Nokia 311 launched in India for Rs. 7139 (now at Rs. 6559)
Fone Arena reports that the hot Nokia Asha 311 (full touch, capacitive S40) is available for Rs. 7139.
By direct conversion it’s about 129USD or 82GBP.
It seems looking at India Times Shop, the price has already gone down to 6559 INR (118USD/75GBP)
http://nokia.indiatimes.com/nokia/touch-screen/nokia-asha-311-dark-grey-/10011/p_B10813
Source: Fone Arena
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At INR 7000 it is not competitive. 5800-6300 wud have been much better.
exact price of the device is INR 6450/-.
but may vary Retailer to retailer…
Any price is not going to be competitive for you, I guess.
Nokia has a tendency to launch phones at a higher price than they’re worth. The Lumia 710 is the only phone to quickly hit a really good price point, and the Asha line needs to have that even more.
Cool deal! for that price.
Interesting to see such diverging views on the price.
I gather it will soon be available around the $100 mark. Wonder how much weight buyers will give to the data saving features?
Problem with Nokia at these (India/Pakistan like) regions, that they do advertise heavily but they don’t do Effective advertisements to tell these benefits such as data cost saving and so on. Young people are like how they are on other parts of the world, they pick what is “HOT” out there. Number of APPs, Megapixels, Gigahrtz, all those fancy terms to fool consumers effect same on them. Unless of course someone stand up and actually tell them the differences and not many are doing it, including reviewers. Most of the ^professional^ or ^expert^ reviewers are best at being their worst.
Now that’s a good line,best at being their worst, I’ll write that down. As soon as expansysusa gets one in white or amazon, I’m a buyer.
its rs6200 in retail stores of india
There you go! Already close to the $100 mark.
not a good price considering galaxy pocket retail for same price along with other array of android devices from local makers like micromax,karbon etc.also htc explorer and LG L3 is just few grands up.customers would prefer a low end smartphone over high end dumbphone these days
I think looks are the first thing they go by. Most people I talk to, as long as you can message, email or call…thats it. If the average number of apps is 8 that they download then I think it really is looks. How many times does Jay say people want that apple sign on the back? They really do not know what it can or can’t do.
Also, those cheap androids are not running the modern android versions.
So effectively the performance of those cheap smartphones is same or worse than the high end dumbphones.
but those cheap androids has lots of advantage.
1.apps are much better than crappy java apps
2.easy to tweak,modify,etc with custom roms.
3.browser far better
4.multitasking
5.it laids a direct upgrade path to a high end android device
6.people who buy these low end androids are the ones who upgrade from s40 and s60v5.so it will be heaven for them.
7.android is not going to stuck in that crappy specs for ever this year iyself we will see power packed android phones with ics/jellybean at cheap price.
8.it will take windowsphone 8 far lonher time to reach the price point of these cheap droids.even if nokia put dualcore processor ,2gb ram and hd screen for asha it will still considered and will always be a dumbphone.
9.symbian a smartphone os totally failed in counter theses low end droid army.how on earth a dumb os like s40 is going to take on droids.
I’m not sure about the browser… Android browser is more feature-packed, but the S40 Nokia Web browser is actually faster on slow connections (EDGE and many cases even basic 3G) thanks to data compression and that feature is of course a plus for anyone without an unlimited data plan.
Comparison to Symbian is also not really relevant, since Symbian has a much stronger reputation of being not very user friendly. Belle arrived too late to change that and of course C5 series S60v5 phones continued to sell alongside the C6-01 and 500, which didn’t do a service for Symbian’s reputation either.
Android apps are also in Java and who tells u java app are crappy the wworld of enterprise business software runs on Java… before making such stupid comments get some education dude….
Now let me answer u point to point…
1. .apps are much better than crappy java apps
me-> partly yes partly no how many cool android apps will run on the cheaper android machines not all… and nokia has done great with asha getting major app attractions.
2.easy to tweak,modify,etc with custom roms.
me-> Are u stupid u may be a geek 90 pc ppl buying are not who does a ROM level customisation or tweak nokia is a consumer electronics company and the business is not to feed guys like u with tweaking of ROMS.
3.browser far better
me-> again depends u may use opera or the default but default is superb given the amazing cloud based data compression.. lets wait fcor next version.
4. multitasking
me-> wait i have posted multiple times… Nokia over the years have ignored the basic series 0 platform and thanks to Mr. Stephen Elop they have a renewed mission for the platform the goodies are yet to come.
5.it laids a direct upgrade path to a high end android device
me-> is it a joke that never works in the android market place and never worked for the mighty nokia’s s0-> s60 transition for customers no it s not a 100 pc workable solution.
