Didn’t you know that Lord Elop pays all the people who say anything good about WP?

In reality Symbian had more features than iOS but iOS just annihilated Symbian in the high end. Apple took almost all the profits.

So, having all those features don’t make Nokia to succeed. It’s not about features.

Unfortunately Nokia tries to succeed and make money. They just can’t do that with just features. They need great products like iOS and Android. MeeGo was not that great product because of the lack of the applications. And because there were some other issues, but the lack of applications was a showstopper.

Sorry.

how much are you being paid to be around here, spreading FUD? Because that all you do FUD!And what is WP excuse?

Micrososft as been working on mobile OS’s for ever and still Harmatan declared dead 2 years ago OS had more features than WP does now!

What would have happened if Nokia didn’t shut down Symbian development? The costs were astronomical, Nokia was extremely inefficient and the middle management, well, something horrible. People at Nokia were thinking that it was really the best there is. It was a religion. Really. The head of MeeGo development was saying it was a religion preventing anything else competing against it. This thinking was preventing Nokia from making progress.

Steve Jobs called Apple’s Lisa sh*t back in the days and told how the designers of Lisa really f***** up. Yes, he was using those words. It’s possible that Elop was trying to pull off some Steve Jobs stunt and failed while doing it. Not the first time someone at Nokia was trying to be Steve Jobs.

All we know that WP was not selling that well. It’s not possible to say that it will never sell well.

Remember also that the MeeGo team already failed twice while delivering the UI. It’s possible that Nokia’s management feared that they would fail again and then Nokia would be doomed. While WP was unproven product, so was MeeGo. With the exception that the MeeGo team already failed to deliver and WP was shipping.

While it’s true that in that particular case the data would be already messed up, handling possible errors in code can be an important task if the application is not a small one and it’s possible that something was already messed up. That’s why I was interested about the additional work required to cover all that. Well. More errors. I guess error handling is also a matter of coding style. After all, I tend to have very different style for error handling compared to some coders. Java was actually a nice language back in the days because it really made it possible to make code that just “can’t” crash.

Sorry about off topic. Probably something very uninteresting for the MNB audience.

Locking the orientation in something nice, but it’s hardly as important as knowing how to get back to the home screen. I’ve shown very young kids how to play Angry Birds or some other game and how to change the game when they get bored. This has been a very easy task because it’s just so simple. Press this and select the new game by pressing it. There are some other problems but this works with some simple enough games. I’m not that sure if this would be so easy task with swipe. Locking the UI, releasing it, getting back etc. There are some uses for swipe but then again, so there is for home button as well.

It will be interesting to see how well RIM will perform. How many native applications they will have and how much profits they will make. They have nice services. It’s perfectly possible that people will use future RIM phones to use those services and Android applications. I don’t think they will get that many native applications but on the other hand they don’t need those because of their business model. It’s very different from the one Nokia has.

“Now is this something why N9 was supposed to succeed over 4 years after the iPhone while it was offering very few new features compared to the competition?”

That’s not something WHY N9 WAS SUPPOSED TO SUCCEED, that’s just WHY N9 HARDLY FAILED just because of absence of front camera support (temporary, I think). This discussion is pointless. Who knows what would be N9 if it wasn’t shutted down? All we know is that WP is failure and isn’t a good choice. Personally I think that Elop should be fired immediately, because he is fully responsible for such catastrofic “transition” from Symbian to WP, for destroyed R&D, for fired people, for nuked projects, and so on – and catastrophic results of all those. I do not think that this may be challenged – he is fully responsible for his actions. Not “previous management”, not OPK – he is already fired more than two years ago after all. Only Elop.

While everything changed in 2007 when Apple introduced iPhone, it really started selling only in 2008 with the iPhone 3G. It’s probable that, with proper marketing, Nokia would have sold just as many MeeGo phones in 2011-2012 as Apple sold iPhones in 2007-2008.

I remember very well how people using Nokia phones complained how iPhone was missing all those features. Yes it was. Now is this something why N9 was supposed to succeed over 4 years after the iPhone while it was offering very few new features compared to the competition?