Video: History of Nokia – by cnetuk
cnetUK takes a look at the history of Nokia and have produced a 3 minute presentation video on it. For Nokia fans this is something we’re all familiar with, but this video probably isn’t for us.
Luke takes a look at Nokia’s phone past, noting the N95 (though pictured is N95 8GB) having everything we come to expect in smartphones today, (even to ‘primitive’ form of apps.)
Then a critical moment when iPhone arrived and Nokia did not have the right response.
Something that will hurt your ears, they note then the N8 which they say “sucked”.
Finally now they note Nokia’s new direction to put Symbian and MeeGo aside, to go for Windows Phone. Ahh, how everyone dismisses Symbian but completely forget something awesome called Maemo.
Since 2007 we have been looking for another N95. Nokia had many opportunities back then to create a super powered flagship to prop up the hardware side, compensating for the poor software, but we didn’t really see that either. Continued self flagellation and an attempt to make it as easy for the competition as possible puts Nokia where it is today.
I hope that in the next couple of years Nokia will become a serious contender again, and not the forever underdog it seems to be. I don’t really care with what OS. But the longer it takes them to do anything, the harder it becomes to get back to the top.
In this video, Luke Westaway delves deep into the history of mobile phone giant Nokia, lingering over moments from the glorious to obscure. Pretty much all of us have owned a Nokia at some point, or at least used a mate’s for a cheeky game of Snake, but this Finnish company has an unusual past and an uncertain future. Hit play for Luke’s witty and enlightening take on the history of this household name.
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I find it funny when such a piece is penned by someone at cnet, a site which has ceased to be relevant for at least 5, if not 10 years.
still can’t move on. put your hands covering your ears and yell , “NOKIA IS STILL NUMBER ONE!!!”
That may be true or not, but CNet are still a complete joke.
According to Gartner, they still are. http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1764714. For how long…
see in iPhone you can’t even delete photos, videos, music(which are copied to your iPhone via itunes) from your phone unless you connect it to itunes, it only sync’s with one library.
My case:
I’m a big……. fan of Backstreet Boys(BSB) and want to listen their songs which i had in my x6 and want to copy them to iPhone and the actual problem is they are some songs in it which are synced in another itunes library and if i try to copy BSB songs it say “Erase & sync” “itunes can’t sync your iphone, because it is synced with another itunes library”. This is a big f**king hell for me.
Not only music it won’t syn music, photos, videos on your iPhone which is synced with another itunes library.
can’t download or upload from your browser the what the f**k would you need 7.2 MBPS HSDPA and 5 MBPS HSUPA????
–No file manager.
–can’t download or upload songs, movies, videos & no flash.
–cheap quality camera.
–can’t copy songs unless you have itunes.
–can’t send photos via Bluetooth unless you have an app to send,it only connects to accessories.
–has good animations( when we tap on an app, GPU animates while CPU initialize the app so we fell its fast. Symbian doesn’t have animations so we feel it’s slow)
–you really get entertained only when you have games or apps.
–no FM receiver or transmitter.
–Apple is very greed, we have to buy everything for basic needs.
–Still more to say.
Coming to android
–After using Samsung galaxy sII ( my friends ) I understood why everyone wants android even though the icons, UI look like 80′s, that’s because it has many apps which we find in App Store.
–My friend said “Battery dies very soon”.
–Battery can’t even live for two full days unless you make only call.
–but to say the icons look outdated and even S^3 icons look very good before android icons.
–No doubt they may even release 3.6 GHz Quad-core or Hexa-core or Octa-core processor for android, but it is useless.
– minimum processor clock speed 600MHz
Coming to Nokia
–Provides Good Quality Hardware.
–Symbian is good and it is my favorite OS.(iOS and Android are also good only in performance)
–Is more open than f**king restricted iOS and little free Android.
–Has FM receiver/transmitter.
–has best in class camera lenses.
–I can play the way i want and experiment.(you can do this with jailbroken iOS, but not tooooo much which is done by Symbian)
–can run smooth even in 300 MHz.
–Has best GPU.
–Symbian is most powerful OS as far as I saw in Mobile.
–Many Many Many more to say I’ll make a list and tell you all readers.
