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  • Viipottaja
  • adit38

    lumia 920 vs iphone 5 camera comparasion by nikon guy

  • adit38

      i am agreed adit Google is unfair they dont want android will lose

  • jiipee

    Taskumuro has another Meego related article available. this one is a collection of information they received as feedback after the first article. They have done the best they could to verify the feedback from different sources.
    So far in Finnish only:
    – Searay was originally N9 version for Verizon (RM-716). It was changed to L800 after abandoning Meego. This was worked together with Qualcomm since Intel had not support for LTE.
    – Verizon N9 was designed around Qualcoom Spandragon system and they were already working on hardware adaptation.
    – It was easy to change the Verizon N9 after Feb’11 to WP since they were running the same Snapdragon system on a chip.
    – That is the reason, why Elop can boast the speed of creating L800, it was mostly ready by then and he was able to show it just days after the launch of N9.
    – The challenge in Intel partnership was that their chip was power consumption. (as it is widely known). LG had a device running on intel chi and had planned to install Meego on it, but decided against it Spring 2010.
    – Nokia has several tablet on the drawing board and the Senna code named device – that was mentioned in the previous article – was the most ready. Ceberus was the most interesting of those tablets ( It was scrapped since it was thought that developers would not be interested. Qualcomm had patented the device in the picture while they were cooperating with Nokia on N9 hw adaptation.
    – Nokia also had e-ink devices on the drawing board. Those were scrapped quickly
    – Ditching Meego was done in a very small group of people. LG was given no importance during the decision eventhough they were interested in adopting Meego. Samsung was approached, but according to one source, Samsung was never given real option to give final answer before moving on to WP.
    – Carriers were thought to be the biggest opponents to moving on to Meego.
    – Total chaos around ecosystem and developer relations. Ovi Store was worried that there should be sufficient amount of apps available for Meego. The plans kept on changing and decision had to be done in the wild.
    – Target segments and key features of Meego devices kept on changing through time. In one meeting something was decided and in the next meeting everything was changed. Developers were unaware what was expected and which application should be developed. The pressure to have huge amount of apps during launch was heavy.
    – Meego also had an impact to Symbian development. One day it was said that Meego and Symbian would have same UI/UX, the next day it was said that they should be different. Information exchange did not work over the organizational silos and common meetings were canceled often. As an example, a person working on Symbian told that they tried to find info on Meego UI from sites like TechCrunch.
    – Alongside Meego development of Meltemi took place from 2010 to 2012. One of the planned names was Meego lite, but it was never ddecided upon.
    – Meltemi was supposed to be 100% compatible with Meego. The goals were:
    – To get it run on low specced devices
    – To have UI to run on 60FPS throughout the UI
    – To start app in one second
    – To manage data in one database so that a lot of information could be retrieved at once (would allow nice hubs similar to WP)
    – There were massive trouble related to everything: database, firmware versions, functionalities, new chip… According to their sources, Meltemi was not ready to ship.
    They might be publishing more info on Meltemi later in 2013.

    • Viipottaja


      “Carriers were thought to be the biggest opponents to moving on to Meego.”

      Ouch/aha 2:

      “According to their sources, Meltemi was not ready to ship.”

      • jiipee

        Both of those are key information and Id like to hear more about them. There is still some internal inconsistency. According to the article Verizon was ready to sell N9 v2. Aren’t they the biggest carrier in US and not selling Lumia patch one? If it was Verizon who canceled the product, then the argument that carriers were not ready to adopt Meego would be more believable. Also Telefonica was part of Meego alliance.

        Too bad Eero Penttinen (@eeropenttinen) hasnt opened up what was going on with Meltemi. He sounds like he would have been reliable source since he is now sponsoring WP.

  • viipottaja
  • Viipottaja

    Can’t post the link for some reason so just to say that 822 appears at the top of Verizon best sellers list. I am surprised and happy to hear that! 🙂

  • Muerte

    Thinner, lighter, Nokia Catwalk (Lumia 920 successor) coming in 2013:

    Other lighter devices as well. Who would have known? 😉

    • Viipottaja

      Interesting, nice to get some more rumors milling about. 😀 Wonder how they will make it significantly thinner though if its the 920’s successor also in the sense of a camera with OIS?

  • Mrinmoy

    Tech guru on CNBC Awaaz awards 808 pureview best innovation for 2012


    Maybe google knws Windows phone 8 sales are high or getting tooo much visits from WP8 , that they started to block their services for WP8 😛

  • Muerte

    Chinese ad showing how to demonstrate 920’s features.

  • Vikas Patidar
  • viipottaja

    Please update today’s story:

    Update: Nokia categorically denies that what Elop said implies anything different from what he has stated over and over for months now. In other words, there is once again nothing to see here except some Android fantasies, bad reporting and perhaps some translation issues. Below is the verbatim transcript of the interview regarding the Android question:

    “Do you rule out 100% launching a smartphone based on Android in 2013?

    Elop: So, the way I think about it is, in the current war on ecosystems, we are fighting with Windows Phone. That’s what we’re doing. Now, what we’re always doing is asking, how does that evolve? What’s next? What role does HTML5 play? What role does Android or other things play in the future? We’re looking further into the future, but it terms of what we’re bringing to market, and what we’re immediately focused on, we’re focused on Windows Phone.”

    from wpcentral

  • Qualcomm’s new Snapdragon 800
    *capture Ultra HD
    * Snapdragon 800 supports UHD

    last year 41 mp dis year capture Ultra HD 😛

    Maybe Nokia tablet with Snapdragon 800

  • Battlebird
  • Viipottaja

    At least some 808 development still ongoing in Nokia:

  • Viipottaja
  • Viipottaja
  • meh
  • Bloob

    It seems AT&T had a very good Q. Hopefully Nokia’s share of phones sold is at least on par with Q2 L900s.

  • arts
    • Pdexter

      Lol. Was the Japanese earthquake Elop’s Fault as well. 😀

      It’s normal business model that example Google uses to avoid almost 80% of the taxes it should pay in Europe. Ikea pays no taxes to Sweden at all, even as they are hugely profitable company. Actually pick any company with over 100 million revenue and they all use tax planning. It’s the very basics of any business.

      As a student of this field you are taught the basics of tax planning in the second year. You need to remember that there’s still nothing official about Nokia avoiding taxes unlegally (they are avoiding taxes like any other company), only speculation.

      There’s a lot organizations who have shorted Nokia stock and have a lot tied to Nokia. I wish the normal people could understand even 10% of the talk analysts give and how they are tied to different organizations.

    • Viipottaja

      Excellent, finally some tax planning! 😉

      More interestingly though: so the reported “raid” was not even a “search” but only a “survey”. Oh journalists, you scum of the earth! 😛

      • arts

        I was hoping trolls would pick up on this article. Sigh. Oh well. It says they have been evading taxes since 6 years ago. Hehehehehehe

    • jiipee

      It more or less nullifies their good corporate citizen jargon, if they follow the path laid by Google, Facebook, GE, to some extent Microsoft. There are also risks evenif it was fully legal. Being legal does not equal being ethical.

  • cache

    Lumia 920, Fruit Ninja and knife 🙂

  • jiipee

    This is more like it:

    One has to note though that Avanade is joint venture between MS and Accenture (and I dont really like either 😉 ) As Ive said from the beginning, they should be more aggressive towards the business segment and really fight against Iphone when they have superior device and UX to offer (which should not take longer than 3 months)

  • rishabh

    Flipkart a leading online store in of India has listed the price of lumia 920 as 36999inr and for 820 it is 26999inr. Stated coming soon