Review: One Month On With the 808
So it’s been about a month or so since I first got the Pureview monster, the 808; here are some random thoughts on the phone: (Before we start honestly I wasn’t very fair I had first tried the 808 back at MWC so I knew what I was getting into, I never used the phone as my daily driver since I knew what it had to offer SW wise, and that wasn’t enough for me to go back to Symbian after the smoothness of WP).
First off the camera is ridiculous, there’s nothing more I can say, I suck at photography, my friends are ugly, yet our pictures come out stunning (I’ll leave the proper camera review for those more capable of it) but here’s a couple test image:
Bedside Change bucket (us bloggers are people folks):
Full res flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23218958@N05/7583770832/sizes/k/in/photostream/
Sunset in Amman (not bad if I dare say so)
Full res flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23218958@N05/7584088750/sizes/k/in/photostream/
Reese’s Cup stuffed Chocolate Chip Cookies, YUM!
Full res Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23218958@N05/7638308672/sizes/k/in/photostream/
Well what about the phone? The software on the phone itself as I’m sure most of you know is Nokia Belle FP1 the same running on all Symbian 3 phones minus the first gen of S^3 devices (that have less than 1ghz of ram); the latest updates bring some UI streamlining, A slightly improved keyboard (which still sucks), a New gallery/camera ui (only for the 808). However even after 3 major SW upgrades the phone is not without it’s bugs/set-backs, some of the exclusive to the 808: (the list is based on MY USAGE of the phone (which happened to be in offline mode), not everyone uses their phones similarly, I for one don’t use the browser much so I couldn’t care less how crappy it is)
- The gallery has no Portrait support when accessing it from the camera (not really a bug, more like a missing feature, but one that’s annoying)
- WiFi is spotty and tends to have issues
- The constant nagging of Symbian asking for confirmation every step of the way (although reduced) still pushes my buttons.
- Lack of photo sharing options, Nokia social (which is an abomination and should have been drowned upon birth) only works with a SIM card in the phone, and even then doesn’t always work, However the 808 does support “share to Flickr and FB” however for some reason every-time I’m directed to the browser to login to FB I end up in a constant loop with no solution (possibly due to my FB security measures?), the upload to Flickr does work nicely though (also there’s a newly updated Symbian app called FlickrUp that gets the job done). It may seem as I’m nitpicking on this point, but after using WP for close to a year any other photo sharing to social networks seems pathetic, and as I said, this is MY usage of the phone.
- The Keyboard: I’m pretty sure Nokia packed up shop here and moved out, it would seem they gave up on making a decent keyboard as now the keys aren’t even aligned properly, the auto-correct is a nightmare (the dictionary seems to have only 50 words); but on the plus side the haptic feedback is nice.
Is this a joke? (and before anyone mentions it I don’t like swype)
- The menu is depressing, this might sound crazy but as someone who experienced stock S^3 on the N8 first hand the menu on Symbian only brings back painful memories, as long as I avoid opening the menu I can pretend it’s different phone, but the second I want to load an app that all goes away.
- The chrome plating on the camera bump gets scratched SUPER easily, I keep my phone in a microfiber bag in a drawer yet somehow it’s gotten scratched (think metal plate on the back of the N9)
Enough with the bad, more with the good; first off the phone is gorgeous, say what you like but a phone that has to carry a bump that big and still look good isn’t an easy task, but Nokia pulled it off (it’s like when they say pregnant women “glow”), so what else?
- Once again the camera, it’s………… (whatever adjective you prefer)
- The camera UI, at least some thought went into this (actually alot did) every little detail seems planned out, even the tiny writing of “pureview” on the virtual lens (that comes up when launching the camera)
- Speaking of launching the camera, this thing is blazing fast; but we all know that right, I mean it smoked a WP…
- Multitasking on the 808 with FP1 is super smooth, one of the virtues of Symbian I guess
- Battery life!!!! You guys won’t believe this but I’ve only charged the 808 once since I purchased it (over a month ago) true it was in offline mode, but that’s with the WiFi on constantly and alot of picture taking/video recording
- Rich Recording: honestly this has got to be as an impressive feature as Pureview (if not slightly cooler) the mic pickup on this phone is crazy, I recorded a video then played it back on the phone (with Dobly studio active) through the purity headset… MINDBLOWING
- CBD AMOLED display, true it’s stuck in nHD but that’s nothing new, what is new is the awesome viewing angles you get outdoors (plus the always on screen saver, ohhh how I miss it on WP.. hopefully in WP8)
- Torch: yes the awesome flash doubling as a torch, this used to be exclusive to feature phones, well not anymore; keep the lock-screen button pressed down for 5 seconds to used the LED light as a blinding torch/flash-light
All in all the 808 isn’t THAT bad of a phone, hell it’s pretty good; but not if your one who’s about “the online”; some nags of Symbian haven’t been fixed till now and I don’t see the Nokia developer team (what’s left of it anyways) worrying too much about them. I don’t need to tell you how awesome the camera is and personally I think that’s more than enough of a reason to buy a phone (that’s why I bought mine!). But the issue lies in Symbian itself, it’s been forsaken by most (even CODeRUS the Symbian modder gave up on it), and honestly unlike the N9 there isn’t much you can do to make this phone that much better, as I mentioned in the begging I didn’t think Belle FP1 was enticing enough for me to go back to the small but annoying (yet apparently lovable) tweaks of Symbian, but if your pleased with how Symbian is by all means go buy one; you will love it. I guarantee it.