See readers Nokia is very good and provides you everything but wait it isn’t free now it’s working hard like makin WP7, S40, and many more………. so we just have to wait and it will surly take some time(little).
All Nokia needs is some time and you Nokia fan-boy encouragement.
+1
the huge reason why nokia is so messed up right now is…..this……they are not themselves anymore and people need to be fired and the older teams need to be put back….,elop is removing all of nokia’s original people for some microsoft lackies….and the fact that Nokia left everything behind just to please the usa instead of the world like they’ve always been…elop actuall messed up nokia….,he’ just doin what he was told…..which is sickening
Sorry, But SGS2 is not that bad.. Using it for a month after using N8 for 10 months..
wtf that phone just came out ….,i’m 10 months …..,
Sgs2 Is out for 5 months now.. I love n8, but cannot ignore this samsung beast..
You sir .. are a gentlemen ! 10000000000 + !
lol cnet….
Oh dear, I hope no one on this site is opening themselves to believing CNet’s opinion on anything, SURELY?
If they say the N8 sucked the entire video is an automatic fail. Not because it’s wrong to have that opinion but because the N8 clearly did not suck on any level. Saying it sucked is classic Android/iPhone-fan-rubbish.
The iPhone was barely a featurephone when it first came out for goodness sakes!
By the way CNet also did hatchet jobs on the N8 in their review of it when better more knowledgeable sites like the much respected anandtech.com did a proper fair job of it.
But still, you guys listen to CNet if you want…
> “and not the forever underdog it seems to be.”
You realise you’ve just been taken in by perception like all the rest? Seriously, don’t go with the crowd. Try looking at the facts. The facts are Symbian alone is so not an underdog, it’s STILL the 2nd or 3rd most popular smartphone OS in the world, and Gartner even had it on top recently didn’t it? Nokia Store is 2nd best performing in the world. Nokia hardware is MILES out in front of any manufacturer, and S40 is by far the largest featurephone OS in the world too, selling several hundred million a year.
Nokia isn’t even close to being an underdog. Seriously you guys need to stop listening to and believing the total bullshit spouted by Apple/Android fans and start looking at the ACTUAL FACTS.
Perception of Nokia is that is IS an underdog. Despite the market share, Symbian’s reputation is in the mud, unfortunately. This isn’t the first time I’ve said that Nokia is (perceived) as the underdog.
In terms of products, the portfolio, it is clearly lacking and we can’t just bury our heads in the sand or rejoice in previous accomplishments.
Nokia MUST show the world themselves their successes. They MUST turn perception. The image of Nokia right now is not what it used to be, you cannot deny that. Nokia is thought of either as old or cheap disposable. These are tough things to accept as a Nokia fan, and frustrating because we know what Nokia is capable of, yet, we are still just always hoping. Always hoping. Ever since N95 just hoping for another phone like that. Seeing Symbian touch, just hoping. Seeing 5800 and N97, just hoping that they will improve that piece of crap s60 5th. We thought they saw the light when they unveiled Maemo 5 but then they threw that away to Intel who have mangled it into Tizen with Intel.
Tell me where the compelling product is? Apart from the N9 which clearly still isn’t the very best Nokia can do. (N8 still has better camera, there’s no HDMI or USBOTG etc) There is no dual core to satisfy the US blogs (though they have been pretty happy so far with N9 on launch). The portfolio and image of Nokia as it is is poor, it is what you expect from an underdog.
But they’re the biggest underdog. They do, if they pull their fingers out, can get back to the top. This is why I’m still ever hopeful.
“Nokia MUST show the world themselves their successes. They MUST turn perception.”
The February 11th loser move wasn’t a step in the right direction. Nokia capitulates. That’s the spirit of winners.
“The February 11th loser move wasn’t a step in the right direction. Nokia capitulates. That’s the spirit of winners.”
That announcement was a HUGE risk. Whether or not it succeeds is another story. But taking risks is what winners do. Do you really think that Nokia staying still would change anything? They needed a change. Let’s hope they made the right choice. Only time will tell.
“That announcement was a HUGE risk. Whether or not it succeeds is another story. But taking risks is what winners do”
Winners don’t give up the fight. That’s what Nokia did. It was all over the net in February.
