Elop On an Android Nokia Phone: “Anything Is Possible” [Updated]
In an interview with Gizmodo Stephen Elop let some surprising words out, when asked about the possibility of a Nokia Android phone in the future he said “Anything is possible”; just that there probably won’t be one right now
Do you discard launching an Android phone next year?
Elop: In the current ecosystem wars we are using Windows Phone as our weapon. But we are always thinking about what’s coming next, what will be the role of HTML 5, Android… HTML5 could make the platform itself—being Android, Windows Phone or any other—irrelevant in the future, but it’s still too soon [to tell]. Today we are committed and satisfied with Microsoft, but anything is possible.
This is in complete contrast to Elop’s usual statements that they are completely dedicated to Windows Phone platform and have no intention of branching out; instead now Elop is basically saying that Nokia will be willing to jump ship should the need arise, or once they gain enough market-share you might see an Android Windows phone. Also asked about their current goals he replied:
I can’t give figures, but the first objective, without giving any dates, is getting a double-digit marketshare. Then, keep pushing and establish an equilibrium with the other two big ecosystems, Apple and Android.
Note that he didn’t say get Windowsphone to a double digit marketshare, but he’s talking about Nokia alone…..
I personally wouldn’t actually hate an Android Nokia, especially with the latest changes that have come with jelly bean (google now is kickass!); also Android would leave Nokia with more room to customize and skin it to their own liking (hell you can throw a swipe skin on it maybe!)
But for now I’m content with my 920 running Windows Phone
UPDATE: Apparently Nokia got in touch with WPCentral to issue a correction. Here is the actual transcript, as provided by Nokia.
“Do you rule out 100% launching a smartphone based on Android in 2013?
Elop: So, the way I think about it is, in the current war on ecosystems, we are fighting with Windows Phone. That’s what we’re doing. Now, what we’re always doing is asking, how does that evolve? What’s next? What role does HTML5 play? What role does Android or other things play in the future? We’re looking further into the future, but it terms of what we’re bringing to market, and what we’re immediately focused on, we’re focused on Windows Phone.”
As you can see, it appears some parts were “lost” in translation. Sorry to disappoint everyone who wants to see a Nokia Nexus.
Category: Android, Lumia, Nokia, Windows Phone
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Simple: They are affraid. Nokia is affraid that, if MS starts prducing WP phones n their own, the focus on Nokia as the leader in WP market will switch to MS, thus the next step to d will be embracing android. I don’t like the idea but it makes much sense. Before the buzz started about MS WP, Elop would have never said such a thing, but now… We can say that the rumors about a MicroSoft Windows Phone smartfone won’t stay “only” rumors for long.
I just hope that the time when Nokia will want to switch to (adopt) andro is far far away or/and that before that time comes, HTML 5 would be ready to make all the present OS-es irrelevant. (Yes, I know, I’m dreaming. But hey! We all like dreaming!) Cheers
Their spurned unloved child, Sailfish , my just be their savior..
HTML5, QML and Qt.
It won’t be. It’s ugly. Look at Ubuntu phone – it’s everything Jolla should’ve been but couldn’t deliver.
Well considering the UI is not yet completed nor will it be, because it is open sourced, the few short videos from Jolla only gave us a hint of its potential.
I think its pretty nice, similar to BB10 and looks to be accessible by a huge App market.
I would be surprised if Samsung or HTC didnt pick it up eventually.
Nothing uglier than Metro.
Metro?
Metro? the UI for WP
who the hell is this elop head of
- nokia
- … or micorsoft ecosystem
whom should he care about nokia or microsoft shareholders
… is is just a coincident that he is one of the biggest microsoft shareholder ?
agree, it is ugly , horrible , but remember , the UI is not open source , every company that wants to have salfish must have a different UI and then you can get the swipe UI of nokia . still do not believe that salvation was meego ?
Wrong, it’s still not known exactly how much of the stock UX will be open/closed…
All indicators so far, are that most of the stock UX will be open, & only Jolla’s flavour of Sailfish (i.e. certain UX elements or apps) will be closed.
What exactly is the business sense in having MOST of the code open save for a few ‘elements’? It never really worked. It should be a substantial part of it or otherwise it won’t be too hard/long to replicate it in open source.
Well, we don’t know yet, that was kinda my point… They’re yet to outline the complete approach, as they’re still fleshing out exactly how licensing “aspects” (i.e. mainly their flavour) of Sailfish will work.
