Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony Ericsson, LG, Acer and several others barely sell more Androids than Nokia alone with Symbian in Q4.
OK, With every story there’s various perspectives. Here’s the “Android takes over Symbian” story. The last time such a story ran where “Android took over Symbian” in Asia, China and India were taken out of the equation. Not just Nokia’s biggest markets but the two countries combined has 60% of Asia’s frikkin population!
Now we’re hearing again that in Q4, Android has taken over Nokia’s Symbian. 31M (Symbian) vs 33M (Android).
28.3M are from Nokia. One manufacturer. ONE.
Nokia is one guy. Let’s call him Chuck Norris.
Android is like a group of guys. Sammy, Henry, Moe, Sonny, Luigi, Ace and several other extras.
For quite some time, Chuck has been beating everyone else on his own! (Not that Chuck was ever praised. Oh it’s not about sales! It’s not about market share! It’s not about anything positive for you unless we can brag about it ourselves).
Some questions I wanna ask:
- How many Symbian Phones sold in 2010
- How many Android Phones sold in 2010
- When did Nokia start selling S^3 phones?
- Is Nokia still number 1 as phone manufacturer?
- How come Android at Number 2 in Q3 is INCREDIBLE but Nokia at number 2 in Q4 are “DYING”. What on earth about #3, #4, #5?
- Are there still more Symbian users than Android users?
You know what? I think it’s awesome that it takes every other god-damn manufacturer to sell all their androids to ‘overtake’ Symbian.
And this is with the “crappy Symbian phones” that the likes of Gizmodo refused to review as they hated it so much! It’s so “bad” and so “weak” yet every major manufacturer are barely denting it? Nokia’s given the competition SUCH an EASY time so far.
But seriously, Nokia. Get your freaking act together with Symbian. This could have been nipped in the bud, now you’re gonna have to pull a lumberjack routine.
hmm. I haven’t eaten in 30 hours 
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Great Post Jay !!!
Lets face it, it was always going to happen I mean there sooooo many crap low end Android phones out there now, trust me I have tried them they are terrible.
I think its time for Nokia to forget “oh we are the biggest” and start creating amazing phones again, in a way its a monkey of their back, Nokia should fully concentrate on making great Meego phones now.
Despite that people need to remember that Nokia is only one company that sells Symbian phones so a good effort, but I guess not good enough.
wrt the title of this post i would like to quote
A lone armeteur built the Ark
A group of professionals built the Titanic
Oh by the way these are just Q4 numbers not overall numbers so the media are overhyping it again to gain page views.
Symbian is still selling more than Android. overall
But again not surprised, Android was always going to overtake Symbian, I am surprised this quickly though.
As soon as Nokia drops the N9, I will drop my blackberry that I just bought yesterday (which I sold my N8 to get)
The N8 was a awesome hardware phone… software…. sucked ass! It froze all the time, the web was slow (even though it was running on my Tmobiles 3g U.S) and “Memory full” after one day of use? WTF!!!! Great device but horrible software!
I really hope the N9 Meego doesn’t disappoint or I will have to go with the IPHONE 5 (coming this spring/summer) and probably never turn back!
lol, lier! what freezez? what “memory full”?! i had this phone since october and i never got these from normal use! only after i had *spark+browser+whatsapp+music till i got the memory full msg, and thats NOT normal use… i was trying to push the N8 to the edge.
besides that, no restarts no freezes and no memory full.
and then what… u say the browser was slow, so u got a blackberry?!?!? i got one too… and browsing isnt better at all!
blackberry is the worst device ever! its only for emails, everything else sucks! but the media doesnt say a word about how BB’s suck, they just LOVE to say how symbians browser isnt good!
they always seem to forget how affordable nokias are, and how they have great battery life, or the great camera, or the HDMI, or USB OTG… and the list goes on and on…
so please… how pathetic are u trying to convince us that u sold a NOKIA N8 for a stupid BLACKBERRY!
u never tried a nokia N8 in yr life
I have my N8 since mid december, using Opera Mobile 10.1. I had no single “memory full” message yet.