I can’t believe I have to say this but constructive comments ONLY; criticism is welcome, I love a good discussion but if you’ve come to spread your sorrow here is NOT the place.
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After coming from Symbian–> iOS–>Android–>WP back to Symbian with 808 i have to say the OS has no part of living in 2010 anymore.
That said i know what i was buying in with 808 and i love the amazing sound quality, HDMI out and camera of course, but as a OS the browser is something from 2007 and neither i see Opera competing with any default browsers of WP, Android or iOS.
WiFi is dropping all the time, those damn irritating pop up messages asking if i wanna switch that on or off, things that are automatic on WP, iOS and Android.
Symbain might have ok numbers of app but Nokia Store is still hopeless when it comes to searching apps from the sea of background pics and whatnot. WP, not to talk about iOS and Android have way wider amount of quality apps.
808 is great device but has horrible OS that in the end has had some cosmetic improvements since i left it back in 2009.
wait for belle feature pack 2 update.
i hope they fixed all of this bugs
i am not a symbian advocate (despite the fact i am using belle fp1 since no wp in my country) but ur view is not in the right place.
specially when gsmarena (which is quite fair in their reviews) say belle fp1 is quite close to ios and android in terms of usability ,smoothness and performance . the only losing element in symbian is apps. and i as a user support their statement with 4 month experience .so saying that 808 has a horrible os is quite harsh and not right at all.
also u said the os browser is like from 2007 . u apparently don’t know anything about it(maybe all u know about it is from a youtube vid or something). despite ur harsh comment about the browser,if u r an ios user or an android user i can swallow ur commnet but if u r a wp user u don’t have any right to say what u said about the browser(see my comment below which starts with u say:”i for one..” that supports my theory about the browser)
“quite close to ios and android in terms of usability ,smoothness and performance”
Allow me jump in and tell you it is nowhere near close; and you had the chance to read a few lines from my review recently here.
Point that someone is usually quite fair in reviews is a fallacy. Use the device, see it for yourself.
Furthermore, although browser may be just pumped with features – it is a fail in general usage scenarios, the thing that matters *more*.
few lines from ur review?! i don’t know who u r and i haven’t read ur review. apparently u just read few lines from my comment and jumped in to reply. and u have just put urself in the fallacy region.
first of all ,my comment was backed up by 90% gsmarena 808 review and 10% my experience
for starters, whoever u r and whatever review u wrote, i am sure gsmarena’s review (whether it’s fair enough for u or not)will be miles ahead in accuracy, conductance ,tests ,going through real live scenarios etc…. after all they r in this business of reviewing phones for more than ten years, this blog already gives a huge weight for their opinions, just look at the article before this article about gsmarena ‘s review about asha 305 and other articles in this blog covering summaries of their reviews about nokia phones including the 808
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview-review-776.php
so let’s see some of gsmarena’s statements
“Nokia’s smartphone OS, previously known as Symbian, has faded into the background of the smartphone scene, which is a shame since it finally caught up to the competition in terms of features with Belle and now we have Feature Pack 1 to polish it.”
about performance : “With the Nokia 808 PureView you really don’t notice you’re running on a single-core processor.”
about the apps thingy i mentioned above :”he app store battle is lost for the platform and in today’s market, the apps are the main driving force behind smartphone sales.”
the browser :”kia has done a great job at expanding the HTML5 support and making pages load even faster.”,
” It felt fluid and fast when we panned around a page and zoomed in and out. We didn’t really see any pages break in the browser either. Nokia has definitely brought up its browser a huge step forward thanks to the updated browser engine.”
