"Ovi Store will tower over Apple's App Store and Android Market in a few years". Poll: Do you agree?
@MickyFin retweeted a very provocative tweet by @tomiahonen
Tomi comment 4 Ovi – in a few years Ovi will tower over all other App stores incl iPhone & Android simply due to Nokia’s scale. Inevitable 8 minutes ago via web
At the current state of super fragmented Ovi Store where compatibility and content is low, despite much of the improvements, it doesn’t seem at all possible that Ovi Store could ever topple the mighty App Store or even been the rapidly growing Android Market.
I thought 4, was for as in comment for Ovi, but it turns out that tweet is part of 6 tweets, explaining the logic behind it. Tomi is a prolific mobile communications author and analyst and has published many books, one of which, “Communities Dominates Brands” has a counterpart blog communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/
How will Nokia Conquer App Market with Ovi? According to Tomi:
- Tomi comment 1 Ovi – first, as the various platforms sort their App stores out, they fix the bugs and kinks, get reasonably similar..
- Tomi comment 2 Ovi – then as Nokia sells 450M phones/year & world replace phones every 17 months, has time to roll out Ovi to its clients
- Tomi comment 3 Ovi – as developers see Ovi is world’s furthest-reaching app platform (outside of USA obviously) they rush to port apps to it
- Tomi comment 4 Ovi – in a few years Ovi will tower over all other App stores incl iPhone & Android simply due to Nokia’s scale. Inevitable
- Tomi comment 5 Ovi – look at Nokia’s ethos, they learned that ‘internet lesson’ very well, to launch often and release updates often..
- Tomi comment 6 Ovi – Nokia know for market success, ‘best’ is the enemy of ‘good enough’
MeeGo is already getting much support from huge companies such as Cisco, Asus, Acer, BMW and many, many, many more. Symbian is still the most popular smartphone OS, with 40% Global market share (46% to iPhone’s 15%, Android’s 4% – 2009) and has new revisions Symbian^3 and Symbian^4 coming this year. Both can run Cross platform applications which run on Qt – meaning apps made for MeeGo also run on Symbian. There’s your compatibility/fragmentation sorted.
Though it does raise a question whether all MeeGo apps will be through Ovi, which will help Ovi Store a lot in having one domain for all other devices, even non Nokias, to get their content.
Do you think Ovi Store can outgun Apple’s App Store? Jobs is proudly citing of his 185,000 apps and growing every day. His iPad has stirred much excitement again for his platform. What about Android Market? Android phones are being shoved in our faces left and right as everyone and their grandmother seems to be producing Android phones.
I’d like to see Nokia execute Ovi Store to how it should have been to begin with – the App Store “killer”. Eventually, (hopefully) Nokia’s higher end phones can start to trickle in to the market which can actually run decent looking applications that’s of current standard or better than competitors.
So the poll. The time concept of “a few years” is probably when both MeeGo and Symbian platforms have become mature “next gen” smartphone operating systems, not ‘fledgeling’ ones like S^3 or Maemo , i.e. maybe well into Symbian^4 or (real) MeeGo 1.0
Category: Nokia
Definitely yes!
No, not at the current rate they’re going at, they still haven’t even allowed paid apps in the Canadian store for both Symbian and Maemo.
I really would like Nokia to be successful, however I believe that Android (Google) will eventually win over both Apple and Nokia. They offer the middle way between the closed dumbed down money making machine that Apple’s App store is and the inefficient and anti-market behaviour of Nokia…
…..oh come on!!!! Ovi overtake Apple’s app store…???!!! Do me a favour – PLEASE….!!!! Is this some kind of a joke….??!!!
Nokia’s Ovi Store currently has about only a handful of apps – compare that to Apple’s – NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER….!!!!
they said the same for Android, but its growing faster than iOS’ store right now. If Android grew that fast, imagine what Nokia, with far greater reach, can do.
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Many people argue on the issue of quality over quantity, so the 185,000 apps on Apple’s App store becomes insignificant. And true to form, the number of useful/efficient apps are probably less than 20-30%. But keep in mind, even 1% of that 185,000 amounts to 1850 apps, and that’s still a lot compared to the number of useful apps on the Ovi Store.
Currently, the Ovi Store, when narrowed down to individual phones, has less than 100 apps for each device, and out of these, probably only 10-20 are actually useful. The rest; ringtones, wallpapers, themes, etc! Luckily the N900 is not just bound to the Ovi Store, and is open to various other download sources.
It appears as if most app developers are from the US, who are not concerned of other platforms than iPhone OS and Android. I’m not saying that this is the real situation, it just looks like it. Probably the hardware variety on the Symbian’s side makes it more confusing for them, in contrast to one single device from Apple (ok, iPod Touch counted in!) and a couple of similar ones on Android’s territory.
I can’t run an app made for the N97 on the X6 or vice versa; and a number of developers are fussy about this fact. So what will drive them towards developing for this platform if such issues still exist? And consequently, how would the Ovi Store grow against Apple’s App Store or the Android Market? Only time will tell.
well yes. that’s the big problem. nokia and symbian strong point became weakest point. and that’s fragmentation. you don’t create a software for symbian you create a software for a specific platform. I remember back in 2005-2006 that I worked for 3 months for a company that made mobile games , and I was in the porting team(15 guys) and we had around 30-40 different phones from nokia, SE and motorola everyone with different resolution, and hardware.