Elop said : “Its’ a battle of ecosystems” and removed Nokia’s from the fight. That is the loser move.
you are indeed trapped in a “nokia is number one” universe. dude, read articles, read blogs, read reviews (biased or unbiased), read all those gadget/tech sites … neh … oh well there’s no point arguing to a ninja
numbers are there….nokia is still first
so ninja has a buddy now… nice
What’s wrong w/ you people? Nokia’s numbers are (and have been) dropping. If being #1 is all you care about while the competition is nipping at your feet, you’ll soon see them pass you by (as has become the case w/ Android and iOS soon).
just saying what i see…….they still need to get their shit together cause google,apple and microsoft are mangling nokia and Microsoft is the closest in Nokia now…..this still seems like a team effort to take out nokia……this really needs to be exploited
The first iPhone was indeed not even on par with S40 phones. But does that really matter? No, it became succesful.
The N8 on the other hand, it doesn’t suck on any level? I beg to differ; mine does suck with a few things. Email retrieval, touchscreen responsiveness, general lag all over the place and some more things.
However, the build and camera quality are right up there. They just forgot to marry the hardware to some stellar software. But the hardware isn’t miles in front though, or are you saying that an ARM11 processor is miles ahead of a Cortex A9 or that 256MB RAM is way better than 512? Or that 13mm thickness is better than 9mm or that 1200mAh battery is better than the same colume 1600mAh?
Owh, and Nokia is the underdog. Maybe not in Asia and Afrika. But here in Europe they most definitly are. Phone shops are stocked with every Android you would want, iPhones and generally everything not Nokia. If you want to see or even try a Nokia in the shops you would have a hard time to find one.
have you even touched belle yet on your n8
It’s not official. You can’t buy an N8 with Belle. Phone shops can’t show Belle with N8. Not applicable.
And Belle was what the original N8 software should have been. But Nokia’s execution is one year behind even it’s own plans (N8 one year late, Belle one year late, N9 one year late), and two years behind the rest of the market. These two years of missed execution give Nokia’s competitors the opportunity to sell new features as if they’ve invented them, that Nokia already has in development (but not launched any phone with). Example, NFC.
Do you think person(s) who had purchased N8 in q4 of 2010 or Q1 2011 would wait for software update which will turn his 12mp camera into usable smartphone?
dream on you typical n8 fanboy
As the two people above me already pointed out, I might be able to get Belle on my N8 and I would probably even be happy with that.
However, it isn’t available to the people who are buying phones right now. If Belle becomes officially available (larger numbers, not just 1 device) it could help Nokia sell some more units just because of the appeal it would have in stores.
The thing is though, Nokia haven’t had something like Belle to showcase what they can do since basically the N95. From the N95 till now there haven’t really been any captivating devices, at least not without making compromises in some way.
How did it happen? My guess is simple pencil pushers that looked at budget alone. Nokia was doing good a few years back. So the strategy of maximizing profits at expense of very good devices could pay off. But by keeping that strategy for years they eroded brand value and the general perception of quality they have/had.
One last chance though, reading through blog comments about WP there are a whole load of people waiting just on Nokia to deliver a nice WP handset. Yes, they are paid MS fanboys that wouldn’t comment otherwise. Seriously though, Nokia still has sentimental value for a lot of people, they can capitalize on that when they make something like the N95 again.
Not in particular a device that is groundbreaking in terms of features, but groundbreaking in the way that it is something different than what Nokia has been putting otut over the past years.
Yes, once upon a time there was a leader of innovation in mobile industry brave enough to push ideas ahead others were scared to even just think of becomes a one’s big company assembly line manufacturer producing boring phones you can buy pretty much at every corner of China … what an achievement … well done Nokiasoft …
Thought it was a balanced informative vid, no fanboyism could be seen, fairly honest, the N8 blew chunks from Epsoo to Salo, they were right, but they were hopeful that it could make a come back, the truth of the matter is Nokia still has a place in many hearts, as for essentially the entire 2G GSM time period they ruled the roost, maybe the n95 8Gb (which I still use daily) is their peak, hopefully not.
It is still going to be another year to know if they can recover at all, or if they will slide into feature phone territory then disappear, they are there at the moment.
Looks like symbian+department infighting sunk the company basically, they wouldnt give up on it as they had sunk 10000 devs*8 years into it ?