other statements “The Symbian experience is light years ahead of what it was on the 5800 XpressMusic. The OS has caught with to the competition with numerous UI and usability updates, and it’s lightweight enough so even the 1.3GHz single-core processor of old architecture delivers a fast, fluid experience.”
apps thingy again :”There are a couple of things to consider though. Symbian is good now, but users have already moved on and the developers followed (not that devs ever got too enthusiastic about the touch-enabled Symbian). Apps are the single most important feature of a smartphone ecosystem today and Symbian is lagging behind in that department with no chances to catch up.”
my points above r completely proven now while urs don’t have any base to support. i don’t even need to add my experience to support my theory and their review.
i hope no one adds a stupid comment questioning gsmarens’s reliability or such stuff!
No silly comment’s here other than yours muhs….it seems you cannot accept other’s opinions or challenge them with any rationale.
This is laughable – “first of all ,my comment was backed up by 90% gsmarena 808 review and 10% my experience”. Does your 10% come from using in a Nokia store?. Try owning one for a while and stop paraphrasing online reviews, especially when they don’t even back-up your arguments.
I am afraid you do not quite comprehend the fallacy; as you did it again in the line: “backed up by 90% gsmarena 808 review and 10% my experience”. I will leave them (presumptions and alike) to you – as it makes no sense to engage in an argument with such (flawed) reasoning.
As practically most other reviewers (from The Verge, Engadget, SlashG, I can go on forever…) pointed out the problems that are more than apparent in general usage – I have nothing else to add but to concur, as I’ve witnessed most of them on my own. But hey, stick to what suits you. It fits. Right?
However…however, what if we read *other* reviews? But even before that, to say that the 808 PV browser (even Opera) is *fluid* is an outright *lie*. There. I am like the thousandth person to say it – using it is a torture. While the pages *do* load fast, moving across, panning, zooming…it is a horror. I am in no mood to seek the review links and tidy up nice remarks and quotes, you can do it alone, and you know well somewhere inside what I say is true.
Be it as it may, it might still be a proper device for plenty of usage scenarios to many people. Even feel fluid for someone who has not yet touched other platforms. That is all.
hmm maybe i got too emotional but look ,i am not into head on head challenging. i am not trying to say that symbian is the most fluid os that people should run for or that 808 is daddy of all smartphones. we all know that daddy smartphone is somewhere outside the nokia family running another OS. but comments(whether u or someone else) about belle fp1 was a bit harsh kinda reminds me of comparing n97 with iphone 3gs which is totally a different case. i was just saying that belle fp1 is not so far generally compared to the already old gingerbread and(let alone ics and jelly bean) or so the soon to be obsolete ios5.
(all the following is subjective)i chose gsmarena (thy r neither nokia lover nor nokia haters )because i tend to see them on the neutral side and they do conduct their test thoroughly and put the devices in real life scenario tests.unlike Engadget which is not so nokia friendly (even MNG already admits that)even if they praised pureview camera and recently nokia maps(but who oppose those two is ultimately blind ). and the verge they seem to be abit too symbian itchy.and also my experience with the device mostly runs along what gsmarena mentions.i haven’t read other sites reviews to be fair.
anyway my point is clear that i am not a blind symbian(i am jumping off it anyway) fan trying to slash anyone who opposes me.
Hi! Abt Wifi… I read lots of post abt problems with WiFi but never had one since I got my 808. These WiFi and pop-up things are very strange…. It is first phone on the market making small digital cams obsolete. Belle is not smooth but stable. It lags few times a week but not critical. UI easily modified to great extend with Belle Extra Buttons, LangSwitch + theems, Nokia Sleeping Screen, etc. Original keyboard can be replaces by SWYPE both frm store or BetaLabs with more functionality. But I prefer native keyboard and it learns fast what I want to type (I am typing faster on WhatSapp than my friends do) Battery is sure enough for 1 full day! In SW terms Belle is flexible enough! Frm hardware side advantage is 100% on Nokia side! You can not add with any update means the FM transmitter, USB on the go, HD output and last but the most Camera to any competing devise! I was waiting 4 months for 808 to come to our market and to compare it in live with S3. Finally took both in hands and in 40 minutes time took 808. Is it always helps to go to shop and physically touch the phone before you buy it! Also go to Flickr, Y-Tube and look and fotos/videos to understand capabilities of 808 and others. IMHO SIII has spent too much on marketing and less costs on R&D. They make phones too fast and same way forget their babies too fast. I choose 808 because I can Read books(ZX-reader), email, Socials, office, FM transmitter, USB on the go, navigation, browsing, Camera, HD output (will stop it by replacing TV with DLNA support for wireless streaming), SIP calling, WhatsApp. All smartphones do have most of this functionality but none has such camera! And I made my choice.
