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		<title>By: GordonH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GordonH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I am sure all your misunderstanding will vanish forever.&quot;
LOL that will never happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am sure all your misunderstanding will vanish forever.&#8221;<br />
LOL that will never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: GordonH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GordonH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: correct</title>
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		<dc:creator>correct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but at 100 Android phones are NOT &quot;very nice&quot;. At that price Android phones are actually quite a terrible experience, and that is why Ashas are so competitive. They are a much better user experience than any Androids at that price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but at 100 Android phones are NOT &#8220;very nice&#8221;. At that price Android phones are actually quite a terrible experience, and that is why Ashas are so competitive. They are a much better user experience than any Androids at that price.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meltemi was too little too late. It&#039;s possible that it would not have been ready even now. At best it would have been ready by the end of Q4 so Nokia would have just released the first Meltemi phones. 

Without applications it would have been a vary hard task to compete with Meltemi phones.

Android is also hitting the lowest price point of those Meltemi phones. Today you can buy a very nice Android phone for 100€ and that can run the applications quite nicely. If you don&#039;t need all those features, it&#039;s possible to find even considerably cheaper Android phones. 

So, why would someone choose Meltemi phone instead of Android phone? If there was Meltemi phones today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meltemi was too little too late. It&#8217;s possible that it would not have been ready even now. At best it would have been ready by the end of Q4 so Nokia would have just released the first Meltemi phones. </p>
<p>Without applications it would have been a vary hard task to compete with Meltemi phones.</p>
<p>Android is also hitting the lowest price point of those Meltemi phones. Today you can buy a very nice Android phone for 100€ and that can run the applications quite nicely. If you don&#8217;t need all those features, it&#8217;s possible to find even considerably cheaper Android phones. </p>
<p>So, why would someone choose Meltemi phone instead of Android phone? If there was Meltemi phones today.</p>
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		<title>By: sina88</title>
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		<dc:creator>sina88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wished we could see Nokia devices running the low-end Meltemi. Why did it had to be killed? Very idiotic. Series 40 is getting outdated, even with updated layouts &amp; freebies - that opened doors for Samsung. I also wished the Asha deviced were a bit more organized. There are so many of, but none of them feel really complete, despite being feature phones. 

My uncle still walks around with an older Nokia mobile phone and he was looking into the newer Asha touchscreen devices, because he wanted something better without all the functionalities of a smartphone. But Asha never really convinced him and he almost bought a Samsung, because the sales person said that with Samsung he gets a much better system than the old Series 40. So again Nokia, why did you kill Meltemi?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wished we could see Nokia devices running the low-end Meltemi. Why did it had to be killed? Very idiotic. Series 40 is getting outdated, even with updated layouts &amp; freebies &#8211; that opened doors for Samsung. I also wished the Asha deviced were a bit more organized. There are so many of, but none of them feel really complete, despite being feature phones. </p>
<p>My uncle still walks around with an older Nokia mobile phone and he was looking into the newer Asha touchscreen devices, because he wanted something better without all the functionalities of a smartphone. But Asha never really convinced him and he almost bought a Samsung, because the sales person said that with Samsung he gets a much better system than the old Series 40. So again Nokia, why did you kill Meltemi?!</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well.

Apple invented the modern smartphone with the iPhone. You can check that out from the picture on the top of this page.

I was not saying a squared device with a flat screen was invented by Apple. They apparently invented the iPhone Samsung copied. That&#039;s what I&#039;m saying. Just look at the picture at the top of the page.

The first claim was that Apple copied Prada with the original iPhone. When that claim folded, it was replaced by a claim that iPhone 4 copied Prada. I said about Prada that &quot;It would be very hard to think this was iPhone 4.&quot; Backside id very different. There are three buttons on the front side, the number and location of the buttons on the side is very different. Even the layout of the location where the camera is located is very different.

Just look at the picture on the top of the page. That Samsung phone looks much more like iPhone than Prada looks like iPhone 4. 

Apple is protecting the patents they have just like Nokia is. There is no difference between them protecting their intellectual properties.

I&#039;ve heard the same every time a new iPhone was released. There was never anything new according to those people who didn&#039;t like the iPhone. So, that&#039;s just the same old story over and over again.

For years people have been saying how Apple will fall in the next quarter, next year or soon anyway. Each time they failed to predict the future. Yes, it will happen at some point of time. But just now in 2013 and 2014? That remains to be seen. 

And the iPad?

First the Android tablets were supposed to kill iPad. Then the second generation and now the current one. 