I have. Twice on Opera.
Which is odd because it had plenty of memory available.
Did you install the new version of Opera Mobile 10.1 from late december? They released a “silent update” which came with bugfixes especially for S^3. You can’t see it by version number, just reinstall 10.1.
Nope. It’s been there since November so I’ll update.
Don’t be such a fucking Nokia fan boy.
MEMORY FULL in ONE DAY! It couldn’t even open the fucking web. You sound pathetic just like a Android fan boy. Do you work for Nokia or something”… if you do… FIX YOUR SHIT! It’s laggy.
Why wouldn’t I buy a N8? It’s cheap on AMAZON.COM. I got if for $420 U.S. dollars.
12mp, surround sound, beautiful design… but that is not going to be enough if I can’t use the damn thing.
Blackberry 9780 is what I switched it for. And yes…. the web is much faster than the N8. You’re probably from Europe or nowhere near the United States… come here and try your N8 and see what the hell am talking about. STOP BEING A FAN BOY. NOKIA N8 is laggy and you know it. Until Nokia drops the N9 W/Meego… I will not buy another Nokia then.
Again…. MEMORY FULL in 1 day? WTF! Fix your shit!
Sorry my friend, but you have probably never touched an N8. Because mine NEVER lags, freezes or warns me that the memory is full (with the exception of Opera Mobile that keeps complaining for “memory being full” while I have 100MB free).
N8 is an amazing anf very fast device.
Ive actually experienced a memory full msg once, the other day i opened a webpage that kept loading and loading it was up to like 10mbs (on that download counter in the top right) it just wouldnt stop and then i got the msg
i filed that off in freak occurrences and i blame that web page over the phone
Would you please stop shouting and swearing like an ill-bred child? Perhaps you had a defective device or something like that. Mine is working charming since late october.
After all you’re right about the lags. Especially when it comes to animations which could be more fluently. But the software is running pretty well and reliable.
http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=Fz3utELHCL4&feature=player_embedded
u liar u never used it ur hardware software comment tells it u read that from some us blog and pasted it here in ur words. U r a liar if required tell us we will donate some dollars so that u can buy one
Ok it’s not doomsday yet but this was foreseeable months ago and back then everybody here was still bragging about Nokia numbers.
Let’s see in 6 more months.
I’m not saying Nokia is dying but their loss of market share and its speed is disastrous and the trend continues and they derseverd it, sadly, they blew too many chances.
please for god sake tell me should i buy n8 this time or wait for n9
Wait for the N8! The N8 is horrible… well, if you’re going to use it for web… web browser is so bad! Plus, you may get a “Memory full” error in a day. I sold my N8 and bought a Blackberry… happy with my choice… I will wait for the N9 and hopefully it delivers… if not… IPHONE 5, here I come!
Android is another POS OS. Fragmentation at it’s finest!
I meant N9
Sorry dude.
If you wanna talk about blackberry, not here.
This is blog for Nokia.
Stay away from here
N8 isn’t horrible at all. You don’t get memory full errors except on very rare occations. Opening some 20 apps at the same time might give you memory full notification. And only might. Probably depends on the apps you open. Opera was one software that used to give problems, but I’m not sure if it does anymore after it got updated. At least I haven’t noticed anything.
And also the freezing you mentioned earlier isn’t normal either. My N8 don’t freeze at all. Did you ever consider that you had a defective unit? My wife’s N8 was defective and it used to freeze when it was using wlan. First the network connection would stop working and then it ultimately froze the whole phone. New one is working perfectly.
if u want windows phone OS wait vor n9 else get n8 my sis has one i personaly tell u camera will drive u crazy, display is asesome just the phone looks so chic i mean i took it for a day in a official seminar every single person askd me about it every single component is a piece of gem, symbian 3 is as always functional and robust feal improvements also multi touch ix there u will love the phone its typical nokia witha classy chic hardware and areal mature functional symbian os as always. Wish sym 3 came a few months ago……… Rather nokia sud have never came up with s60 v5 , and have accelerated the need of sym 3 they finaly got it ryt but so late……i mean 2008 2009 early 2010 they realy misd that period anc tym is money………
The growth speed of the growth speed of sales volume has dropped dramatically! Nokia is failing!
