  

You&#039;re giving me a tip that essentially to my understanding is that I shouldn&#039;t have opinions about other people unless I have a reputation of doing something notable myself and that blogging doesn&#039;t cut it for you. Well I&#039;m sorry about that. This is why this blog will always be labelled an informal, random blog for that same reason. I&#039;m just a hobby blogger. And like many hobby bloggers, we will share our opinions based on what limited perspective we have of the industry. Does that mean we shouldn&#039;t simply because we don&#039;t know everything nor have a distinguished background of the subject and therefore those more distinguished cannot be talked about? I hope not.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I hope you act differently in professional matters. All the best, etc etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let me reiterate that my blogging at Nokia is just something I do as a HOBBY, something I enjoy, something I find relaxing.

I appreciate your concern with my professional life and would like to assure you that I take utmost care and attention there and that is why I do not spend as much time as I would like to learning about the mobile industry. I wouldn&#039;t want to say I act the same because blogging is my a hobby that I enjoy, again - something to relax to. I wouldn&#039;t want to have the same formal restrictions here that I would impose on myself in the clinical/medical/real world setting. But don&#039;t worry, I make sure I adhere to the conduct proposed by the GMC and the document outlined in the publication &#039;Tomorrow&#039;s Doctors&#039;.

There are limited hours in a day and I prioritise my medical career, family and friends.  I do what I can to make sure I can get the most and the best I can out of everything.

I also appreciate my readers here and when I see that they ask me to specifically talk about a certain subject or accuse me of ignoring a certain subject, I will do what I can based on the time that I have to quickly summarise what I think about it. This is why, I would often leave topics in drafts or never get around to many other topics because they take time to research to present accurately and fairly and I don&#039;t have that luxury of stopping time.

Cheers,

Have a good weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JLG may be a distinguished man. I openly and honestly said I did not know about him. I also read several comments from others (in source blogposts and additional blogs) wondering why his opinion would matter more than any one else&#8217;s, so I made a note of this unfamiliarity. </p>
<p>Therefore, I gave a brief background from what I found on Wikipedia that he used to be at Apple. The headlines I was reading said he was an ex Apple guy, so I expanded on that a little. I also made a note that he&#8217;s not only an ex Apple guy but did quite a bit outside of that too. </p>
<p>So therefore perhaps he has some knowledge to pay attention to. I presented a link to his Wikipedia page because that shows a wealth of information about what that guy did.</p>
<p>I tried to understand where he might have been coming from.  I accepted my limitations on my knowledge about him and let my readers have a source of information where they can find out more about who he is should they wish to.</p>
<p>Apologies if you interpreted this as extremely negatively as you did.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Before you disparage of other, older and more experienced people’s opinions, it would be proper to have a reputation for doing something notable yourself. Running a blog in your spare time is not it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Blogging for me is not simply about talking about the stuff I&#8217;m an expert in. (I wouldn&#8217;t even say I&#8217;m an expert in many Nokia stuff, I just know what I like, dislike) I have limited knowledge and take the opportunity to learn whilst I share what I&#8217;ve learnt. (That&#8217;s why I love going to the open comments section to read and be educated by my readers because many have much more experience and knowledge about it that I do and I appreciate that they take the time to share here). I may express an opinion based on that limited knowledge but will let people know that it is from a limited perspective. </p>
<p>Quite rightly so, mobile isn&#8217;t my industry. I&#8217;m merely a fleeting observer, a fan of Nokia who takes some time every now and again to blog. I wish I could spend more time to learn about this industry but unfortunately, time is limited and is allocated to more pressing matters in real life.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re giving me a tip that essentially to my understanding is that I shouldn&#8217;t have opinions about other people unless I have a reputation of doing something notable myself and that blogging doesn&#8217;t cut it for you. Well I&#8217;m sorry about that. This is why this blog will always be labelled an informal, random blog for that same reason. I&#8217;m just a hobby blogger. And like many hobby bloggers, we will share our opinions based on what limited perspective we have of the industry. Does that mean we shouldn&#8217;t simply because we don&#8217;t know everything nor have a distinguished background of the subject and therefore those more distinguished cannot be talked about? I hope not.</p>
<blockquote><p>I hope you act differently in professional matters. All the best, etc etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let me reiterate that my blogging at Nokia is just something I do as a HOBBY, something I enjoy, something I find relaxing.</p>
<p>I appreciate your concern with my professional life and would like to assure you that I take utmost care and attention there and that is why I do not spend as much time as I would like to learning about the mobile industry. I wouldn&#8217;t want to say I act the same because blogging is my a hobby that I enjoy, again &#8211; something to relax to. I wouldn&#8217;t want to have the same formal restrictions here that I would impose on myself in the clinical/medical/real world setting. But don&#8217;t worry, I make sure I adhere to the conduct proposed by the GMC and the document outlined in the publication &#8216;Tomorrow&#8217;s Doctors&#8217;.</p>
<p>There are limited hours in a day and I prioritise my medical career, family and friends.  I do what I can to make sure I can get the most and the best I can out of everything.</p>
<p>I also appreciate my readers here and when I see that they ask me to specifically talk about a certain subject or accuse me of ignoring a certain subject, I will do what I can based on the time that I have to quickly summarise what I think about it. This is why, I would often leave topics in drafts or never get around to many other topics because they take time to research to present accurately and fairly and I don&#8217;t have that luxury of stopping time.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Have a good weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Janne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come to think of it, JLG did say Nokia should have dumped Symbian already in  2010.