About copying. It&#039;s just an observation that if someone copied the UI, it was Nokia, not Apple. That&#039;s just because they were the ones to acquire the first GUI and make it popular. Not Nokia who was using the UI invented by someone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well.</p>
<p>Apple invented the modern smartphone with the iPhone. You can check that out from the picture on the top of this page.</p>
<p>I was not saying a squared device with a flat screen was invented by Apple. They apparently invented the iPhone Samsung copied. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m saying. Just look at the picture at the top of the page.</p>
<p>The first claim was that Apple copied Prada with the original iPhone. When that claim folded, it was replaced by a claim that iPhone 4 copied Prada. I said about Prada that &#8220;It would be very hard to think this was iPhone 4.&#8221; Backside id very different. There are three buttons on the front side, the number and location of the buttons on the side is very different. Even the layout of the location where the camera is located is very different.</p>
<p>Just look at the picture on the top of the page. That Samsung phone looks much more like iPhone than Prada looks like iPhone 4. </p>
<p>Apple is protecting the patents they have just like Nokia is. There is no difference between them protecting their intellectual properties.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard the same every time a new iPhone was released. There was never anything new according to those people who didn&#8217;t like the iPhone. So, that&#8217;s just the same old story over and over again.</p>
<p>For years people have been saying how Apple will fall in the next quarter, next year or soon anyway. Each time they failed to predict the future. Yes, it will happen at some point of time. But just now in 2013 and 2014? That remains to be seen. </p>
<p>And the iPad?</p>
<p>First the Android tablets were supposed to kill iPad. Then the second generation and now the current one. </p>
<p>About copying. It&#8217;s just an observation that if someone copied the UI, it was Nokia, not Apple. That&#8217;s just because they were the ones to acquire the first GUI and make it popular. Not Nokia who was using the UI invented by someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: sina88</title>
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		<dc:creator>sina88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia:  Timothy Cook is it you? :P Or why do you write such things? While you write some good stuff (like the Xerox icon story), I have to ask: Have you ever used a mobile device before iPhones hit the market? Squared device with a flat screen came from Apple? Yeah sure... :D (actually no). Well I don&#039;t deny that Apple made them popular, I also don&#039;t deny that Apple is a genious when it comes to marketing, but otherwise you&#039;re wrong. You actually sound like a typical Apple fanboy. 

Well you say that the Prada phone doesn&#039;t look similar to the iPhone 4... really? Look again at them. Any Samsung phone looks far different to iPhones! 

We need to differentiate from copying and general development of technology. Or is every car we see nowadays on the street a copy of of Karl Benz&#039; early 1900 car? No it isn&#039;t. Therefore I rather like to use the word inspired than copied. Unfortunately people who always come up with &quot;copy.copy&quot; are Apple people. 

As mentioned earlier, I&#039;m not a Nokia or Android fan. From the amount of Apple products I own, I&#039;m probably rather an Apple fan...
 Yet I can see how ridiculous and unjustified Apples patent wars are. Apple is only doing that because they know they&#039;ll have a difficult future. 

The new iPhones barely bring any innovation anymore, iPads feel like simple toys compared to the newest Android tablet. Same for iOS... The once reliable, luxurious computer system isn&#039;t anymore what it was. It&#039;s a mess, and lost all it&#039;s advantages it had over Windows (well I don&#039;t talk about Windows8!). The once so free feeling system is nowadays more restricted than anything else on the market. People who don&#039;t just use their MacBooks to watch movies and listen to music easily realize that. The iPod business will also get smaller and smaller - every smartphone has a convenient music player installed, the demand has been sinking. Despite having a very successful iTunes, some parts of it weren&#039;t as successful as expected outside the US. Songs and Apps still are a gold-mine though. 

Apple is surfing on the success they were having the past years, but that huge wave won&#039;t last forever. Since Apple has no big things coming up anymore, they&#039;re only weapons are law suits, supported my a US law which often disadvantages its competitors. 

For Windows it would have been a good time now to jump in - for example with their Windows Phone. Unfortunately with their stubborn Metro UI which nobody likes except for themselves (PC user = mainly complaining, Xbox users = massively complaining, WP user = well they&#039;re rare, which already says it all). 

2013/14 will be interesting therefore...especially seeing already quiet a lot of netbooks running Android in stores etc. But I think Android is only that successful, because nobody else fills in that gap and Apples &amp; Microsoft are about to shoot themselves out of the competition. 