As for Elop, well what do you do if you arrive to take over and the whole thing is falling apart ? He had to break the ties with the past, which he did.
Its just so pathetic, now Sep 2011, what do they have on offer that anyone wants to buy in the UK ? Symbian Belle with EDOF – E6\E7\X7\701\700\600 WTF are they thinking ? EDOF is for dumb phones where the cost of a focusing lens is 20% of the price, not <1%. All the previous range have big issues – E6\E7\N8\X7 – nobody wants them.
Hoping they can pull it together soon.
“As for Elop, well what do you do if you arrive to take over and the whole thing is falling apart ? He had to break the ties with the past, which he did. ”
What he has been given was a company whose handset and device division never failed to post profits, a more than a decade long streak, who had a good credit and debt rating, good carrier relations, whose smartphone sales were still growing and which was recovering from the summer 2010 lows, stock price and ASP of devices.
Currently the situation, as far as we know is worse than even the 2010 lows, fraught with uncertainties. With the farm bet on an OS which so far has failed to make an impact on the market place. And even if WP7 manages to reach 20%, how much of that share will Nokia have?
One thing; can you (or we) say with a straight face that those profits from every division would continue even without Elop?
It can’t be said ofcourse, but it’s worth looking at it from that angle as well. One indicator that keeps coming back to me is the channel stuffing and undercutting of price by OPK. Those things could have unnaturally boosted sales in late 2010. A drop in 2011 would be inevitable.
However, it’s all hypothetical.
“One thing; can you (or we) say with a straight face that those profits from every division would continue even without Elop?”
I can say with a straight face that he hadn’t opened his mouth this wouldn’t have happened :
Q1 2011 +690€ M
Q2 2011 -247€ M *despite* +475€ M patent settlement from Apple.
“It can’t be said ofcourse, but it’s worth looking at it from that angle as well. One indicator that keeps coming back to me is the channel stuffing and undercutting of price by OPK. Those things could have unnaturally boosted sales in late 2010. A drop in 2011 would be inevitable.”
Let’s say for the sake of the argument that you’re right. I repeat :
Q1 2011 +690€ M
Q2 2011 -247€ M *despite* +475€ M patent settlement from Apple.
Seriously? In the course of *one* quarter? And why now? Why the quarter just after he EOLed his product line? Man, that Elop dude is really unlucky.
Unless we look very specific at all the expenses and income from the mobile division there is no real way to say why this loss occured.
True, Elop’s 11/2 might have had a significant effect. But maybe the mobile division made some very big write offs which caused the loss on the balance sheet.
This is just a thought however, I never really dove into the entire numbers so I also don’t know. But I’m not inclined to believe the whole Elop theory and that the WP decision alone caused the loss that they suffered.
Just to stress the point; I don’t mean to say that WP is a winner or Elop is a winner or that the entire strategy will be a winner. I’m just trying to make more sense of it all than just saying: Elop did it, Elop did it.
This is what Horace Dediu asked a few days after the announcement :
“One could question why would anyone buy a product whose platform that’s been declared end of life. Perhaps there is a built-in assumption that end users are inherently stupid. However even in that scenario the question is which distributors will make the same bet with Nokia? Or, even more perplexing, which operators are willing to stock EOL products for two years when that shelf space is getting strong bids from Nokia’s rivals.”
Do you have an answer for him?
Why did the investors – those who have *serious* money riding on this – bolted on the very same day of the announcement?
Further more. Why did Elop came out and proclaimed just 5 days before the end of May profit warning – probably another coincidence no doubt – that the infamous “Burning Platform” would be supported till 2016, if not more?
Yeah, but those profits were collapsing, not just slowing down, 25%yoy down, even with 300M€ profit, thats nothing when you have had to sell 100M phones and pay 110,000 employees, when you are at the point of making a cup of coffee in profit per phone then you dont have far to go.
The shares only picked up in 2010 due to the expectation of the Symbian^3 brigade, it took a few months to realise that these were duds in comparison to the market leaders.
The only reason they were sold at all was due to heavy discounts (to below point of manufacture) and channel stuffing. So they made alot of them, put them in the channel, then lost money on them all. But that fact wouldn’t be realised until the next quarter when Elop had to stand up and say “its a failure”.