I think Nokia has increased sales every single quarter for about 20 years, and more phones than in 2007(?) when Nokias market value was 220 000 000 000€. 7% annual growth isn’t exactly what is usually interpreted as a sign of weakness, except in Nokias case.
I wonder how any customer can rejoice about APples 60 billion dollars bank account? that’s out of their own small pockets, out of the economy.
People seem to be really short sighted. They don’t seem to care about the consequenses of their choices. I refuse to buy an Apple or Google just because (1) I don’t like the idea of them gathering info about me and the (2) incompability with any standards(Apple) + (3) the fact that apple makes money with innovations other companies (Nokia) has made’ without paying for licenses even though they have the money and (4) android not being native linux (benefitting the gnu/linux community). I just like Nokia because of its honesty. I think thats enough of a reason.
Wait, honesty and ethics from Nokia? The same company that helped Iran spy on its people? That kind of honesty?
Apple dont pay patents, Android nicked coded off oracle, Rim gave in to foreign governments.
Your point ?
Did you read any comment I’ve made proclaiming Apple’s ‘honesty’?
They’re just a company, like Nokia, trying to get you to pay for their gadgets and other stuff.
Associating human values like honesty to a Billion Dollar corporation will surely end in disappointment.
buddy nokia earns from us but they have heart they giv millions in aid, they donated millions to red cross in japan, china pakistan where was apple they only know how to sell a 100 dollar shit for 600 dollar anc cheat ppl how to lie claimin credit for somethin they sudnot
yeah that kind of atleast better than stealing some one else’s IPR. How will u feel if some one kicks u out of ur house with forge papers from ur home which u build with ur money and lived for 20 yrs. Nokia pioneered gsm with 300essential patents and apple uses them for free that is why nokia’s R&D expenses are high and apple’s are less and they have more money because they take free rides……apple denies using those 300 parents that means apple’s gsm iphones are nit gsm but somethin else how rediculous .every tym ppl are not goin to be fooled by jobs and his team of cheats…..
I think we all know that Nokia has problems.
I also think it is good that finally an other OS has taken over market leadership. Good in the way that Nokia might wake up and start to chase, out-innovate, out-perform and outsell the competition. Again.
Actually, if Android wouldn’t overtake Symbian with all those manufacturers, that would be a terrible fail.
LOL, so true. Actually with all the praise and hail Android has been getting the past months Android would be dying if it weren’t to take over Symbian.
This was inevitable, so what. What I’m more concerned with is the fact that Nokia must maintain at least their current market share. If they lose another 5 points over Q1 this year it does spell bad things.
Yes, it might not happen. But most pro-Nokia people look at results from the past or tend to look at current results.
It is all about the future, while a downward trend is by no means an indicator of impending foreclosure or something it should sound the WARNING WARNING Oilila sirene (or whatever it was that was posted a few days back)
But I guess the smart folks over in Espoo have come to the same conclusion and have some very nice gems in R&D waiting to fondled by us the publis.
I read this blog a lot and I barely comment. I couldn’t keep quiet on this one. See Sony Ericsson, Acer, Samsung and all those other non-brand cell phone makers previously used Symbian as their OS.
Even then nokia still dominated since it handles both the software and hardware. All these companies just shifted to android. Android as an OS will dominate because its got a lot of OEM companies using its OS.
This will eventually cause a fool’s race in which OEMs can only differentiate their phones through specs like RAM CPU screen and camera. All Android phones will look alike and nokia should never even think of adopting it.