The question isn&#039;t who copies who, but who can fill up the customers needs and wishes which has been increasing the past year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia:  Timothy Cook is it you? <img src='http://mynokiablog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  Or why do you write such things? While you write some good stuff (like the Xerox icon story), I have to ask: Have you ever used a mobile device before iPhones hit the market? Squared device with a flat screen came from Apple? Yeah sure&#8230; <img src='http://mynokiablog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  (actually no). Well I don&#8217;t deny that Apple made them popular, I also don&#8217;t deny that Apple is a genious when it comes to marketing, but otherwise you&#8217;re wrong. You actually sound like a typical Apple fanboy. </p>
<p>Well you say that the Prada phone doesn&#8217;t look similar to the iPhone 4&#8230; really? Look again at them. Any Samsung phone looks far different to iPhones! </p>
<p>We need to differentiate from copying and general development of technology. Or is every car we see nowadays on the street a copy of of Karl Benz&#8217; early 1900 car? No it isn&#8217;t. Therefore I rather like to use the word inspired than copied. Unfortunately people who always come up with &#8220;copy.copy&#8221; are Apple people. </p>
<p>As mentioned earlier, I&#8217;m not a Nokia or Android fan. From the amount of Apple products I own, I&#8217;m probably rather an Apple fan&#8230;<br />
 Yet I can see how ridiculous and unjustified Apples patent wars are. Apple is only doing that because they know they&#8217;ll have a difficult future. </p>
<p>The new iPhones barely bring any innovation anymore, iPads feel like simple toys compared to the newest Android tablet. Same for iOS&#8230; The once reliable, luxurious computer system isn&#8217;t anymore what it was. It&#8217;s a mess, and lost all it&#8217;s advantages it had over Windows (well I don&#8217;t talk about Windows8!). The once so free feeling system is nowadays more restricted than anything else on the market. People who don&#8217;t just use their MacBooks to watch movies and listen to music easily realize that. The iPod business will also get smaller and smaller &#8211; every smartphone has a convenient music player installed, the demand has been sinking. Despite having a very successful iTunes, some parts of it weren&#8217;t as successful as expected outside the US. Songs and Apps still are a gold-mine though. </p>
<p>Apple is surfing on the success they were having the past years, but that huge wave won&#8217;t last forever. Since Apple has no big things coming up anymore, they&#8217;re only weapons are law suits, supported my a US law which often disadvantages its competitors. </p>
<p>For Windows it would have been a good time now to jump in &#8211; for example with their Windows Phone. Unfortunately with their stubborn Metro UI which nobody likes except for themselves (PC user = mainly complaining, Xbox users = massively complaining, WP user = well they&#8217;re rare, which already says it all). </p>
<p>2013/14 will be interesting therefore&#8230;especially seeing already quiet a lot of netbooks running Android in stores etc. But I think Android is only that successful, because nobody else fills in that gap and Apples &amp; Microsoft are about to shoot themselves out of the competition. </p>
<p>The question isn&#8217;t who copies who, but who can fill up the customers needs and wishes which has been increasing the past year.</p>
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		<title>By: MF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t really matter that Apple took cues from various sources to create a successful end product. Like they say, you can&#039;t patent the square or circle. BUT, Samsung copied the looks of an existing competing and successful product in order to divert sales from that product. To me that&#039;s theft. Copying the clock icon is totally in a different league. What Samdung did is closer to those backalley bootleggers selling fake LV bags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t really matter that Apple took cues from various sources to create a successful end product. Like they say, you can&#8217;t patent the square or circle. BUT, Samsung copied the looks of an existing competing and successful product in order to divert sales from that product. To me that&#8217;s theft. Copying the clock icon is totally in a different league. What Samdung did is closer to those backalley bootleggers selling fake LV bags.</p>
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		<title>By: MF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps morality to you means piracy is a good thing since it lowers the cost to you as a consumer. To me if Apple took the time and money to do research and investigate human behavior or preferences or UI interaction and turn it into a successful product then it deserves to earn some money for its efforts. The fact that someone stealing the idea would make it cheaper for consumers does not make it right. To me Apple did the right thing to protect its rights. I&#039;m no Apple fan but I will defend the innovators right and design can be an innovation as much as technical inventions. Having said that, i think the lawsuit did send a strong message to Samsung and they actually started thinking about how to do their own design without copying starting with the galaxy s 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps morality to you means piracy is a good thing since it lowers the cost to you as a consumer. To me if Apple took the time and money to do research and investigate human behavior or preferences or UI interaction and turn it into a successful product then it deserves to earn some money for its efforts. The fact that someone stealing the idea would make it cheaper for consumers does not make it right. To me Apple did the right thing to protect its rights. I&#8217;m no Apple fan but I will defend the innovators right and design can be an innovation as much as technical inventions. Having said that, i think the lawsuit did send a strong message to Samsung and they actually started thinking about how to do their own design without copying starting with the galaxy s 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Ramsay juttelee mukavia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 06:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course.

But regarding the icons Apple really didn&#039;t copy. They bought the icons. There is a difference.

That&#039;s why it was Nokia who copied icons, if someone copied. I also had that if over there.

I know people here love Nokia the corporation, but there are some realities they should understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course.</p>
<p>But regarding the icons Apple really didn&#8217;t copy. They bought the icons. There is a difference.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why it was Nokia who copied icons, if someone copied. I also had that if over there.</p>
<p>I know people here love Nokia the corporation, but there are some realities they should understand.</p>
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