First WP8 OTA update rolling out. Lumia WP8 owners waiting for v10211

| December 11, 2012 | 75 Replies


WPCental reports that an update to WP8 OTA is appearing live on the HTC WP8 device. This update fixes a bug to allow persistent WLAN connection when display is off as well as “SMS Call Reject, SMS Drafts and SMS Select all have been added to the OS”

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  • Toni

    Any idea why no updates to Lumia devices as of yet?

    • Start of Fragmentation in Windows Phone.

      WP 7, WP 7.5, WP 7.8, WP 8…. to be continued….

      Happy Microsoft users….

      • KeiZka

        I take you are enjoying your Gingerbread, then? It is festive season, after all.

        • Sorry, I am happy with my N9…

          • Mark

            Nah. You wouldn’t feel compelled to post in WP topics if you were.

            U jelly, bro? I think you’re jel.

          • So happy with your N9 you feel the need to rain in on other people’s parade. Good for you bro, good for you.

            • Tomi

              The sounds of bitterness…

              • KeiZka

                I daresay those who come here to throw a tantrum over a future not realised are the bitter ones, not those who actually try to enjoy what is being offered.

                • arts


                • MOOking

                  trying is basically forcing LOL….sucks for you

      • Andre C

        Yeah, four fragments:

        256 MB WP7
        512 MB WP7
        512 MB WP8 (Although, the number of apps that require more than 512 MB memory is very very small.)
        1 GB WP8

        Meanwhile, in android’s camp, there are so many fragments that counting them is pretty much impossible.

      • Patata

        and bringing only features that could be brought to WP7.x too without problems…that much about “only features that are hardware related will be WP8 exclusive” anyone who ever believed that, doesn’t know that much about MS and how they handle those things 😉

      • Fossi

        As far I am aware wp 7 is non existent, all wp 7 devices are updated to wp 7,5.. and all wp 7,5 are gonna be updated to 7,8

      • Janne

        …and we have never, ever waited for Symbian or MeeGo updates to span the globe, operators and device variants? 😉

        Come on. Let’s use the word fragmentation properly. Look for Andre C to use it right.

      • stylinred

        are there any devices that aren’t getting the upgrade to 7.8 from 7.5?

        • Harangue

          Jup, LG’s WP devices and I also guess that Dell isn’t going to do it for their Venue Pro. Let’s not forget certain carrier devices in the US, they probably won’t get 7.8 anytime soon at least.

          • stylinred

            ah i see

      • Mark

        Yes, I am happy, thanks.

        Far more than I ever was with Symbian.

        Now do me a favour and go and slam your fingers in a door, k?

        • Dr.Smart

          I think you are the funniest man in this blog. And considering all the lunnies, that’s quite an achievement methink.

      • You’re clearly a fool. How are “WP 7, WP 7.5, WP 7.8” fragments? Every device that ran WP 7 will get WP 7.8 (except LG, for their own fault). An upgrade is not a fragment

        • You’d see the fragmentation if you arent short sighted… But time will teach you… Thats how Microsoft works…

      • torcida


        WP8 is “Windows NT 6.2” just like Windows 8 and has nothing to do with the previous WP-OS!!

        • alai

          Restrictions, errors (for example wifi), lack of apps, stupid UI (I like it but it’s really inconsistent, I never know what happen when I press back button). I’m using a Lumia 800 but N9 is still much better. I think Ms will never make WP competitive system to the android, symbian or meego. Their goal is simple – earn money the same way as apple earns money. They have no other ideas.

      • mJ23

        well wp 7 can be upgraded to wp 7.5 then to wp 7.8 . so most users would probably be updated , just not to wp 8 . but if i were people , i’d go for a wp 8 device .

      • Bob


        There is only 7.8 and 8.

        That is all.

    • Peter L

      OTA updates will always pushed in phases where some devices get updates sooner than others. This time it seems to be HTC 8X that will get the update first, Lumias will follow soon after.

      • Harangue

        Also, there is a chance Nokia will roll some Lumia specific updates in with the update and therefor it might take a little longer for Lumia’s to get the update.

        • kunwar


          what htc got was only the OS update , what nokia might do is rollout the OS and a nokia specific firmware to make nokia apps more better.

