Comments on: Bill Gates does NOT say WP is a mistake; reflects solely on strategy

By: rustyknight17

rustyknight17 — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:17:49 +0000

No it wouldnt be selling because Elop , and the Nokia Board , r firmly convinced that on freezing the app as multitasking aninly trends originnating in the USA will succeed . Last time I checked , neither Symbian , Meego , nor Meltemi r American .
Further , Elop deliberately torpedoed both Symbian and Meego before they could get off the ground in order to eliminate dangerous rivals . I`m convinced that Elop deliberately leaked those Nokia/Ms alliance and the upcxoming burning platform memo rumours back in 12/2010 to sink both Symbian and Meego , consequences be darned !

By: rustyknight17

rustyknight17 — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:07:06 +0000

I refer u to my post above . I gave u the specific Wikipedia page , go look it up .
10 million is more than Nokia sold last quarter . And again , that figure is just the N8 in its first year ! That doesn`t include the other S3 models , most of which did nearly as well ..

By: rustyknight17

rustyknight17 — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:59:16 +0000

Thx for the info ! However , my comments above still stand.
Ur 808 freezes with just the cam ?!? Granted , the 808 has a MUCh more powerful cam , but it also has an additional GPU just to deal with the cam , so it shouldn`t be freezing …
Although I`ve never used the 808 ( yet ) , I have used several S3 and Belle phones ( N8 , C6-01 , 700, 701 ) . Based on that experience , I can tell u that either ur 808 is defective ( I encountered a very similar issue with my first N8 , which was one of the infamous first batch ! ) or else u downloaded a bad app , which can also account for these symptom s !
Duhhhh , as I said , the IPhone doesn`t have real multitasking unless u count freezing the app as multitasking and the vast majority of people don`t …
I trust u`ll forgive me if I don`t take ur opinion of the 808 as a flawed SP too seriously , since , as I remarked above , either ur 808 is defective or u have a bad app ! Cheers !

By: Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista

Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista — Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:07:35 +0000

Yes it was collapsing. You just don’t get it.

The ASP fell 16% in Q4 2010. Nokia lost 5 points of market share in Q4 2010. That’s two digit %.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World-Wide-Smartphone-Market-Share.png

This is the collapse of Symbian. You can’t even pinpoint the Feb 11. from that graph. Elop didn’t make Nokia to collapse. Nokia collapsed because of Symbian.

Symbian was no longer a relevant OS.

It was a relic.

By: Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista

Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista — Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:02:58 +0000

No multitasking. The 808 just freezes when the camera is used. I pretty much use only the camera.

It’s just so unstable that it freezes without any additional applications.

No, and it’s checked. It’s not a hardware problem. It’s just the Symbian OS. It has flaws.

Actually the iPhone can do the multitasking it has and it still lags less than 808 without any multitasking.

Sorry, the 808 is just one flawed piece of design. Probably because of the Symbian OS.

By: rustyknight17

rustyknight17 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:25:44 +0000

Wowww ! As I said I have 2 S3 phones , ur 808 has twice their RAM and they rarely freeze or lag ,and I use them a LOT ! So it`s only fair to ask what u r doing with ur 808 to make it freeze ? I`m guessing u use a bunch of heavy apps at the same time !
I will point out in passing that the IPhone doesn`t have real multitasking like Belle does , of course it doesn`t lag as much , it freezes the app !
I take it that by messy u mean u don`t like the look …
Unintuitive I grant u to a degree t …. There`s a learning curve to Symbian , though Belle is MuCH more intuitive than S3 and Anna . Can`t comment oon s60 as I`ve not used i

By: xxx

xxx — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:31 +0000

Symbian wasn’t collapsing. In Q4 2010 they sold 25 mln smartphones (the best result in Nokia history). If you compare whole 2010 year, they sold 50% more smartphones than in 2009. In 2011 after Elop disaster they sold 50% less. They sold 50% less smartphones in 2012. There is no reason to kill cash cow like Symbian if you sell more and more phones every year. WP strategy failed.

By: Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista

Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:23:25 +0000

Actually Nokia Store wasn’t the second one in revenues. Only in software sales and that was not enough for someone like Nokia.

Nokia failed with the store.

MeeGo would have succeeded just as well as WP did. There were not enough high end customers left. Nokia already lost those when the high end Symbian sales collapsed in 2009 and 2010.

Talking about a full Linux distro means next to nothing. It’s the actual product that matters and the swipe UI was not never proved to be something the real customers liked.

There were very few applications and old Symbian applications could not be ported to MeeGo.

By: Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista

Jyrki Sukula ottaa voiton Ramskista — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:17:57 +0000

It’s very likely that you just don’t understand how Symbian ruined Nokia.

Maybe you are such a fanboy that it’s not possible for you to understand.

By: RVM

RVM — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:02:18 +0000

Seems you have some reading comprehension issues. No point to waste more of my time.