6.people who buy these low end androids are the ones who upgrade from s40 and s60v5.so it will be heaven for them.
me-> how do u know that they may be moving from BB low end ones to samsung low ends to any x y z.. device… in terms of fetures and polish asha full touch offers trillion times better package than competing androids.
7.android is not going to stuck in that crappy specs for ever this year iyself we will see power packed android phones with ics/jellybean at cheap price.
me-> although hardware prices are going down but not so fast as u dream so wat u say seems very unlikely in very near term where these ashas will compete but still its kind of wait and watch.
8.it will take windowsphone 8 far lonher time to reach the price point of these cheap droids.even if nokia put dualcore processor ,2gb ram and hd screen for asha it will still considered and will always be a dumbphone.
me-> first dont write that haha it sounds like u copied from the devil tomi’s site ha ha wat a crap… all new gen smart phone OS es like iOS, Windows Phone 8 , Android and even Meego are designed to give u a PC like experience an djust dig some technicalities they all have a stripped down desktop version core kernel unlike symbian os which was designed with limited hardware design and was written for devices which are phones first.. all have their merits and hence enjoyed successes when they were at peak… but now times have changed and symbian architecture design is not so required as we move towards PC in pocket rather than phones with PC functionality…so ofcourse with all these latest and greatest new OSes it will take time… but asha will be considered always a dumb phone makes me think u as dumb…it is all about functionalities and the Asha OS it moving in that direction.. yes now i prefer to call it OS…
9.symbian a smartphone os totally failed in counter theses low end droid army.how on earth a dumb os like s40 is going to take on droids
me-> either u r a small kid or some weird guy who understands nothing
reasons for symbian failing are multiple…
the os has been out there since 90′s and the insane huge code base was hard to maintain.
the os lacked the polish of ios and android was a poor man’s ios alternative and the feb 11 so on that a whole book can be written on the rise and fail of a once dominant Symbian OS… that brings me to ur last part of comment how series 440 will counter r u blind can’t u see the UI changes the feature set enhancements the rebranding efforts the enhanced hardware specs and all
Finally a 3G phone with wifi full touch fantastic fetaures like capacitive touch gorilla glass, EA games flashy new UI and all in the asha 311 priced at INR 6500 is a killer and all with the still trusted Nokia Brand will be killer…
lets remeber the transition of familiarity is less successful than transition to unfamilair lands thats human.
10.bet on this asha 311 will not have a fraction of sale of galaxy y is having.
people simply dont care about it.dude just goto a retailer and simply ask the salesmen when given an option between a high end dumb phone and low end android what 99% customers prefer.
*by java i mean .jar or whatever format app s40 uses its crappy admit it.and ive learned java programming,so dont behave like a know it all.
Lol Prasenjit …. before writing this essay u have to do a simple thing just go to a retailer near you and simply ask , whats happening with Nokia phones and Samsung android army …!!
you will get all your questions answered …. good luck
galaxy y even cant compete to nokia 5233,30
Manu I am not behaving as I know all as I really don’t know it all but spending time in the industry and working on those solutions give u a better edge while making certain educated comments.
.JAR ffiles are the way u deploy java files not .sisx that is meant for native symbian…. java apps re crappy then so are android.
while comparing series40 and series60 version 5 makes no sense thats lunatic…. some one said not sell half of galaxy Y okay we will wait and see… by the way none of ur comments or wishes point to u guys being nokia fans anyways still we will see….
there are also a bunch of trolls here die hard symbian fans but i bet they half dont know about the OS except ffor its symbian
but will cry symbian symbian and belle is best even if on sep 5 u see a asha with fetaures better than belle… i support one guy in AAS who commented and it was like s40 achieved in months what symbian took one failed version s0v5 and 2+ years with 3 updates to finally reach in terms of UI polish and user friendliness in the touch screen era.
the guy FLOP said java is crap well tehn all the devices u suggested are crap too cause android is nothing but JAVA on top of linux kernel…
Manu whwn u stress on that word dumbphone it reminds me of a fool who will stay at a palace and still cry its hut its hut why because ur brain is conditioned that way open up ur mind clean the baggage of past and first set what ur priorities are are u a nokia fan,can u realise the market dynamics and wat u are fighting for…. ust cause u say its dumb it ain’t dumb…. btw market reserach are ptedicting huge sales surge for lowend nokia phones in india thanks to asha portfolio.
What do you mean features better than belle? So we’ll see an asha phone in the 5xx series? I think it will be upgraded with multitasking as you have previously mentioned.