Acer didn’t as far as I know ever use Symbian? And Samsung used WinMo just as it used Symbian. SE did use mainly Symbian, admittedly.
But ya, gonna end up in the long run with vicious hardware competition, something that any self respecting company (at least if they have enough scale) should avoid to all ends.
I mixed up Acer S60 with symbian. Acer used palm’s OS
Totally agree with you. Only differentiating on price and specs has no future, only short-term results.
will nokia join with the gang
i think after a while all the “other ” guys will see the growth of symbianOS and shit themselves cause they should have stayed and helped out with symbian
now even sony was considering making a Symbian powered device
which is really funny but if so alot of companies will be eating their words and might go back
Why is all the media only reporting this number from one SOURCE????
Stategy Analytics still has Symbian at the top. Canalys number is also skewed because they included Android tablets like Galaxy Tab. We saw yesterday that the 2 million sold number was fake because they sold very few. I trust Strategy Analytics More!
I use the N900 and it kills both the Androids top of the line phones and the Iphone 4 and tested the galaxy s and mytouch 4g and besides the iphone 4 video recording the N900 destroys it! I be willing to bet my phone against any of these so called competitors and for the individual who traded a N8 for a Blackberry sorry you had such a horrible experience with the device but like any device made out there you probably got a bad device. I would of got a Eseries over a BB any day. Here in the states they are constantly being bias towards Nokia and the effort to push America products. Android is already in trouble with java and Apple still owes money and patents to Nokia and nothing new about that but Nokia still mess up by not taking the ui serious enough when they release the 5800
Nokia/Intel have been spending alot of time investing into Augmented Reality and this whole ui business with keeping the head up type of way to operate the smartphone. MeeGo would appear to be a success or failure for Nokia and that’s alot of pressure. It’s as if Nokia is taking on the whole world. Apple don’t have near that type of pressure and they have all sorts of issues with their device but the media don’t tell you that only tell you how great the device is but one little slip up with Nokia and it’s instant coverage. Funny though how much attention Nokia get’s over even the small things compared to anyone other company so I guess it’s a love/hate situation with the editors and nokia
to be honest im actually quite surprised that the android conglomerate surpassed symbian do the numbers include the japanese phones with symbian?
however i find it amusing, as the article says, that anyone would say this is a victory for Android considering all the manufacturers and different phone models it took to surpass Nokia
Well I no longer have a problem with my Nokia N8 as it is totally dead and I am so disgusted I’m not sure I want to deal with the local care center bullshit. I might just drop it in the trashcan and forget about it, problem solved!
no. drop it in my palms.
troll! yeah sure.. ur gonna throw away 400$ just to save ur self a trip to nokia care center… i totally believe you
NOT
The report is wrong! You should always have a critic eye when reading these kind of reports. Look at link I provided.
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/02/paging-stats-police-canalys-jumped-gun-rather-badly-android-is-not-yet-ahead-of-symbian-but-will-be-.html
Guys y all dis fuzz….every company goes thru fazes…up and down…..Nokia was down with N97…but they have come bak well with the symbian^3 device….N8 the best of the lot….iam using N8 since oct….loving the fone morw and more….plus adding version mod 4 fone is on steriods….i was movies thru my fone on my hd tv….fm transmitter is a life saver coz i take my music everywhr….camera has replaced my digi cam…..the built quality is best i have seen in a fone….i do usd bold 2 as 2nd fone only fr bbm…i dont think the way nokia is gonna bring improvements to symbian…..coz no more symbian 3 or 4….and meego around…..i was always with nokia and will stay with them……Nokia is quality,best service and best hardware……Nokia u Rock…..
“Paging Stats Police: Canalys jumped gun rather badly, Android is NOT yet ahead of Symbian (but will be soon)”
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/02/paging-stats-police-canalys-jumped-gun-rather-badly-android-is-not-yet-ahead-of-symbian-but-will-be-.html