Try The One custom firmware. Phone is snappier, nag popups gone, bloat gone. Just look at the changelog: http://theonecfw.blogspot.ch/p/nokia-808-summarized-changelog.html
I’ve got three 808s on my table here, two suffer from purple tint and the other has charging issues, yet every day when I check my Lumia 800 for app updates I get no urge at all to make it my daily driver.
My thoughts on the negative points of the review:
Gallery: Fix and improvements will come soon.
Problem: Keyboard
Solution: Swype
Wifi: Can’t comment, none of the three 808s I have here have any wifi problems.
Nagging: Custom firmware
Photo sharing: Works fine for me and there’s are apps such as PicUpR and Gravity.
Chrome plating: I picked white so the camera surround is black.
I love the 808!
Ali, you have very similar view to me, however I am loving the phone as i can work round the only real issues I have (well apart from the Nokia Store and smart installer sucking and not being very smart !) But I love the UI, have everything I want and use on my home screens, so rarely go into the menu itself, not that I mind it. I really like Swype kb so have no issue with entering text and Opera gives a good browsing experience, and the native browser is actually improved, it’s just not Android,iOS improved, but honestly, how much more development do people expect from Nokia for an OS they have declared dead ? I’m using my 808 as my main phone on a daily basis and it’s doing EVERYTHING I need admirably, and of course does some things better than any other handset on the planet ! Plays video great, best Mapping/Navigation available out of the box on any phone, runs the best Twitter client available and when absolutely necessary, and if you don’t have a ‘proper’ camera available, you can take the odd snap with it if you’re desperate !! So no, you’ve not been too harsh, you’ve simply not been prepared to put in the time and effort into the phone to get the best from it, the same as many others, but why should you ? People want plug and play ie Android, iOS or Windows Phone which in most peoples opinions are more intuitive, which is why the 808 is the ‘Last Mohican’ and I am glad I bought mine and will continue to enjoy using it until it dies, people not prepared to make it work for them don’t deserve it, so boo ha to them , they are losing out, I’m not
Great comments Carmen58, now I am really looking forward to showing others what an amazing phone this is. Been talking about it, seen and read many,many comments and reviews since Feb.
Thanks carman
honestly the issue is that wp has made me lazy 
on the other hand I hated having to jump through hoops to make my n8 just a bit better, as for the camera part this is my camera, not a backup 
Great review,(if a bit brief) but to the point. Can’t wait to get my hands on this phone. I have an N8 and love the camera and video so this is a perfect upgrade!
I quite enjoy the way Symbian is so user friendly and simple.
Is the phone as a whole, better or inferior to the Lumia 900? Which should I put my money on if I loved the N8?
If you like Symbian then this Is definitely the phone for you, and as much as I love my Stormtrooper lumia 900 I’d tell you not to buy one because
A- the camera sucks
B- new wp8 devices are coming out next month no point buying now
@aliqudsi
Recently Nokia didn’t have the scale of production of WP7 devices like it did for symbian.
So it will be another three to six months delay before they can mass produce WP8 devices.They already stated they will concentrate on the specific market.So imagine if i’m situated in the market where they will rollout the WP8 devices later.
And if u considered the WP7.8 update,I still feel that buying the lumia 900 is not the worst choice.Even in its current form the features implemented are working like a charm.
BTW , How is ramadan so far?
From what I’ve heard WP7.5 devices will continue to be produced after WP8 launch, so your worst case scenario is you wait one month, you don’t see a phone you like and buy the 900 for alot cheaper. By no means is the 900 a bad choice, but it’s bad timing to buy one right now considering what’s coming.
Ramadans Awesome thanks for asking, sunset here is at like 7:40 better than some places I guess.
@aliqudsi
i hope nokia will reduce the price to midrange so that it will be accessible for wider audience.
Anyway ,if it has to dominate the midrange
it must commit to the wp7.5(7.8) for atleast year or two.
Masha allah that u r feeling great, hopefully we will see nokia turn around its fortune too!!!
Well Ali, by now all but most readers know you love Windows OS nothing new there. Nokia 808 has been reviewed many times and we all know what the drawbacks are. You suck at taking pictures that’s one unique feature of 808 and you failed. So you shouldn’t even bother to write this up.