@Prasenjit Singh Bista im so sorry if ive offended you.but im just wondering what exactly is nokia’s strategy it looks like
S40 for 1000-9000rs
Wp 7.8 10000-27000rs
Wp 8 27000rs above(if cheapest wp8 runs on krait snapdragon s4)
The strategy seems quiet lame.it will take over a year maybe two for wp8 to reach 9000rs price range.wp7.8 is considered dead like symbian now
Also for case of s40 ya it improved but just like symbian has the reputation of a bad os s40 will always consider a dumbphone os,nokia need to bring it to the level of atleast that android wannabe bada add support for better hardware especially gpu,good quality apps etc.there seems to be a lot of work but time is less.why on earth they dropped meltemi and didnt promoted symbian belle,both should have been a better option over s40.
@Manu First of all I do not do portfolio planning for Nokia so i can not comment on how portfolio will shape up. But what I can ofcourse talk about and the facts that are in public domain that Nokia will continue to evlove windows 7.8 in near future as u must be aware of the same ploy works for android OEMS and included in list are devices like samsung galaxy Y and so that u posted earlier. Nokia and MSFT will bring on windows 7.8 to lower prices dont worry that will happen and most probably devices cheaper than lumia 610..
whats funny is windows phone 8 is a premium smartphone OS where nokia fights top end and ofcourse this device will easy scale up between 16000 to 30000 with decent profit given the BOM for 2nd gen lumia devices…
so 2 pieces that i out right reject from ur latest post are
Wp 7.8 10000-27000rs
Wp 8 27000rs above(if cheapest wp8 runs on krait snapdragon s4)
wp 7.8 will be between 11000 to 20000 overlapping with lumia windows 8 that may go up to 32000 if nokia brings more USPs like pureview etc but the BOM can be outright scaled down.
For one moment forget 7.8 version even windows 8 basic hw requirement lets u make cheaper phones on scale and the game will slowly change as u bring on more silicon vendors in the mix…..
Symbian dead or not dead is up to you for me its not dead and what we sud expect to see in future is nokia scaling down production as per demand to meet only the realistic demands but dont be surprised wwith occasional surges as with 808 pureview and ofcourse Nokia will support symbian for years atleat till 2016 through accenture. Nokia’s commitment and loyalty to symbian is more than what they had or have for meego.
Symbain has a bad reputation atleast if u are a technical guy u sud not say so the OS earned bad name after s0 v5 debacle else it was the federer of smartphone world and gave so many classic hits as i write this the n95 sits next to me was that a shiit if symbian was so bad a OS…
symbian struggled in transition to touch screen and believe me so will ur iOS and Android if they were to age 15+ years with some 600-700 million LOCs and were moving from touch for what they are designed to keypad or something else. Symbain 3 was huge they did that finally and belle brought the polish but as Elop will tell u yes it took insane time and then got a bad name as u said but still there are tons of people who love this OS and they have all reasons to cheer for the devices may lag at time may not have flashies UI and trillions of apps but whether its N8 or the 808 or 701 they are killer on features whether software or hardware and are multimedia beasts….
series 40 is bad i have never heard any one say so but years of neglect kept it lacking in features and platform capabilities but the point is see how easy and elegant it is to develop the s40 and thats where nokia is investing …. when u say symbian has a bad name and s40 is considered dumb two are different altogether one is criminal and one is conisered idiot are the two guys same…
people are not fool they will look at the enhanced capabilities they have eyes and ears and will feel and experience the s40 and decide for that… not every ram shyam reads mnb or aas but they have their capabilities to make and take decisions …
With ASHA in the coming months and weeks u will see huge branding efforts and all your concerns around the public perception of s40 will be addressed.
BADA thats a joke please dont even consider that in this discussion. Android wana be Nokia already has huge installed base with s0 and java developers. You say why meltemi was dropped because they realised it was a crap could not fight on spec and BOM and was basically another meego that needs money to build a ecosystem… with s0 u have a head start but with the meltemi u need to start from scratch build a ecosystem and when u are so skeptical of s40 wat makes u think meltemi wud have saved… reading others blogs and posts and reading x yz from ex employees is another and reality is always different… meltemi is simply no solution else nokia wud not have had to go and buy smarterphone OS….
The momentum around s40 has just started building up and have some patience to see what they end up doing with it.. there are many apps first take a look and many more will follow … being a java platform gives it lots of flexibility and then there’s some elements of surprise that will open up in due time.
Symbian belle promotion wat do u mean by that it really confuses me Nokia is still selling tons of those hardware bt try to understand they have bet their future on windows phone….and finally that also answers that long term development of meltemi simply puts that strategy in red as then wats the point in developing a meego called meltemi thats not meego..
