Microsoft and Nokia in talks about a partnership
"Can you throw us a lifejacket please our boat is burning"
Day 203948 in the continued tragic Saga that involves Nokia, this time Bloomberg and the Wall street Journal are both reporting that Nokia are in talks with Microsoft concerning a software deal, I would imagine Windows Phone 7 powered Nokia devices *excuse me while I quickly go to the toilet and throw up on the thought of that* What astonishes me is that the deal is near to completion. Wait what ?!?!? that means we will not see a Nokia powered Windows Phone 7 if it happens until Q4 at least while they get their act together and implement Windows Phone 7, how is this supposed to help Nokia this is just going to add more months of development which Nokia cannot afford right now, unless they take the N8 put a new more powerful CPU and dump WP7 on it of course.
Stephen Elop also has been in discussions with Google on putting their Android on to Nokia device *excuse me again while I go to the toilet to throw up on the thought of that* but with the recent
“Two turkeys don’t make an eagle “
sounds like Google are bit angry not being able to strike a deal with Nokia.
Now Bloomeberg are pointing out that Nokia will want a strategic deal rather than being just a OEM for Microsoft which will likely lead to some special allowances for Nokia if they do go ahead with Windows Phone 7 deal.
My take on this is its gonna happen folks. Stephen Elop will announce a “strategic alliance” which never sounds great, which will involve Windows Phone 7 powered devices in the near future *I think I have to go an throw up again* Its obvious Elop is pleading internally with his senior managers (if you believe the memo) to forget symbian for the high and MeeGo, which is far from ready to do any real impact on the market if you believe the reports again.
Tomorrow is going to be a momentous day for Nokia, I mean the last time Nokia had this much media attention was when…….. well I can’t remember to be honest actually. The thought of reviewing or writing actual news on a WP7 device by Nokia for the site sounds terrifying to be honest unless Jay shuts down the blog and buys and iPhone 5 of course 
……… but then again what choice have Nokia got at the moment they are at snails pace when it comes to software development, then again Microsoft are as well. Look at HP they are putting WebOS on PC’s, so this supposed alliance does sound like two desperate people getting together which never ends well…….
P.S Sorry for asking is Palm still on sale LOL……..
via Bloomberg
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Can anybody tell me abt the n9? Coz thers a articel at gsm arena that its been totally scrapped? Wheres that alex guy or people who know this stuf? What abt ur who bought s^3 devices? Will we stil gt that updates? Or what? Then lastly if nokia makes an wp7 device, what the hell? Wp7 only managed to sell 1.5 million units while s^3 sold ova 5 million. But if nokia drops either symbian or meego for wp7 then ill NEVER BUY NOKIA AGAIN. Why? Because that means nokia did that to penetrate only the US. But what about us who are nt from US?
1) You cannot really cancel something that has not been announced
2) A model called N9 or N9-xx is expected to be announced
3) Most rumors indicate that it will not have the same specs and/or design as the prototype device leaked in the fall of 2010.
4) Nokia will not drop Symbian or Meego (btw, there are 99 open positions for Meego at Nokia righ now). Rest assured.
5) Symbian will get updates. 100% sure.
6) WP7 in addition: who knows. My personal take still: unlikely.
in addition – looks like there are as many as 6 MeeGo Nokia devices hanging around..
jsa
02-07-2011 , 11:08 AM
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Interesting, RM-716 is a new one. Others I’ve bumped into are
- RX-71
- RM-581
- RM-660
- RM-680
- RM-690
- RM-696.
Edit: A bit of googling with RM-716 also reveals an RM-742.
In the bigger scheme of things I think the abundance of unearthed product codes would go to show that they’re planning on ramping up from the one Maemo/MeeGo model a year even though it’s likely that not all of those listed above will end up in the market.
Could it possibly be that we have finally solved the great mystery of RX-71? This file reveals us this:
Code:
#define PRODUCT_RX71_STR “RX-71″ /**< Development board */
It's of course possible that it was supposed to get to the market but maybe got scrapped at some point and relegated to a dev device.
Last edited by jsa; 02-07-2011 at 11:32 AM.
here is source..
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=939483#post939483
Searching in qt bugtrcker, i saw this from 2010-11-17:
RX-71+RM-680+RM-690+RM-696+RM-716+RM-742_HARMATTAN_0.2010.47-1.001_RD_LEGACY_001_ARM.bin
RM-680 (dali)prototype N9
RM-690 ??
RM-696 (lankku)
RM-716 ??
RM-742 ??
@Marc
Its probably old news recycled in this rumor craze.
Last month eldar posted in twitter that N9-00 has been cancelled.
Some time later he said “gonna see the new N9″ or something.
So it is probably the old prototype that was cancelled which was suppose to launch in q4 2010.