Take this on a good stride most of the articles you write are always negative there are no constructive criticism even if its with windows os or Symbian or Meego. (don’t know why you bother writing them). Get some que from Jay he is very good.
Talk about somebody who can’t take criticism…
u said : ” I for one don’t use the browser much so I couldn’t care less how crappy it is” if ur emphasis is general on the browser( i mean u maybe mean that u don’t care how any browser can be crappy whether it’s IE9 on wp or symbian default browser),i can pass this statement.
but if u mean how crappy symbian browser is ,sorry this statement can not go under the radar. specially when u say u r now a wp user consistent user which has a weaker browser in terms of both benchmarks and features than symbian belle fp1 default browser(reviews and benchmarks about both all over the internet(ur blog has enough articles to cover my point) to prove my point).i mean in this inequality u have the lower side considering u r originally a wp user so u don’t have the right to call it crappy(the situation would have changed if u r an ios user or an android user despite the fact belle fp1 browser is not that behind ios5 or ics browsers)
btw i am not trying to oppose just for the sake of opposing!
I meant I haven’t even used the browser on the 808 so I won’t bother rmentioning it, no idea how good/bad it actually is.
i know this is off topic.but i really hope u consider doing the following in a future review. and sorry for the long post
i really hope that u compare noka wp devices and nokia symbian devices according to their audio quality in real life scenarios (ur ears and other people ears) and how much lab results of gsmarena reflect those real life scenarios (they r the only tech site how conduct audio quality tests).and how nokia wp devices affect nokia audio heritage.
also make a poll about the experience of people who jumped from a nokia symbian or an iphone(since they r the best in audio) to nokia lumia
my explanation for this :
One of the things that makes people still grab a nokia is its audio quality of its phones.according to gsmarena reviews, most of nokia symbian and even s40 devices ,since the n97 ,5800 and 5130, have one of the best audio quality experience where they can compete aggressively with the best in the business (iphone). also i found a pattern in nokia phones is that the price doesn’t affect the much in the audio quality experience.take nokia 5130 xm for instance which had the best audio quality at its time and probably still has .also look at asha phones,s^3 and belle devices audio quality tests in their gsmarena reviews (unlike most other manufacturers ,the deeper u go down with the price, the worse u get specially with samsung and htc phones)
but this is not the case with nokia wp devices, gsmarena says that lumia 710 has one of worst audio quality results, lumia 800 has a not so bad audio results but still can’t suit a flagship(at its time). but they reviewed the 800 at lunch so no one knows how the updates how much made things better. lumia 610 has an average audio results which will cut in its price range(but not on par with nokia 500 for example which has a far better audio results). and unfortunately the lumia 900 didn’t go under the audio test (don’t know why) but nokia claims that it has a better audio quality than the lumia 800
If 800 has same hardware as N9 then audio is just bad because of hardware. Nokia developers has stated that back in the days they couldn’t place better speaker into it. Maybe because of space or price.
i don’t know about that and i didn’t mean speakers,i meant audio through car stereos and headphones and the way it looks kinda like wp is the opposite of good audio quality which is not true since there r wp(still quite a few in windows phone land) devices with a very good audio quality like htc mozart
They don’t have the same SoC, completely different in many ways, one of them being the sound sub-system.*
It’s well known that the N9 was/is stronger in that area, the 900 didn’t make any changes over the 800 in that regard.
Hopefully we’ll see some improvements in that area with the 1st WP8 phones.
*dont have time to dig it all up now, nor am I subscribing to this thread (too busy
), but the detail beyond what’s on official/public Nokia sites is out there.
Just to clarify, I’m referring to the audio DSP, DAC, & analogue-out stage not the speaker config.
The speaker config. (as I recall) is “more-or-less” the same.
So, Ali, you tried to write a review of a device that you haven’t even TRIED THE WEB BROWSER?
Learn to read troll, I said this is MY USAGE! I don’t care about browser, I never said this was a full review; this is MY review, MY opinions and MY thoughts.
Are you sure that the phone hasn’t been charging when you have connected it with usb to a computer? If you do that often enough you won’t need to charge the phone separately.
Im sorry Ali but u are the last person who should review any Symbian products
leave that to the people with real knowledge like Steve Litchfield
You just bitch about everything
Oh my gaaahhh…spot on!
Steve has been using Symbian longer than any of us.. he tries hard not to be biased, but he likes Symbian too much not to be
He makes very fair points tho, and does point out the short comings.. I enjoy reading his articles.