I think it’s very easy to understand and accept that Nokia is now s40, symbian and windows… their main focus is windows and symbian support through accenture that allows them a lean opex to fight back with renewed focus on s40 untill there’s last cent of profit left in that segment and then all together move out of that…
S40 is fail, how you’re not aware of that is beyond me…
It will lose longer-term, the transition to Meltemi was all about avoiding that.
What current management’s done by ditching it & keeping only S40 is ensure that WP/Android can be slotted-in when S40 begins to falter. That’s why Meltemi had to go, it was too much of a threat for WP longer-term.
Just watch how everything evolves over the next 2yr+*, the fullness of time will prove me to be right.
*assuming Nokia hasn’t been sold or taken over etc.
series 40 serves a purpose a targeted audience a transition and i can not comment beyond that period …
nothing was threat for windows phone okay how u dont understand is now beyond my comprehension. meltemi was a replacement for what???? for that some one needs to come up with what actually meltemi project could achieve…. if i sum up it was a failure where some guys tried to repackage maemo/meego as meltemi… thats not what nokia needs they have said point blank no Linux no new OS … its windows in present and future and symbian support as it has significant market share and installed base…
well android nokia will never ever use it.. Time will prove u correct… u are saying at 9pm after 8 hours there will be day yes it will be thats why i wrote
series 40 serves a purpose a targeted audience a transition and i can not comment beyond that period …
Funny how you people grossly overestimate MS feeling “threatened” by anything Nokia was doing or going to do. MS are threatened by Apple and Google. Nokia and Qt didn’t really register. Stop flattering yourself.
@Flop did u say gorilla LOL
anyways sis is the symbian installation format for native symbain OS code for native apps written in C++ no matter symbian C++ or Qt but java apps will be deployed thru JAR no matter symbian or s40 or sony ericcsson or android or windows desktop or wat ever…. I dont know how java on sony ericcson becomes better than nokia yeah uality or UI can be issue but how the language starts becoming good on 2 diff OEMs is beyond my knowledge i am guessin that was a joke right?? Java is a standardised language not some C version where u have a VC++ a symbain C++ and apple will have obective C no man Java does not works that way…
By the way the huge hatred i can feel in the heart of u guys is real funny then that brings up the question why not hate android why ????
whats wrong in a java platform what makes it stink…
@lordstar: as i said s40 is due for huge overhaul u have seen only a fraction of what will come in due course if they execute and not change all of a sudden but expect big things from the guys and well whether it will be a xx series i dont know
Well alright then, the 311 is a step i the right direction though it needs a little more improvements to directly compete and really be a contender against cheapo androids.
what is the need of blaming android it controls nearly 60% market.android may not be best but its jack of all trades master of none,its something like bajaj pulsar bike competition might have better quality offering but pulsar just ticks in all boxes and continue to sell 5 times more than competition.anyway coming topic
1.ive read an interview of elop in which he mention about continuing wp7.8 to bring cheap smartphones for developing nations.so is there any chance of 7.8 getting features like bluetooth ft,mass storage mode,sd card support etc.?(if you are from india you might know how important these features are here
)
2.android is something like a modern symbian offering almost all features it offer (some of them above mentioned)+ lots of apps,customisation,eye candy etc more than symbian.so how exactly nokia can get back lost or losing customers to wp 7.8 or s40.(wp8 is good .but keeping it out of question since its a premium smartphone os)
Yes Manu I am an Indian and yes i agree BT file transfer is critical..SD is also and they are coming but ofcourse side loading of songs etc may still be controlled.
well with times we have to accept some changes don’t we… now if u want exact copy of what u had in symbian in windows that’s not possible they are diff OS from diff vendors still nokia is bringing so many features… windows phone presents a whole new UX… u still have option to explote symbian or windows the choice is urs and Nokia + accenture will bring more improvements to symbian…
But also the new OS.. wp 8 and wp 7.8 as well as nokia updates will solve many of ur concerns but still they are diff and u sud accept a few differences…
HOw they get customers to 7.8 or s40 are low end lumia and substantial price drop of 1st gen lumia , phones cheaper than lumia 610 and those will run 7.8… the low end fight will be with asha phones like asha 311 and even better s40 updates
the 311 is almost the same price here as the galaxy y. with the exception of more apps on the Y, the 311 is better spec-wise and has a nicer UI (IMO).
considering 100s of launchers available at playstore having a better u.i is not a major advantage
yeah, those launchers will do wonders at keeping the already resource-constrained low-spec android turds running smoothly!
/s
even though im a nokia fan i agree with you.id rate phones like this
Symbian belle >Low end android>>>s60v5>>>>s40
I feel sorry for you guys needing to buy any of that shit. S40 phones and some cheap ass Android phones.