Another interview with Jolla’s CEO
A couple of interviews again with Jolla’s CEO. First one was kindly translated by jiipee.
http://blogit.tietokone.fi/ossi/2012/07/haastattelussa-jollan-jussi-hurmola/
You can read jiipee’s translation below but I think crisscross has found the english version in the next link:
http://www.ossimantylahti.com/2012/07/interview-of-jussi-hurmola-jolla-mobiles-managing-director/
- There is possibility for co-branding
- First phone is directed to mass market and is a true smartphone, not something only for Linux devs. Consumers wont be able to hack the device or flash it.
- Their target is to make a separate device directed to Open source community, Linux fans and partners a separate developer device
- Financing for step one is secured. No indication related to turnover and profitability is available before the phone is launched
- Hurmola is amused of the question, how come they are going to launch a meego phone in less than a year, when getting half-meego phone out from Nokia took 2 year. “We were working on Meego and we know what went wrong in the process” Jolla consentraces on doing actual work and uses a lot of partners. “Nokia published the last Meego update few weeks ago. Open source community kept on working on Mer and Maemo also. A lot of work has been done since”
- On IP rigts: Our software stack is very much alike to the other players. Most of the code is open source Meego, Qt and Ophono. One needs to have certain basic tech to manufacture a phone: GSM, UMTS and IU codes. These we have licensed just like others. The differentiating factor, UI, is made by Jolla. (asked about Nokia IP) We have licensed certain IP right, but I cannot name them.
- What does Open source code mean to you? Almost all of us have been involved in OSS. Jolla is using RPM-based Mer distribution. Qt is important part of the device and we believe that Qt is the best platform for UI development. Jolla targets sharing most of it’s codebase to open source community and help to build the ecosystem. We are not going to own it, but lead it.
- What do you mean by “mahdollistaminen” (making possible)? There are a lot of players on the market with services that struggle between Android and IOS. Also resellers, operators and developers want another, different option. In addition consumers want to see something new in the UI department. In this case, making possible means that we can design a device completely from HW to SW.
- Unfortunately I cannot tell more about the HW. I cannot eg. say anything about Intel partnership. We will introduce the phone this year, but cannot yet promise it to be shipped for Christmas.
- What is different in our phone is true multitasking, app integration and information integration. I want to get rid of the way of using phone by opening and closing apps. It must be possible to customize the UI by the user. Multitasking can be problematic for power consumption. But we believe that by setting certain parametres corretly, we can overcome it. We have studied these things for 10 years and believe there is a solution for it. We also believe that by using the parametres correctly we can ensure that apps can work without continuous access to WLAN, and 3G and screen refresh.
- Where to get the apps? It is clear that we need apps to the ecosystem. So far we have published the Qt/Qml approach, but that is not enough. We keep on building the ecosystem and will have our own app store. When we are publishing the phone there needs to be plenty of apps available. We’ll let you know more then.
- What about Angry birds? It is already available on Meego device.
Cheers jiipee and crisscross for the tip.
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Jolla ticks all the boxes for me: Linux-based + Qt\QML + True Multitasking. Can’t wait for the release of their phones..
Ya Same here.
Come on Jolla
+10000
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Could ZTE be producing a Jolla mobile? sounds like a long shot but you never know
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/zte-to-launch-tizen-based-handset-in-2012-1089457#article-comments
If you keep on the amount of posts about Jolla Mobile you should considering renaming mynokiablog to myjollablog
Or MyNokianBlog
+1
We keep posting about jolla is because of Meego.
and obliviously people here care notece all the sympathy it gathered
At least a smartphone that makes me dream. It definitely changes from the powerful but soulless Android phones, or the extremely user friendly (I mean UI) iPhone but so limited.
Put all the magic in the N9 box, increase the resolution and power, if necessary for the later, bring a good (but no need for the PV 41 MPix sensor) camera, and the whole thing will be mine !
(Oh, I forget something: please don’t sell this phone at a price around 1000EUR… That’s **only** a phone, as smart as it is…)
+1
I hope that tehir first phone is a success and that way jolla gives a slap to Nokias wrists and says “this is how you make smartphones”.
I surely will buy one.
Somehow, I hope that MeeGo, WP, Android and iOS will share the future smartphone market, so that linux makes about 30+30% of that, Windows about 30%, and iOS about 10%. One can hope, right?
dead man walking
Not really.
While, the ui/usability group of users seem taken care of by IOS and WP.
and the customizability group covered by android,
The open source gtpup still needs something to rally to.
so its just for the hobbyists, wannabe geeks, weekend nerd warriors ?
and they think this will topple nokia?
lame.
have you read the article? the will be 2 devices: consumer’s one and geek’s one
I find it interesting they want to do that. Why not make the both the same?
jolla doesn’t need to topple nokia
i’ll be happy enough if it can fulfill the dreams of linux fans
where have they said that tjey want to topple Nokia. Ive yet to see any references to Nokia’s sales by them. Or to Nokia in general outside the credits they’ve given to a good former employer and Bridge program.