Just to add another thing, check this out if you guys missed it a few weeks back: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-10471786-62.html
I think given a few years it can surpass the App Store but not anytime soon. Besides, I see the same old apps for my N900 nweek in week out with nothing new. However, this article should show you that there are increasing download numbers through Ovi every month so who knows.
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_nokia_ovi_stores_hits_16_million_downloads_per_day-news-1575.php
You’ve got to be kidding.
I believe that Symbian 4 creates a binary break, so the Symbian installed base will in part be set to 0 again by then. There is Qt to prepare for this, but I think that Nokia still needs to show how succesful their programming environment and tools are.
Apple has clearly shown what they can do. That ecosystem is pretty much instopable. Android promises less platform fragmentation with FroYo, so they might finally get their act together as well before Symbian really gets serious.
The big advantage of the Ovi Store is that the downloads include things that aren’t really apps, such as themes, wallpapers, and media. In terms of downloads it may start to rival them.
App Store includes ebooks and content, so its no different.
@Midas
Thanks for the great find. Even in that article, it’s mentioned that Ovi Store probably needs another 7 years to get to where Apple’s App Store stands today.
100 devices, across 80 countries and 66 operators, and available in 30 different languages; all these look good on paper only.
I’m a Nokia fan, admittedly, but I’m quite disappointed with the way things are going. I don’t want to be stuck to downloading baby-giggling ringtones and wallpapers only; I need more useful apps on the Ovi Store for both my E72 and X6. My friend with an iPhone on the other hand has five times more of ‘such’ apps!
Ovi store is a joke!!can it equal the app store??not in my wildest dreams!!nokia can shove its store up its stinkin ass n stop production of its so called phones..
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It’s possible, but will take a lot of effort and energy. Nokia needs to support developers, converge platforms and create better smartphones and then who knows… but for 2010/2011 it’s safe to assume App Store’s supremacy.
Absolutly dissapointed from Nokia 97.
1) itsa shame paying for quick office,adobe reader and many other apps…..
2)camera delay too long,short shuts not possible.
3)most of the apps for downloading only available for platform Windows and Palm.
4)impossible loading programs from OVI,user name,password required newly in continuation,may be for un ingenieur informatician would be possible but for the common user,hard brain working and incomprehensible
AND MANY MANY MORE CRITICS…
IF I COULD GET MY MONEY BACK ILL RETURN IMMEDIATLY (540 € five hundreed forty euros)
In english…. a piece of s…..(sorry the expression)
They need to open Ovi Store to ALL symbian phones, including Sony Ericsson’s, Samsung’s, and other brands, so people can visit the same store instead of having Ovi for Nokia only, PlayNow for Sony Ericsson only, and so, because that way you can give the chance to users to move across hardware easier.
samsung and SE won’t be building symbian phones so why be open for them in the first place. There will be different things for meego since there is an intel app store cross platform
lol ovi wont win coz in the next 2 yrs nokia wont be the largest selling smartphone manufacturer. hence, developers will move to apple.
RIGHT! Nokia’s growing smartphone share 4 straight quarters, Apple’s losing share 4 straight quarters, so I’m sure Apple will automagically surpass Nokia, now selling three times as many smartphones as Apple. Can you be my math tutor?
At least say Android. They have momentum, but we saw the same thing with iOS in its first two years too. Nokia just needs some US subsidies, and its a cakewalk from there.
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it should support anything Java. Try GetJar.com and check for yourself. Should be plenty stuff to try there.
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the idea of a store is overrated . it is good only to lunch an OS. once it reaches 300-400k+ apps is useless. imagine now an app store for desktop windows . you hundred millions apps are? how many apps does anyone have installed in their computer? as few as you can. besides the necesary day by day apps like a music player , movie player, browser I have a few apps for my work( I’m a programmer) and that’s it. I also install from time to time a game just to recreate myself, and that’s it. I remember when I bought my first comp in ’97 that I bought a lot of chip and pc magazine to install all the small software that comes with the CD. and got bored after 1 year.
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One reason apple has so many apps is because they don’t provide flash player. I think a lot can be cut down with a good browser.
took the words from my mouth. Browsers eat apps over time.
what the? browsers beat apps? u gotta be kidding me. slower and not optimized web versions? WTF?
nokia need to develop a good smart phone first then try to work on their ovi, every nokia phone i bought it was piece of shit, i cant believe nokia still in busniss, i will never buy another nokia as long as i live, worst customer support, i bought my first iphone 4 and i can not believe how awsom this phone is, it work soo smooth it work like a desktop, im apple fan now and i will never buy other phone but apple
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Fascinating to read this article just over a year later. The problem that Toni didn’t forsee was that Nokia turned out a lot of substandard phones and alienated their customer base. I chose a Nokia C6 over an HTC Desire because I loved Nokia (despite being a bit disappointed with the 5800), didn’t want to go to the hassle of changing manufacturer and didn’t know much about Android. It’s not the worst phone I’ve ever owned (that would be a Windows phone from a few years ago), but it’s just not good enough. My wife has just got an HTC Sensation, and it’s amazing. My previous experience with Windows has left me cold, and I have little confidence in Nokia now. I wil be getting an Android phone on my next upgrade and saying goodbye to Nokia with a sad mixture of regret and relief. Ovi Store is a joke – especially as some apps that worked on my 5800 won’t work on the C6, and it’s supposed to be an upgrade!
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