It would have probably already be outdated when it is suppose to launch maybe in april or june? So maybe they have a new one now on the make and test.
i hope it is not true.
are they placing themselves on deadrow?
streamline, focus, bring to market 1 (ONE !!! yes thats correct just ONE ) phone which is above all
don’t miss deadlines, advertise … etc.
and DO NOT mess with this OS or that OS.
only gives confused customers.
you do realize that they will alienate a large portion of their fanbase if they do that.
if they scrap meego and symbian, the N8 will be my last Nokia
The reason i didn’t get an iPhone or a Android device was because Nokia’s meaning to me was reliability, build quality and originality (by using Symbian and Meego). Getting WP7 or Android OS on nokia phones is a big step backward to me. I still have hope in Nokia, but we’ll have to see what’s going to happen this year.
If it’s really true, it would mean that Elop is simply M$ Trojan horse to sabotage Linux adoption on mobile.
Wow, nice theory, I believe in this one to 100%. Screw Microsoft.
My predictions:
I think Nokia will announce a deal to integrate MS ecosystem to all of its products, including OVI, and a special device running a customized and exclusive version of WP7.
This device will have a “special” OVI store, with all the apps from the market place. All MS services and products like Office, Bing, Live, Zune will be integrated to Symbian and Meego ecosystems.
Even if WP7 isn´t an exclusive OS, other manufacturers won´t have access to this customized version and services/apps like Ovi Maps, Sports-tracker, etc.
(Sorry for my bad english)
It’s still bad. Polluting Meego with MS services would make it seriously less attractive.
But MS services are attractive, specially in the US market.
It would be great to see services like Office, in Symbian and Meego, exclusively for Nokia devices.
Google services are much more used than MS ones. And I wouldn’t call MS services attractive. On desktop MS has the monopoly, but in the cloud and network services they are pitiful.
I think Nokia and Microsoft working together is a great idea… I’ve had Nokia devices for around 15 years and never changed from Nokia and to be fair the software really hasn’t changed too much either.
Now with Nokia constructing great chassis / bases for phones e.g the look of the N8 and 12mpx, Xenon etc, and Microsoft specialising in Software (how many of us are using windows to view MNB) it could work out great for both companies taking on Apple and Google. Lets face it Microsoft will have a huge advertising budget for WP7 then Nokia would for Meego?
More people know Microsoft or Windows then Symbian or Meego? This day and age its about the brand and how it looks, people love smooth software with a large number of useful apps created by companies they know.
I can see if working out great?
MS and Nokia will make an alliance only in services (Music, video, mail, apps, search etc). Nokia wont ditch Symbian or Meego. They will add WP7 in selected markets. All platforms will be connected with QT.
I dont think there will be a WP7 phone. Not that I wouldn’t buy one… I like WP7 as an OS. A shame the US got shafted on the good WP7 phone models.
I think it will be a collaboration of services.
QT on WP7. Ovi Maps for WP7.
A new Silverlight version on Symbian and Meego.
Bing search by default on nokia devices.
Zune music store for North American market.
Access to MS Livedrive for Nokia devices.
QT versions of Messenger, and MS office apps.
Improved email client with better Outlook sync.
If they could find some way to use Xbox live as a replacement for the Ngage services on Nokia devices, that would be cool with me.
Nokia will probably preview the upcoming gui changes for Symbian and Meego. There will be advertising and US carrier deals.
I’m not getting that – MS services aren’t great to begin with, their market penetration is minor comparing to other competitors like Google. What does Nokia gain from using them?
Like year ago with Intel,
Nokia and Microsoft will announced Symbian + Windows Joint Operation codename : SWIN OS.
That’s what i guess……..
If they really abandon MeeGo than the new CEO needs to get his head examined.
1. They’ve already spent large amounts of money on the project since the Maemo days. If they jump on the WP7 wagon they’ve wasted their money for nothing.
2. MeeGo has some powerful partners already, without it being released yet! Intel AND Amd are supporting it together, some big players there. Than there are Acer, Asus, GENIVI aliance, EA, GameLoft, Novel, the Linux foundation…pretty major players there too.
They can get back to the top in the high-end market again and MeeGo can get them there. All they need to do is make some major changes in the company to speed things up. Than they should start developing 2-4 different MeeGo phones for different audiences (business, all-round, camera) and don’t announce nothing until they are 100% ready. The best bet will be to announce 2 weeks before the xmas and start shipping immediately!
If they abandon MeeGo I’m buying a WebOS device, the only mobile OS that is based on Linux, Android is a mess
Can’t wait to see what is next for nokai
its feb 11st in indonesia, cant wait to hear what nokia will tell us
if this is true I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER NOKIA CELL PHONE.
And I reccomend you to do the same.
… FYI I’ve always bought only nokia