I happened to like Symbian too, and I will probably use until the end.
i have to agree with all your points
The 808 hardware speaking is a great phone. Amazing camera and screen. Great build quality as always for nokia.
My main problem with the phone is the software. The browser is atrocious and the same applies for Opera. You dont want to browse the internet with an symbian phone unless you visit mobile only sites.
Secondly the app selection is pathetic and the few quality apps are crazy expensive.
I had problems with the wifi and wpa2 connection. Overall its a great phone for the people that enjoyed the N8 and dont care for the shortcomings of the symbian os. For all the others there will be a pureview lumia ;p
P.S: Did i tell you that the camera is AMAZING? lol
check a video of mine
I do not agree. I use the internet via opera mini and I have no complaint and got a n8. I visit a lot of websites (pc version, not mobile version). Try using opera mini instead of opera mobile.
Agree, opera mini works great on my Nokia 500. You also have the option to save the webpage so that you could read it offline, something that the stock web browser doesn’t do.
Going on almost a month here as well.
I don’t use a WP, only my N9 and 808 until I see a WP8 device that catches my eye.
I find it hard to go back to Symbian. Harmattan has a cleaner UI, but I really want to make that switch to WP8. Just hoping Nokia throws out a PureView WP8 soon.
They will, just not what you see on the 808, at least not in the first wave of WP8 devices. I might be wrong, but I doubt Microsoft can write the specific drivers for the 808 module, and test them properly in that time frame.. even tho Nokia can help them, since they’ve done the work already.. i just don’t know how much of their Symbian work can be copied/transferred to Win NT
Im pretty sure all of this insults are paid by the open source nutjob foundation.
Use pixelpipe for sharing photos, works great…
As far as the phone, its been great.. it all depends on what/how you use it, but I would say if you don’t need to change your ROM every two hours, and don’t need to re-size everything on screen every time you unlock the phone, it would work fine for 90% of the smartphone user base out there.
I find the keyboard adequate, text prediction works well, at least when typing in English.
Owh pixelpipe is still around? The last time I tried downloading it for my n8 it was no longer available. Missed it when it was gone.
Question:
is the haptic feedbacks in 808 keyboard is the same or near the n9 haptic feedbacks?…
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-900-still-has-lingering-wifi-issues
not only ali’s fav device but search on net and you will find most of the android and los devices suffering from this.
surprisingly, other blogger seem very happy with the sharing options on 808 pureview.
http://nokiapoweruser.com/2012/08/03/tips-808-pureview-can-upload-video-directly-to-youtube-from-gallery-and-sharing-of-photos-and-videos-can-be-cancelled-after-start-of-upload/
I use pixelpipe, you can find the .sis file on the net, for some reason it won’t let me post a link to it, and it really works well.. its integrated in the menu, and you can share to several web albums at the same time.
I never felt need of anything else for sharing photos on 808 PureView. In fact photo sharing on facebook is near instant.I compared with a Lumia 800 and it smokes Lumia in sharing pics to facebook. And I needed to login just once to my facebook account.
I returned my Nokia 808, if you look in the mirro and tell yourself the truth. you would too.
Camera is incredible no doubt, but sadly after Anna, Belle, FP1 updates symbian is still horrible for this modern age. I am almost starting to think Nokia’s not improving it intentionally and I know someone will say “wait for FP2″ but i doubt we will see anything significant there.
at this stage Nokia will not jeopardize WP by making symbian better, that fact is evident now with the destruction of meego, meltemi and scheduled symbian shut down.
Nokia didnt even intend to sell more than a million 808s worldwide and now demand is high they are intentionally slowing production… almost to a halt!
After all, we will see 3 WP8 Lumia phones in Sept at Nokia WOrld, and N808 is only going to disrupt its sales if released in volume.
its time to shelf Symbian in a mobile phone museum
Why is your all written articles take center piece on the home screen. There are better things to be there honestly none of your articles should be there. lol
You keep making sniping comments at Ali, however you don’t seem to be able to back it up with any meaningful contribution yourself.
Sorry if u r hurt, but its a fact why cant you check out his posts lately. I like his work but lately he is more like a whining adult. Just my opinion.
Why on earth would I be hurt? This is an internet forum, lets try and maintain some perspective.
The point I was trying to make was that there are a lot of people who are critical of Ali’s posts however offer nothing themselves (I suspect that most of these people are being critical because Ali is not a follower of the Symbian religion).
One of the great things about MNB is the ability for readers to submit articles. Perhaps if these people were to put in the effort and contribute, I would take them more seriously.