Didnt you read the post at all? The device is primarily for mass market. Then they will have either separate device for devs/OSS community or developer mode option.
What they’ve said is that they need to ship in volumes. Id expect some 300k devices sold for the first one would already be enough. They might make loss, but secure financing for the future. That would require them to have some sort of emulator to run apps from other ecosystems.
They don’t need to topple Nokia.
Elop is doing that all on his own.
Thankfully, they wouldn’t start launching on a carrier-hostaged country.
The ‘new Nokia’ is indeed a dead man walking relying on an OS which is on life support (similar to a terminal rich old man).
so why are you here?
go to the jolla blog, or try their website …. no wait..
Because Jay publishes stories which are more than related to just the Nokia brand name. And because this article is related to Jolla, I’m commenting.. But why are you commenting on this article?? This isn’t related to MS or brand Nokia..
is that all u comment on, just jolla? u never comment on wp?
hows the jolla website?
hows the jolla blog?
Jolla is doing great. It is creating buzz in the necessary market (a growing Chinese market instead of saturated US & Western European market) & among the communities( Qt\Maemo\MeeGo\Linux communities). It doesn’t need a website or blog since they are using twitter to update and I’m happy with that. Also, it doesn’t need to spend lot more to market a device than its actual price (unlike some one – http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/16/nokia_lumia_sales_guesstimates/ ) because it is creating the buzz it needs for free..
Also, I care & love the original Nokia and the 15 Nokia phones in the last 10 years and am sad to see the way they are taking Nokia for what it represented to what I hate as a company. There are lot more things still I like at Nokia but the day all those things die or move on, I’ll move on from Nokia. Until then, I’ll be here.
dead man walking, zombies talking.
need i say more
You don’t have anything to say.. So, don’t sweat..
No you don’t… You are conversing with what you call zombies, and as experience has thought us – when you encounter somebody who claims that he talks with dead people you should back off slowly and dial 911.
Less of the antagonistic comments please.
That goes for everyone in any section of MNB.
Thanks.
ok boss
i’ll behave,
I have a feeling that that was said about wp
dead man walking? you think there is no more space for innovation execpt established companys? how sad the world would look like!
some fresh air keeps the world moving! thanks MNB covering jolla&co!
talking about wp?
My primary phone is the 808 Pureview and i was looking out for a second phone with a different OS to help me transition to a new OS (and well a second number). I had almost settled with a lumia 610 until microsoft’s windows 8 preview and i knew the 610 would be dead in the water (I dont like android after i used my wife’s Defy+, i lags like crazy)
Well this seem to match my needs (true multitasking, a UI where i dont have to open and close apps to see updates).
I can’t wait. Jolla make my day and release the phone in India
MotoBlur(the moto skin of Android) sucks. Pinch zooming is very laggy even on dual cores.
You’ll get much better experience on other OEM UIs
Android 4.1 is butterly smooth~
Anyway, I just couldnt leave the swipe UI on my N9 for Nexus
Swipe UI alone captured our hearts, i feel you bro.
“What about Angry birds? It is already available on Meego device.”
Looking at that statement carefully, does that means n9 apps will be compactable with those upcoming Meego devices? If yes, that is extremely cool giving endless hope to current n9 users… but does this means Jolla will have my money!
one would imagine that they are
Jolla did kind of confirm on twitter that apps developed for Harmattan will run on their devices..
make it nice and beautiful, make it powerful and strong, and make it cheap and Jolla might just be the next big thing.
cant wait to see what they bring
Somebody should ask those guys two questions that remain unanswered but can mean a great deal:
- Is there a binary compatibility between the N9 and their devices (covert answer: is their planned device an ARM or Intel based one, and do they implement the full MeeGo 1.2 API)
- Smartphones come in many shapes and sizes, do they plan to release a high-end or a mid-end smartphone, and will its UI be constrained to external button input (covert answer: estimated price range and do they have swipe-like UI)
+1. Hope Jolla confirms these soon.
transition from dpkg to rpm packaging format : you at least need to repackage your app. So, if needed you can rebuild your app at the same time.
The biggest problem is switching from Qt 4.7 to Qt 5.0 : your code may not be compatible, and may need some rework. Nothing too much complicated for most apps.
But your questions are nicely designed to try to grab some infos on current “we cannot disclose this details now” subjects.
Well, that’s the whole point of those questions… To covertly obtain some more info by mere deduction
incognito, I got this reply from Jolla for N9-Jolla app compatibility: Certain amount of re-work might be needed depending on app. Details will be shared later
I read a Jolla interview on nokiagadgets.com where he said that Jolla couldn’t give any details on Intel partnership yet… Check it out!
Looking at the comments here its obvious what one of elops faults are:
The demographic of nokias users.
When Symbian^3 and s60^5 scared off the consumers that are looking for the iPhone/Android experience (symbian guru comes to mind) the left over fans are probably hardcore open source/linux fans, and people who like Nokia.
By dropping symbian, meego we can obviously see that nokias fan base has been mostly, open source people. people who buy Nokia, because its a Nokia seems to be non existent.
now all those people, aren’t going to support nokia, and would probably sabotage nokias attempt to renew itself (stuff like n9 owners telling lumia owners they are copycats).
