Video: Speed Comparison – Nokia Lumia 800 vs Samsung Omnia 7
Here’s a video looking at one of the first gen Windows Phones against the Nokia Lumia 800. You will note that with updated hardware, the Lumia 800 is faster and smoother.
Windows Phone has been noted particularly for its speed on ‘just’ single core. A little bit like Symbian Belle on 701 or N9 right? It’s not power hungry like certain other OSes that like to brag about dual core.
Something known to most WP users is that despite the similarities in core hardware, some WPs are faster than others. There may be better optimisation or they may be use of actual flash memory instead of a memory card to install apps on (making loading faster). From 7, to Nodo there were already marked improvements in speed, even further in Mango.
When you have two phones on Mango, the improved hardware helps push the experience a bit further – things are much snappier, you get more frames so the visuals are smoother.
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- Nokia Lumia 800 And Samsung Omnia Performance Compared | WMPoweruser | November 20, 2011
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Pwned
it’s slightly faster plus it’s 1st gen WP7 vs 2 gen
Yup, on one game. Needs more comparison.
Omnia 7 was the fastest of the first gen bunch. Still visible improvements.
Hahaha Jay, love the name of the photo, Lemme guess histology exam coming up?
Something like that :p
!!! point of view wholeheartedly endorsed
(although i still have long until those 
)
The LG Optimus 7 was the fastest there Are quite a few YouTube videos you can check.
what about everything else…the game looks really crappy as well ..>.>
I’ve never heard of it. Bad example of WP type games. Should see some of the xbox live titles. Will be showing some off soon.
i could careless about the tiles….sorry if i sound rude…but they are constantly moving and it’s annoying plus huge tiles O.O where are to so called great games on WP7 …
IloMilo, Tentacles, The Harvest, Rocket Riot, Monster Up, Kinectimals, Bye Bye Brain are all great games and only on Windows Phone. You should try playing them.
Not much to look at form a graphics comparison, but its interested to see that even though both devices have more than enough power to run the game properly (considering its WP), didn’t expect a difference.
Nokia sailed away and left Samsung sitting at the dock.
Hahahahaha
+1
Yes WP7 is smooth, but it is due to it’s simple design. (not commenting right now if the simplicity is good or bad, just stating a fact)
If you look for a smooth and “a lot of things are going on” OS then the best is hands down MeeGo. It runs amazingly well on 1 GHz considering how much multitasking is going on.
WP has no real multitasking just list of apps you had used. (as far as I know)
Then there is Android which has a lot of stuff going on, so it requires loads of more power. But from my experience the higher end Androids don’t lag at all.
..So there were some thoughts on the matter.
..And on the actual comparison, isn’t this somewhat unfair? I mean Omnia 7 isn’t the best WP-phone available from Samsung, nor is it from the same price range.
(correct me if I am wrong)
“..And on the actual comparison, isn’t this somewhat unfair? I mean Omnia 7 isn’t the best WP-phone available from Samsung, nor is it from the same price range.
(correct me if I am wrong)”
No, all comparisons are fair it depends what you are trying to show.
I think I clearly pointed out that the samsung was 1st gen and older hardware. It was just showing that it did make a difference (though what they demoed was really insufficient to see all the speed changes)
True, although it would be interesting to see how the Nokia 800 compares with other high end Windows phones now. (If you have already posted a video of this, then I am sorry as I haven’t noticed that)
Not sure I’ve come across them yet. Will take a look. I’ve seen camera comparisons where N9/800 just unfortunately lose
8xx sadly isn’t Nokia’s high end. It’s the mass market device, just high enough but still not the best to go up against HTC’s or Samsung’s top dogs. But it’s holding its own I think in most places (except of course where it’s missing on features).
The 9xx will be most interesting. That will mostly have no excuses if it falters on certain things that other WPs have (unless it’s stupidly slim). Hopeing it packs the strongest punch. No more catching up. Want some leap frogging.
“Not sure I’ve come across them yet. Will take a look. I’ve seen camera comparisons where N9/800 just unfortunately lose”
Yeah. =/ But as far as I know nothing beats the N8′s camera.
..They really have to add that or a better one in more of their phones.
“8xx sadly isn’t Nokia’s high end.”
It’s just a bit weird that while this is not supposed to be Nokia’s high end phone, it is marketed and priced as one.. Could it be that Nokia simply can’t compete with the hardware?
“The 9xx will be most interesting”
Indeed..personally I hope that Nokia will release other than WP for those..but I’m not sure how likely that is.
“Yeah. =/ But as far as I know nothing beats the N8′s camera. ..They really have to add that or a better one in more of their phones.”
Of course. It’s a trooper
The successor can’t come soon enough though.
“It’s just a bit weird that while this is not supposed to be Nokia’s high end phone, it is marketed and priced as one.. Could it be that Nokia simply can’t compete with the hardware?”