You are right though, it is your opinion and you are of course entitled to it. The world would be a boring place if we all agreed with each other.
Half-to-no-hearted review. Didn’t even bother to put a microSIM. A waste of space. The last person that should ever review a Symbian device is a WP fanatic, no matter how many N8s and N9s he owns, still a WP fanatic.
Rather that than a Symbian fanatic whining on about how great Symbian is (it could be competetive if we gave it yet another chance etc.)
This is only one more perspective on the 808, there are plenty of other reviews to help form an opinion.
Also, why should a Symbian device get special treatment when it comes to reviews? I would have thought it better to get as many differing perspectives as possible, certainly that would be more scientific instead of focusing on the positive ones, just because it suits your own agenda.
@steelicon, you have better chances of seeing a phoenix rise from an over before that happens.
I mentioned in the beginning of the post, I knew what 808 had to offer as a phone since I used it before as a phone at MWC (36 hours were more than enough in my opinion to tell that nothing much changed over the the N8)
+1000
For fuck’s sake, am I the only one that saw this in the article:
“the list is based on MY USAGE of the phone (which happened to be in offline mode), not everyone uses their phones similarly”
It’s like everyone here must expects anything Symbian to be all sunshine and butterflies. Ali’s point about the keyboard is SPOT ON. The browser is what it has always been…meh. Ali did have quite a few positive things to say. But I guess those who paint anyone who prefers WP anti Symbian will only see the negative.
+1
Very fair review Ali. I have been venturing into the “phone side” of my 808 more and more – and it has been a big mistake. The browser is especially painful, as is the keyboard. I guess Opera might help a little, but I haven’t bothered as I don’t really need to use it as a smartphone. I never really liked Opera on Symbian in the past though.
As long as I stick to the camera and the gallery and transfer photos out with cable or Bluetooth, I can love and appreciate the great hardware design, great eye-patch cover, great screen quality (nHD is fine too), great camera, fast gallery (although lack of landscape view is annoying) and OK widget screens… It is best left to these and then it shines. I carry it around all the time, as a camera. Buy it, you’ll love it as a camera that can get online in an emergency.
But try to do some Internet commenting on the thing and I’m missing my Lumia in three and a half microseconds. Writing this reply on an 808 would have literally taken me tens of minutes, where on a Lumia it’s a breeze.
I have to agree with the point you made about internet commenting.
I have just replied to two comments using my N8. It took around 20 minutes due to a combination of the poor keyboard and the fact that browser reset the page a couple of times (for no clear reason), meaning I had to re-type the entire comment again. It does make it a tad frustrating…
The 808 is a bit like a smart TV or a game console that has a web browser. The rest of the device might be fabulous for what it mostly does, but often the browsing and other such features are only good for emergencies.
For me the 808 is like these devices. It doesn’t really diminish them in my eyes either, because I don’t need them for browsing or the like, I use them for the primary use – and in the case of 808 that is the camera.
It is an added bonus that in an emergency I can use the extra features that may be slow and tedious, but are there if you really need them in a pinch.
Of course it is a sad state of affairs for Symbian that it has come from the best smartphone operating system a decade ago, to one mostly suitable for running a camera (in my opinion), but that aside… the 808 is a great, great camera.
And who cares what OS a camera runs.
Ugh Janne why do you always need +2 post to get your point across
Whenever you see an Article with plus 50 comments
you already know that Janne spam half of the thread with his crap .
But what i really hate is that These WP7 apologizers
think they are above the Symbian group , while the rest of the world is shittin on Nokia , so whats the point of puttin Symbian down ?
What’s the point of putting Symbian down?! Are you for real?!
Are you seriously suggesting that we should be critical of all other OS’s but when it comes to Symbian we should treat it with kid gloves and pretend that it is the holy grail of all mobile OS’s?
The whole point of these forum’s is to discuss Nokia in all its forms. That means casting a critical eye over ALL of its area’s of business and discussing it in a mature way.
I for one welcome Janne’s posts. These are post’s from someone who is clearly very knowledgeable and has some interesting things to share. This is regardless of any OS preference.
My only impression of your post is the constant rambling diatribe of a spoilt child who can’t get their own way.
You like Symbian, we get it. You are clearly very upset that it’s coming to the end of its road, we get it. Why do you have to be such a child about it?
“But what i really hate is that These WP7 apologizers
think they are above the Symbian group”
You are truly a pathetic individual. Your problem stems from the fact that you can’t stand the fact that someone out there actually likes (and prefers) WP. In your myopic view of the smartphone world, you don’t think anyone who happens to like WP has any valid points regarding Symbian. The fact of the matter is that Ali owns and has actually used Symbian and MeeGo devices and is telling his experiences with them. Can you say the same?