There is no need to debate whether these phones were good enough for the market or not, Nokia had to offload these at around £200+ to the operators, the iPhone4 was going for almost 3 times that, Androids twice that, the S^3′s were a monumental failure in terms of generating income and restoring Nokia’s name.
The truth would have come out sometime, and just might have taken the company down, at least when Elop announced it, he had a plan to try to salvage the situation rather than just ignoring everything and continue down the same path. If it had have come out without that the shares would have probably collapsed totally and Nokia would have been shuttered and bought for its IP.
Whats happened with Nokia isnt an overnight issue ala Feb 18, its been years of faulty thinking and direction in the making. This is just the finality of the path that was taken.
“Yeah, but those profits were collapsing, not just slowing down, 25%yoy down, even with 300M€ profit, thats nothing when you have had to sell 100M phones and pay 110,000 employees, when you are at the point of making a cup of coffee in profit per phone then you dont have far to go.”
Devices and Services division.
Q4 2010 +1018€ M (traditionnally the best quarter of the year).
Q1 2011 +690€ M
Q2 2011 -247€ M *despite* +475€ M patent settlement from Apple.
BTW Nokia is/was about connecting people, not just rich people. That’s one of the reason why they are/were liked.
Look at that collapse. Elop even had to stress that Symbian would have to be supported at least till 2016. He stressed that they had to sustain the business (could have thought of it before EOLing the current product with no replacement, but that would have made far too much sense and WP7 was dying out there).
He was even on record on saying that the difficulties of the transition manifested in a greater way than anticipated.
“The shares only picked up in 2010 due to the expectation of the Symbian^3 brigade, it took a few months to realise that these were duds in comparison to the market leaders.”
Or maybe the investors saw that it was a step in the good direction with the app store picking up and the ASP too.
And as luck would have it, the shares collapsed on the announcement, and a quarter later, so did the profits.
“The only reason they were sold at all was due to heavy discounts (to below point of manufacture) and channel stuffing. So they made alot of them, put them in the channel, then lost money on them all.”
You of course have evidence to back it up? Because the figures that I have contradict you.
“But that fact wouldn’t be realised until
the next quarter when Elop had to stand up and say “its a failure”.”
Ha ha ha. The fact that he EOLed the current product of his company with no replacement ready is the failure as evidenced by the collapse of the Devices and Services division.
Why do you think that the investors bolted to the nearest exit as soon as he made his great announcement?
In opening his mouth he just made his work more difficult. He messed up. Don’t try to pass it on OPK. It’s Elop’s fault.
I heard that he already antagonized O2 in the UK, it will surely help move his precious Windows Phones.
Q1 2011 +690€ M for 108M phones, yeah you are right, no idea where i got 300M€ from !
Two cups of coffee per handset then
Q4 2010 +1018€ M for 123M handsets, 3 cups ?
For months I’ve been offered a N8 on 24M contract for £14 on O2, total £336 for 2 years. Extract what the network needs to cover a sub (approx £5pm) and you are left with the cost of the handset.
In 2010 many were moved to customers for free with network renewals@£20pm.
You believe Elop is responsible for Nokia Fail, thats fine too. But if you look in the Finnish press, they have printed stories of the rot setting in along time ago.
As for the shares collapsing on the announcement, well they did but they were also boosted artificially before the announcement. Before April 2010 the share price was doing ok as investors believed they had a competitive product portfolio in development. The price dropped by almost 50% when they missed the planned launch date by June, then it picked up as again as there was hope. On the Elop announcement – the share value only dropped 15%.
There is alot of info available if you look for it on channel stuffing, irregularities in some countries.
Elop has looked at Nokias Achilles heel which was software development, and canned it for better or worse. How bizarre that the billions of euros waisted on Symbian was to keep MS from taking over the phone business.
Strange times
“You believe Elop is responsible for Nokia Fail, thats fine too. But if you look in the Finnish press, they have printed stories of the rot setting in along time ago. ”
No, I believe that Elop is responsible for the bas Q2 2011 results. Not the same thing.
“Elop has looked at Nokias Achilles heel which was software development, and canned it for better or worse.”
Or he is an MS dude doing his best to help his mentor’s struggling platform.
“How bizarre that the billions of euros waisted on Symbian was to keep MS from taking over the phone business.”
I’ll add that to the list of things to blame Elop for.