Well Ubuntu UI is nice, but not very ergonomic. Look at that right side-bar with favourite apps. Imagine that u need pick an application which is on the highest position while holding it in right hand… very uncomfortable.
Nokia going to bed with Microsoft and NOT expecting Microsoft to SCR3W them? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! =))
HTC has Microsoft’s full attention. If you haven’t noticed, the 8x is called Windows Phone 8x by HTC.
Not really no. HTC does not have the exclusive full access to the Windows Phone 8 APIs and code like Nokia does, which allows Nokia to make meaningful modifications to the code if they so choose.
While it didn’t make sense initially, the real reason why Microsoft is giving HTC more attention is because the Lumias are so popular among Windows Phone devices. Thanks to Nokia, a lot of people were thinking only Lumia when they thought of Windows Phone. Microsoft didn’t want “Windows Phone” to lose mindshare so that’s why they supported HTC more in this case.
They want market share? then Android would do the trick, but if they want innovation along with Androids Apps, then Sailfish is the answer..
@Ali: “…once they gain enough market-share you might see an Android Windows phone.”
You mean… an Android NOKIA phone…
I am not prepared nor will I buy a Android handset as long as Google collect every damn data thing I do with my phone.
Google is to me a spyware that will store your data for life.
If Nokia could get the stuff right and swtill protect your privacy as much as for Symbian I could live with Android, otherwise never ever.
you are aware that Microsoft does far worse on skydrive are you not?
elop fail
He cant even do proper Jazz Hands. At least be more enthusiastic about your WP Lameia sales.
Can we stop posting pictures of this retard?
In other news…. it’s nice to know he’s ‘satisfied’ throwing away hundreds of millions in profits and the largest marketshare in the industry for never before seen losses and ugly ass live tiles.
Please, no personal attacks.
Elop has done good job by cutting down costs caused by Symbian.
Unfortunately OPK’s legacy was Nokia that was destined to collapse.
Cutting down costs at the expense of sales and revenue is bad business. Any freshman business student could tell you that.
Sorry, you didn’t understand.
Cutting the costs didn’t cause sales to drop.
Nokia was already losing market share. Nokia was collapsing long before Elop.
They lost over 70% of profits when you compare Q4 2007 to Q4 2010.
They just had to shut down Symbian when it was not selling that well any longer.
Maybe you should contact some college freshmen for some business tips.
Forget about Android, they should just bring back Meego/Harmattan OS with more advanced HTML5 support.
Agreed, with sailfish they can have it all, Android Apps as well.
Why Sailfish, just bring out Meego/Harmattan 2.0 with Skype video call, native VPN support, browser with better HTML5 support, theme support and better email client (ability to copy stuff from existing email) will do me fine.
Well i think thats the whole point of Sailfish,,to bring the icing to the cake.
The Sailfish OS and the Sailfish SDK are based on the core and the tools of the Mer operating system core, which is a revival of the core of the MeeGo project of Nokia,
werd
Nokia has made a clear statement which includes the word to word statement that Elop said:
Elop: “So, the way I think about it is, in the current war on ecosystems, we are fighting with Windows Phone. That’s what we’re doing. Now, what we’re always doing is asking, how does that evolve? What’s next? What role does HTML5 play? What role does Android or other things play in the future? We’re looking further into the future, but it terms of what we’re bringing to market, and what we’re immediately focused on, we’re focused on Windows Phone.”
And there we go. Nothing to see here folks, move on!
Yes, thankfully this was a headline over nothing. Just a misleading title to get hits. Nokia is not considering Android.
You better hope they are.
Why… they stand no chance against Samsung.
So Gizmodo Espanjol mistranslated and the Gizmodo translated it wrongly back to English?
Pathetic if true. But that’s media for you.
The statement here too:
http://www.wpcentral.com/stephen-elop-possibly-considering-android-were-skeptical
If there was mistranslation, it was done by El País. I don’t know Spanish, but I think it’s evident gizmodo’s translation matches the original far more than this correction.
It may be El País mistake, of course.
But it was wrong of Gizmodo to post an English quote verbatim, if that actually wasn’t Elop’s straight words. They should have made it more clear it is a translation and not put it in quotes.
Exactly
OMG! Hurry up before it’s terminally late! (maybe it is) I want to see a Nokia Android Phone!