Perhaps its better that nokia bet the farm on meego because at least they would have avoided the wraith of the open source community.
To me, it seems to be, once your open source, always open source, or we will attack you endlessly and screw you up.
No, not really. Partially true – what Nokia was left off were either (F)OSS enthusiasts or die-hard Nokia fans, both of which were let down by ‘microsoftization’ of Nokia and you can always expect bad blood in such situations. I have argued for years that if there is a problem in Nokia greater than execution – it must be communication. They just don’t know how to handle their brand following and they have shown on countless occasions that they have no idea what their consumer base is.
Next to the Ratner and couple of Osborns that Nokia has performed since Elop took the helm – and you can argue that those were performed deliberately to shake Nokia into the new strategy – which for the most part affected their retail and sales channel, they performed a New Coke as well out of a share ignorance and complete obliviousness of their (remaining) user base and their needs.
“they have shown on countless occasions that they have no idea what their consumer base is.”
That is enough to warrent sackings, primary elop’s, as he just hasn’t a clue as to what a nokia customer is.
The famous graph showed itself to be the biggest laugh ever at the expense of 40k jobs.
Back to Jolla, I suspect the bridge program, has buyback options entailed into the contract and or shares.
the thing is, you guys seem interested in sacking elop no matter what.
at anyrate, what he did was far better than any previous attempts by old nokia.
at least there is a focus, on the normal consumers more than the open source crowd. to me it make sense, after all nokia used to target the normal consumers, which is the largest slice of the pie is.
too bad its far too late. for it to work, lumia should replace symbians60^5 and symbian^3 should never had existed.
i consider myself part of the hardcore nokia group, but im happy nokia took this new direction.
makes recommending nokia phones to family and friends so much easier, as well as lumias being more relatable app wises, and user friendlness wise.
Yes, arts is the right one here
agree, after N97 disaster, most nokia casual users left, the remaining are :
- anti US OS
- linux fans (maemo fans)
- community based software fans
- anti big corporate (& anti US corporate)
- opensource fans (qt fans)
- nokia brand fans
after use WP, MS fans join the nokia fans, well, then you can predict the result.
could splitting nokia into 2 independent companies bring better situation? we’ll see
the n97 disaster was actually a corporate wide disaster as there was several handsets which suffered the same logic
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i don’t know, to be honest, i don’t experience N97 disaster, when S60v5 handsets were launched, i didn’t buy them, because I was very happy with my S60v3 E51.
i think nokia didn’t fix S60v5 fast, because they still got lots of money from E71. it was sold like hot cakes in my place
I doubt it would work. But at least open source folks have something positive to focus about.
Yes, we hang around hoping and waiting for a different device. I still have my n97, gathering dust most of the time. In the short term I had to get a wp7 phone but hoping meego goes in the direction which is so lacking right now when it come to a real alternative to the main four ecosystems out there. The 808, looks good but I will keep my eye on Meego, maybe they can deliver, we shall see.
IMO, in the future, smartphones need standard hardware platform, just like x86 in PC, we can install linux or windows in the same hardware
I would expect the mobile businesses’ to try to avoid it as long as they can. Then one single company is able to disrupt the market.
excited .)
I bet Intel is also involved, by also it seems Nokia is most like the 10M backers. If Jolla does well and WP keeps struggling i guess Jolla will be Nokia’s backup plan.
I have a Nokia E7 and a new Nexus and would be very excited to get a new Meego next year, with 4.3 or larger size screen.
For all the WP fans don’t read this articles if it upsets up.
And the difference between consumer and developer will be determined how exactly?
Via you ssh the device and open dev mode, if you manage that you are a dev
just speculating but something along those lines makes the device safe for joe user and easy to hack for dev’s
I hope so, but the formulation and the context about second, different phone for “open source community” isn’t very reassuring. Perhaps something was lost in translation?
I wonder what the IP licensed from Nokia is? Wild (and great) to hear their co-operation extend that far.
Most probably some FRAND stuff, and Nokia is required to license these.
Why couldn’t they name basic FRAND licenses for GSM etc in an interview? In fact they do elsewhere. But this Nokia IP was said to be secret so far. Secrecy makes very little sense if it was just another reference to usual FRAND stuff which they mention publicly anyway?
Who knows? Maybe they don’t want to go to specific, because it would reveal info about the phone, like that it will have LTE capability or something.
Sure. Or it is something non-FRAND.
I really hope Jolla won’t fail.
Let’s be realistic.
Going head to head with Apple or google with almost nothing in hand is a dangerous risk…
Look at by this angle, their entire operation is cheaper than what Elop makes in a year.
So dangerous but not to much, and with a HUGE potential turnover.
I think one day, Jolla will acquire Nokia
Hey Jay et al – just a heads up for new site jollatides – just finished a post on ‘My Dream Jolla Mobile’ with the design based on a previous ‘Dream Nokia’ concept credit to bootroo. Help us spread the word of Jolla and thanks for preaching the gospel with your fantastic site!
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