          I think it wud take a week or 2 for the lumias to get these updates

          • Andrew_b

            I like the optimism!

    • Zipa

      MS probably wants to test the OTA process first, and since there are *a lot* less users with an HTC that was likely a good test platform.

      • nabkawe


      • Well, in that case they should have pushed an update to all the AtiV S’ out there. That way no customer would be harmed by a faulty update

        • Canbacon


          Honestly, pushing out to the Ativ first wouldn’t be worth it, too small of a user base. It makes sense that maybe Nokia is bundling a patch into the system update.

  • sdf

    fp2.1 for the belle please

    • Paul Grenfell

      Why? Whats it lacking? Mines ok.

      • stylinred

        still bugggy

        • shallow ocean shoal

          The stop-receiving-text-messages-until-reboot is still horrifying people. It has affected both my 808 and 700. It’s HORRIBLE.

          • Mapantz

            I suffered from this badly but in a sightly unusual way.
            I had been using a custom firmware for weeks and i didn’t have any problems with receiving sms’s when quite a few people (on here) were reporting issues on their 808’s. I then saw the sms update in the Nokia suite and updated and that’s exactly when the problems started. I was sending messages to a friend asking if he was coming out for a beer ‘tonight’ and he would reply, but i got nothing until 36 hours later, i rebooted my phone and i was getting bombarded with messages!
            I’ve since changed to another custom firmware and i haven’t installed the sms update this time and all is working perfectly.
            Work that one out! :O

          • Spede oli aliarvostettu

            I don’t know about that one but my 808 keeps freezing from time to time. This is probably because Symbian is still too buggy.

            There was never any possibilities for Nokia to be competitive with this OS. It’s simply too buggy. The transition to the WP was messed up but giving up on Symbian was one of the best decisions Nokia has made in years. Unfortunately they should have switched OS long time before 2011.

            Back in 2010 or 2009 they had only one viable alternative and that was Android. But no, they were too arrogant at the time. They had to be the one to invent their own solution while they were not capable of doing that. It was the time of the NIH syndrome.

  • Peter L

    I wonder if this is a new way to do updates from Microsoft, instead of doing one big update every 6 months or so, doing several small updates every time something gets done.

    I’m sure there will eventually by an update called Windows Phone 8.5, but if these minor frequent feature patches become a permanent thing, I like it.

    • Janne

      First bigger update for WP7 was “NoDo”. It was a little bigger than this (copy-paste was the big feature add) but it was still 7.0. Lumia 800 also received many firmware updates right after launch. I’m not necessarily seeing anything different here, but who knows.

      • jk

        By the way, I have never used copy n paste once during 2 year. What an important feature.

        • Peter L

          What is not important to you does not mean that it’s automatically not important for everyone else too.

          I don’t get what’s the point of these kind of statements.

          • nabkawe

            How did u copy links? Do u have a photographic memory? If so we’re not as blessed as you so stop shooting down a feature introduced

  • BlazinEmperor

    FP2 buggy? I doubt! Unless it’s an 808. I just want the old photo/video editor back on my 701, with ability to take pics with the front cam & maybe a hardware accelerated browser with better plug-ins & rendering engine.

    • shallow ocean shoal

      Swype STILL does not work right with FP2. What is taking them so long? They have stated that they are working on fixing it.

  • Sonny

    Of topic but i just saw the review of the asha 306 on gsmarena and all the asha’s has excellent loudspeaker performances! Why cant nokia do this on their lumia’s?

    • kunwar

      and asha 311 has an LED notification light in its silver plate between the call end and call pick button and they cant bring it to WP

      • Janne

        They could implement a notification light in WP, they have just chosen not to. (Other manufacturers have done this with WP.)

        Lumia 620 also, by early marketing comments, seems to have a loud loudspeaker. I guess this is in line with targeting the youth with both Asha and Lumia 620.

        • Sonny

          youth or not I feel if they have such an awesome innovation as rich recording they need to at least have some awesome speakers on the device as well

          • Janne

            I agree, just speculating on why Nokia does it like this.

            • Tomi

              Because they have no choice….

            • Tomi

              It is all about ms now. It os a bitty!

              I have used 920. The camera is the only thing why you should consider that machina. N9 is still superior in every manner you do with your phone.