HTML5 –> and why the f–k did Elop give up Meego then as a future disruption? (Qt + HTML5 would have givne Meego nice eco-system in the future?)
Now I’m just curious wheat Mark, Arts and co would say. Would they, the uber-WP fans, like the idea?
You guys crack me up
Finally elop flinched.
they (Nokia )will definitely observe Jolla…when they are good enough, Nokia will outsource to them…lol elop
Shame shit, different day.
Build your own OS, its the only way.
“amen!”
Maybe thats why they wouldnt license Swipe to Jolla, plan B is Swipe in HTML5.
They didn’t license it because Jolla would never have been interested, they’re all common usage paradigms which can be easily re-adapted for another UX.
Nokia can’t claim to own the rights to ALL the usability concepts in Swipe, as most of them originated from somewhere else anyway!
I don’t get why so many place so much emphasis on SwipeUX being one big monolithic thing that can’t be distilled & re-adapted into another UX, it very much can.
From a handset sales standpoint nokia should do an android phone.
With that said, i own a few android devices and i assure you, my lumia and my surface tablet are easily superior.
Android is a disorganized mess, but it has quite the fanboy following, might as well cash in on it.
Just don’t give up on windows, because i love it.
A lot of HTML5 talk. Wouldn’t HTML5 kill app markets? Why would any mobile OS producer sans Jolla support the growth of HTML5?
A lot of talk about WP8 being a failure or being ugly. How many haters have actually used WP8 for more than 15 minutes?
Some talk about Microsoft’s own WP device. Why do any of you think it’s going to “dominate? WP in sales? Did ya’ll forget that Microsoft had the XBox 360 built by Foxconn and it was a RMA and was (still is) a POS buildwise. They also wouldn’t have anything over Nokia feature or development.
A tech company CEO mentioning HTML5 now is just bluffing or he’s very incompetent.
HTML5 is simply not there yet. Another 3-5 years then maybe we can talk again.
Yeah right, because a bloated piece of sh!t like java is so much better ?? Give me a break, please.
People love to bash HTML5, but I very much doubt they even know what it is or what it’s capable of. Put simply, it returns privacy to the end user, which is the way our web experience should be.
And how does HTML5 give you all that privacy?
Do you know what’s the difference of bytecode and interpreted language?
I never said anything about Java??? I simply said HTML5 was not good enough to base a company’s smartphone technology roadmap.
While I agree that HTML5 is rather junkish and immature as a stand-alone replacement of real-deal applications, many so called apps, for example London Underground app or many news apps, are nothing but a info display venues. In such cases, you don’t need native apps (or non-native apps for that matter), HTML5 would give enough interactions.
So rather than having gazillion such apps on app store, I would prefer 9/10th of them as HTML5 based web services.
I’ll agree with that. Your “apps drawer” would simply be a list of HTML5 bookmarks outside of real games that require killer gpu engines.
However Nvidia is talking a lot about HTML5 support, especially in context to the just unveiled Tegra 4 (which I believe Nokia should totally throw into their tablet).
makes me think subscription based gaming will be THE next wave to minimize losses, but will sink stores like GameStop who monetize on recent used games, not really legacy gems (read retro gaming)
this is what you get with knee jerk journalism. MONEY! xP just kidding folks
ANDROID, F***NO. Meltemi bring it back from dead or support BB10 or Ubuntu OS.
or they are already in bed with Samsung to bring out TIZEN. Anything is possibly
Ah Tizen!
The religious folks must believe in Tizen because it has a Linux core and anything with Linux core is supposed to succeed.
Some people have real faith on Nokia. Nokia is a religion.
Android acts as a ad delivering platform for Google… that is all there is to it. Until google owns it, I don’t think I will be using it… no matter what hardware they put it on.
Oh it was just one of Elop’s empty talks again!
99.9% of the time what he says has no information content at all. The other 0.01% of the time, each of his talk actively devalues Nokia by billions.
Samsung will piss away Tizen, just like they pissed away Bada.
Whats with the hands of this guy? Cant seem to control them… Looks like he’s crushing something, maybe Nokia?
Ermmm , hate to ply the part of the wise old mouse here , nut if Nokia has the kind of money to put out Android phones , why not instead dust off Meltemi and do that? It was , if memory serves , only 2 months from the market and it is reputed to be scalable to the high end !
I like Nokia’s WP8 phones (cannot say the same for WP7, too close and lacking), but still would be happy about a Nokia Nexus ;/
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