The fact that you just called a guy a “pathetic individual” just because he likes and prefers a symbian phone just shows how fucking weak you are!
This also means that hey if I like a symbian that I’m also pathetic like this guy right? even though that I’m still using a fucking NOKIA Symbian Phone!
What the fuck gives you the right too call someone pathetic just because they prefer something you hate? Everyone has their own tastes and for me and thousands of people out there WP is not ready for us because it is not similar to symbian that used over all these year and got used to!
What a load of shit. I NEVER said he was a pathetic individual because he prefers Symbian. Learn to read asshole. I said he’s a pathetic individual because he “can’t stand the fact that someone out there actually likes (and prefers) WP.” I can care less if someone likes Symbian. It’s an awesome platform (and the most feature complete to boot).
“What the fuck gives you the right too call someone pathetic just because they prefer something you hate?”
Where did I EVER say I hated Symbian? Show me. I DARE you. My animus toward jeroenhuismast lies strictly from the fact he can’t accept a Nokia WP device exists and there ARE people out there who actually like it. After all, we are talking about an individual that wished WP users would “die a slow painful death like MS.”
jeroenhuismast:
There is a grand total of two (2) messages from me in this comment thread (until this reply), from a total of 66.
Until this reply, there are more messages from you in this thread than from me.
As for putting Symbian down, that is not my intention at all. I am putting in context and in that context (which is my opinion), it’s utility is limited, but when it comes to mobile cameras today – reality is, Symbian is running the hottest, best one.
I’m waiting for him to spin your response as “proof” that you are:
1. a WP apologist
2. a Symbian hater
Some people around here have a hard time differentiating between preferring certain aspects of a particular platform and being a “hater” of other platforms.
Well, it’s not a surprise, Symbian is a horrible OS, anyone who has tried any other modern OS knows this.
808 is also severely overprice, $250 at most is it’s price.
808 would make a great secondary/car phone. Phone, GPS, Camera. That’s all it can do well.
Cod3rror – my life is empty without your wisdom.
LOL!
So! After reading all posts I see that major complaint of Nokia marketing people is BROWSER! (I say so because believe that Nokia itself pays money to destroy Symbian due to agreement with MS). Do people really browse so much on a tiny screen? I myself use WAP sites for reading news because they are add-free, black-and-white, easy to read without disturbing fotos and other blinking things, some RSS feeds… Very rarely brows full scale sites… Most of websites are adopted to mobile devices and see no problem browsing them with native or Opera browsers.
People give me some examples where browsing becomes lethal failure of 808? Describe a task which needs to be performed to understand problems with browser..
I believe mobile device should be fit for mobile browsing… PC type browser can be OK for something with size of Galaxy Note at least.
Frankly speaking I do not see problems with browsing…
Ali, you speak the truth!
My only complaint: I’m ‘trying’ to stick to my diet, but you just had to go and post a pic of cookies
Now I’m thinking about looking up the recipe for those yummies on the internet. I wonder if there is any chance that there will be a fat-free version?
Hahh thanks man, you think sticking to a diet is hard? try making them while fasting
I don’t think there’s a fat free version considering how their codename is “diabetes”
Symbian works for me .. I wouldn’t change for anything else right now. And the phone is very practical, it does everything I need from a smartphone..
I know Nokia’s CBD Amoled displays are awesome! Curious to know who supplies them with amoled panels? is it Samsung?
NOKIA had various AMOLED suppliers like Chimei, AUO, TPO, but it is somewhat safe to assume that in 2012 the main supplier for AMOLED would be Samsung.
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/pages/Nokia-900-Carries-Bill-of-Materials-of-$209.aspx
That would be a different AMOLED for the Microsoft Lumia 900 but I have yet to see a “complete” teardown of the Nokia 808 PureView.
So that link “partially” answers your concern.
Ali, you mentioned you only charged your 808 ONCE IN A MONTH of use. That in itself PROVES that you haven’t used the device enough for a review. Even without a SIM.
This is a hobbyist blog. I for one appreciate the fact that hobbyists don’t always have time for full reviews or things like that, they post what they can and what they’ve experiences in an informal manner. It is a very valuable service, for free, done free.
I think your expectations may be a little too high. I’d rather Ali post his incomplete views, that are his experiences, than not post at all. There is room for opposing experiences of course, too.