“I’ll add that to the list of things to blame Elop for.”
To be fair on him, he was prob at Adobe at that point.
Maybe Elop was the final nail in the coffin ?
I don’t see the Q2 2011 results as all his fault, he may have caused some of it, goes without saying. He may be eventually responsible for either its rescue or demise.
But they wouldn’t have had to get in an outsider unless they had abandoned hope internally, which seems to have occurred.
I don’t really care if Nok makes a profit or not, I hold no shares either (thank god), but Im still pissed @ nok as I really still want a replacement for my N95 8gb, and in 2009,2010,2011 they still haven’t produced it yet. I dont like android,ios,wp7 either. Maybe they will by 2012 ? Can you help them ?
You have to take into account that the announcement came not because the platform was doing great and they were celebrating by throwing piles of euro’s onto the sauna fire while drinking beer in the buff, (beside my ex brother in laws house in finland no less, lovely place).
It came as it had fallen to pieces. And by Q1 the great white hope was realised to be non-existant. The game (that they had been keeping going for over a year) was up. Thinking about it essentially politics screwed them, I dont think anyone doubts that they could have engineered a marvellous OS years ago. But they wanted to keep Symbian going and therefore didnt give enough resource to Maemo or whatever its called.
Damm shame and the wrong call.
Elop went on the offensive, rather than having to defend the Q1 results when they came out.
“Elop went on the offensive, rather than having to defend the Q1 results when they came out.”
What was wrong with Q1 results?
A mere two months into the job, he was already talking to his mentor about bringing in WP7.
It’s interesting that when shit hit the fan, he pledged that the infamous “Burning Platform” would be supported till 2016, if not more. I wonder why?
Erm, Q1 2011 +690€ M
Q4 2010 +1018€ M
ok, just a 328€M drop in profits, in 3 months, maybe they lost it under the bed or something, or 33% fall, either way thats generally not regarded as good even for this quarter, not even thinking about the trend or upcoming quarters.
he would have got hell for this alone, even if he had come late to the party and couldn’t affect any of it.
it was going to be bad news anyway, might as well bring it all out and blame something else : previous faulty strategy
“ok, just a 328€M drop in profits, in 3 months, maybe they lost it under the bed or something, or 33% fall, either way thats generally not regarded as good even for this quarter, not even thinking about the trend or upcoming quarters.”
Q4 is traditionally the best quarter of the year, since the sales are the best for the end of the year holidays.
+1, i have 2 nokia phones, my old n73 and my new c7, but the n73′s picture quality is far superior(on my views).
165 yeras ……. woooow
google >>>>> 13 yeras *_*
i think they had mangled into this shit so they had to get out of their own, and even in the shit also they had produced n9(the best device ever in many aspects) bt they do not want n9 to suceed as far as i knw elop had done this because he only talks wp and no other official spoke about wp’s bt still i get the feeling thatnokia will do well with windows mobile os and will rock the world definitely if thf they use swipe UI.
the symbian is now with accenture group we don’t knw that in what shape it will come out.
Go to the video and downvote. Fug Cnet.
This video is propaganda garbage!
Nokia was not founded solely by Fredrik Idestam, but by him and Leo Mechelin. Rest of the history is kinda pretty badly represented also. Sort of off-topic, but later Mechelin became prime minister and his goverment made Finland the first country on earth to give everyone the right to vote, irrespective of race, gender, religion or ethnicity.
Sadly his negative view of Nokia is correct. Elop is destroying that century and half of history. Nokia is toast.
From Nokia…
+ Best satnav
+ Best networking and calls
+ Best multitasking
+ Best security
+ Best hardware quality
+ Best camera on phone
+ …
Even today!
and that was all from symbian/maemo/meego…..no other os is that safe
hi. Why didn’t the windoze tracking users fiasco didn’t make it here at mynokiablog?
symbian always get slagged but msft underhanded tactics get a pass
Just read some blog mentioned that Nokia is giving money for developer to write application for WP ! This is corruption ! Can’t think this can happen to developed country’s company like Nokia paying this kind of game, normally this type of business only happen in 3rd world.
I think we need to prepare to let go Nokia for this moment.
Incorrectly titled thread IMO. “Nokia is history” would’ve been more appropriate.