  • torcida
  • rustyknight17

    Hoo boy , 2 updates within a few weeks of wp8 coming out ? nOT GOOD , i THINK ! That implies that either WP8 has rather a lot of bugs or it was a rush job . either way , not good …

    • KeiZka

      Or, on the other hand, they just want to enhance the user experience further by trimming the software here and there, to get it more efficient.

      Half empty vs half full. It’s all about point of view.

      • rustyknight17

        Enhancing is what it`s about either way . The problem here is the timing . I`ve seen similar situations before ( WM 6.5 springs to mind ). Phones usually do not require updates in their first few weeks ! THe 808 is a great example ! If they do require updates in the first few weeks , it`s usually an indication of issues in the OS , serious ones as a rule .. Given that WP is still immature ( it takes 3 years to work enough of the bugs out and enough features in , to make a new OS reliable . ) , and that WP8 IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM wp7 , I`d bet there r significant issues ! Cheers!

        • arts


        • Pökö

          Phones usually DO require updates in their first few weeks (specially with new OS) but manufacturers haven’t been too fast to provide these updates.
          What we are now seeing is unbelievable fast response from them (from Nokia, from MS) so I just wonder how some douchebags try to turn this out to be something negative. Shame on you.

          • rustyknight17

            They do ? Guess I`ve been exceedingly lucky then !
            I`ve been dealing with smartphones for 5 years ( HTC Excalibur , Htc Snap , BB Curve 8900 , HTC HD2 , MyTOUch 3 G slide , G2 , N8 , 701 , C6-01 , Lumia 710 ) and the only one of them that required updating in the first few weeks was the HD2 , notorious for it`s issues , which were NS`S fault but that`s Another POst …

        • Muerte

          Ever heard of hotfixes? Why wait for a SP-release, if you can do small improvements OTA whenever? I can’t understand your logic, sorry. I’ve never been able to depreciate updates.

          Could you please elaborate on “significant issues”?

          • rustyknight17

            Hotfixes sure , but in the first few weeks after its launch ? That`s not good ! A few months , yeah , that`s understandable , but the issue here is the timing . As I remarked above , if a phone in its first few weeks requires updating , that usually means IME that there r issues with the OS . Not even the N9 had those kinds of problems and it was the first commercial Meego device !
            As for significant issues , I presume u refer to WP8 ?With the caveat that WP is not yet mature , I `ve come across quite a few reports of the super sensitive screen working erratically to say the least , and further , that the hotfix for this has caused quite a few wp8 phones to die ! I`d certainly call that significant ! Also many reports of battery life issues ! Cheers !

        • flava

          Release first, and polish it later. It’s more efficient to let your customers participate in bug reports. That’s what Google been doing since forever in case you didn’t notice.

          Anyway early hotfix is always a good thing, ever play PC game? Good devs always release hotfix(s) in first few weeks/months to iron out the bug, glitch, or whatever you call it, to improve and polish the game even for little.

          Looks like many big players disagree with your logic 🙂

          • rustyknight17

            Months yes , a few weeks not so much ..

  • JGrove303

    I would appreciate the breathing light from my N8-00 to be implemented on the Lumias as LED notification.

    • I´d seriously love that, just have the home button light up or flicker when there is a message or whatever. But I don´t think the buttons can light up individually.

  • Charles

    Wallpaper and notification centre is all I ask

  • Sonny

    can anyone confirm how the audio quality of the 920 through headphones compare against the n8? I’m kinda second guessing now that gsmarena said that its average?

    Does anyone know if Nokia will release a new lumia next year at CES or MWC?

    • KeiZka

      Depends heavily on headphones. Quality is excellent on my shure in-ears, at least. YMMV.

  • Antero

    Us Nokia users are used to waiting. The update will probably be available soon. Soon meaning Q2 / Q3 2013 (my guess).

    • flava

      LOL looks like you’re still living in the past at symbian era. :))

      • Antero

        I was being sarcastic. Hopefully this update will find its way to L920 soon (soon meaning within Q4 2012 😉

        Btw: my last Symbian device was E61i.

        • rustyknight17

          Hmm , so u wouldn`t know about S3 Anna , or Belle devices . I`ll remember that for possible future reference lol !
          What do u use now , if I may ask ?

  • MOOking

    all i saw was a wall of annoying stuff…and colour….next OS please

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