Maybe dr_zorg will finally agree with that too? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it, JLG did say Nokia should have dumped Symbian already in  2010.</p>
<p>Maybe dr_zorg will finally agree with that too? <img src='http://mynokiablog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dr_zorg</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr_zorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the article. Jay made a character judgement on a distinguished man who has a lot of experience in the business. Opinions are one thing, but this passage here:

&quot;I’ve not really heard of this guy up until now or know why his opinion should weigh more than anyone else’s. Check out his Wiki page for more info. It seems that JLG himself was forced out by Apple’s board for poor performance. Well, that’s what Wiki said about him. Although he’s done quite a bit outside of the Apple thing, his name is referenced most as an ex Apple guy, which is probably why his opinion about Nokia is spreading.&quot;

... is actually demeaning the man&#039;s achievements in the field and saying he&#039;s a nobody and you shouldn&#039;t value his opinion. Which is obviously not true. It is a rude bit of text, and for the sake of objectivity (is there such a thing on this blog nowadays?), perhaps Jay ought to edit that part.

My comment still stands.

Besides, I remember how for simply saying I didn&#039;t like one Nokia&#039;s execs for a reason, Jay and his court went all aflame on me about it. If it works one way, it works just as well the other way too. No double standards :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the article. Jay made a character judgement on a distinguished man who has a lot of experience in the business. Opinions are one thing, but this passage here:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve not really heard of this guy up until now or know why his opinion should weigh more than anyone else’s. Check out his Wiki page for more info. It seems that JLG himself was forced out by Apple’s board for poor performance. Well, that’s what Wiki said about him. Although he’s done quite a bit outside of the Apple thing, his name is referenced most as an ex Apple guy, which is probably why his opinion about Nokia is spreading.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; is actually demeaning the man&#8217;s achievements in the field and saying he&#8217;s a nobody and you shouldn&#8217;t value his opinion. Which is obviously not true. It is a rude bit of text, and for the sake of objectivity (is there such a thing on this blog nowadays?), perhaps Jay ought to edit that part.</p>
<p>My comment still stands.</p>
<p>Besides, I remember how for simply saying I didn&#8217;t like one Nokia&#8217;s execs for a reason, Jay and his court went all aflame on me about it. If it works one way, it works just as well the other way too. No double standards <img src='http://mynokiablog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Janne</title>
		<link>http://mynokiablog.com/2012/07/06/ex-apple-exec-jean-louis-gassee-on-nokia-elop-and-the-board/comment-page-1/#comment-611217</link>
		<dc:creator>Janne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This went to the wrong place:

Guys, guys, guys. It’s a beautiful summer, I have no desire to restart this debate. Like I said to yasu above, you can have the last word. I have explained myself ad infinitum, you don’t or can’t hear me and that is fine. My point is already said many times in this thread alone. I have nothing to add to that, retrying to explain it to you is useless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This went to the wrong place:</p>
<p>Guys, guys, guys. It’s a beautiful summer, I have no desire to restart this debate. Like I said to yasu above, you can have the last word. I have explained myself ad infinitum, you don’t or can’t hear me and that is fine. My point is already said many times in this thread alone. I have nothing to add to that, retrying to explain it to you is useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Janne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, guys, guys. It&#039;s a beautiful summer, I have no desire to restart this debate. Like I said to yasu above, you can have the last word. I have explained myself ad infinitum, you don&#039;t or can&#039;t hear me and that is fine. My point is already said many times in this thread alone. I have nothing to add to that, retrying to explain it to you is useless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, guys, guys. It&#8217;s a beautiful summer, I have no desire to restart this debate. Like I said to yasu above, you can have the last word. I have explained myself ad infinitum, you don&#8217;t or can&#8217;t hear me and that is fine. My point is already said many times in this thread alone. I have nothing to add to that, retrying to explain it to you is useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Janne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is not the location point.

By going Android Nokia would support Google&#039;s location ecosystem. By going WP they can best support their own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is not the location point.</p>
<p>By going Android Nokia would support Google&#8217;s location ecosystem. By going WP they can best support their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Death Merchant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Death Merchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In Finland it was quite likely the heaviest promoted handset on the market at that time – and definitely the heaviest, if not the only, promoted by Nokia during the period.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mainly done by the carriers who sold it, not Nokia. And even then, it was peanuts compared to Lumia&#039;s marketing. Lumia was every-fucking-where. One couldn&#039;t go to buy food from a supermarket without seeing Lumia adds on the checkout.

And every news article remembered to point out that N9 was dead on arrival device with a dead platform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In Finland it was quite likely the heaviest promoted handset on the market at that time – and definitely the heaviest, if not the only, promoted by Nokia during the period.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mainly done by the carriers who sold it, not Nokia. And even then, it was peanuts compared to Lumia&#8217;s marketing. Lumia was every-fucking-where. One couldn&#8217;t go to buy food from a supermarket without seeing Lumia adds on the checkout.</p>
<p>And every news article remembered to point out that N9 was dead on arrival device with a dead platform.</p>
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