Considering the late entry of Nokia and their usual “I’ll take forever to design and launch a phone” what the public got with the 800 was good. It’s marketed and priced that way I guess because No one wants to show it off as a mid range phone. The marketing’s not gonna work unless you/they really ‘big it up’. Notice most ads don’t scream about the hardware/spec side. It’s high end in external appearance (N9) and the user experience over all is very high.
Is it because Nokia can’t compete in high end hardware? I questioned that before. I’ve heard stories of some difficulties getting dual core into Symbian, getting the right hardware architecture for MeeGo etc. There’s also the classic “I’m Nokia and I make the worst compromises” e.g. the Symbian hardware when Samsung and S.E. was there?
Having said that, that was the time when Nokia put the balance sheet ahead of what was necessary to deliver the best user experience.
What ever is possible in WP Nokia should be able to push too. It’s just whether they’ll be able to join the dick-bragging contest against Android users that point out their dual and soon quadcore CPUs, I don’t know. The only thing that will really limit WP and other platforms that can’t reach Android hardware is if there are specific and significant apps requiring dual/quadcore to work or work properly.
All in all, like the mantra of Symbian, it doesn’t need that high end hardware. And truly, even with tons of apps, for 8 months, WP will not slow down.
”Indeed..personally I hope that Nokia will release other than WP for those..but I’m not sure how likely that is.”
I think Nokia has said many times the high end WP will come in 2012.
In general I agree with your thoughts, I just have to correct one misunderstanding.
“I think Nokia has said many times the high end WP will come in 2012.”
What I was trying to say before, but I wrote in a pretty unclear way, was that I hope that Nokia will also have high end Symbian phones available along the WP ones. (of course MeeGo phones would be fantastic..but what are the chances of that happening?)
“If you look for a smooth and “a lot of things are going on” OS then the best is hands down MeeGo. It runs amazingly well on 1 GHz considering how much multitasking is going on.”
I’m not disputing that.
“WP has no real multitasking just list of apps you had used. (as far as I know)”
Hasn’t affected all those iOS users. It’s a shame that it’s not like MeeGo/Maemo in some ways. It used to be what us Symbian/Maemo users pointed out against iOS users but really, no body gives a damn. It works for the most part. It lets me switch between apps that are doing something or downloading something or loading something or whatever.
“Then there is Android which has a lot of stuff going on, so it requires loads of more power. But from my experience the higher end Androids don’t lag at all.”
High end Androids are way ahead of the rest in terms of hardware. Whether they need it or can actually utilise it is another thing.
Put Android on the same thing as WP/MeeGo-Harmattan/Symbian and Android will of course be the laggy one (though with Symbian, it has to be on Belle)
“..So there were some thoughts on the matter.”
Welcomed exchange of thoughts
“Hasn’t affected all those iOS users. It’s a shame that it’s not like MeeGo/Maemo in some ways.”
It’s true that in general it doesn’t matter that much..but if it is done as well as with MeeGo it really feels like a downgrade to go back from that.
I have heard that the new Android version has pretty good multitasking, much like Symbian, but apparently smoother.
For me good multitasking is a pretty good advantage for an OS.
Yeah, in many ways there are still plenty of things both Symbian and MeeGo-Harmattan that users would feel as a downgrade. If that’s too important for those users, then in no way can any WP be an option.
For those where those things in Sym/Mee aren’t as crucial, well they might have a better time giving the WP platform a go.
I don’t know too much about the new android multitasking. I’ve watched a keynote by Larry Page and some random videos where they talk about the new style of Android multitasking but didn’t really pay attention.
When I have the Lumia 800 I’ll talk more about the multitasking in WP. What I like, and what I don’t like about it. (for me it’s good enough, though as more of a power user, some things do get annoying, such as the limitation of just 5 main cards of which a browser tab takes up that extra space. That’s good in a way but bad in that the 6th card has disappeared…Haven’t been paying much attention to Mango on my Omnia7, I already recall certain things just felt nicer on the 800 so will give my opinion on that hardware.).
Agreed with your points. Hopefully you will enjoy the Nokia 800.
Thanks for the healthy discussion!
Jay
I need to point out some errors. ios even the first version had multi-tasking. What consumers confuse is multi-tasking and managing multiple applications at once. Mutli-tasking is simply the ability to run multiple processes which all mobile o/s do.
Android and Symbian manage the application more akin to what we are used to on a desktop machine. Ios provides 7 specific background services for APPS
Background audio – Allows your app to play audio continuously.
– Voice over IP – Users can now receive VoIP calls and have conversations while using another app.
– Background location – Navigation apps can now continue to guide users who are using other apps
– Push notifications – Receive alerts from your remote servers even when your app isn’t running.
– Local notifications – Your app can now alert users of scheduled events and alarms in the background, no servers required.
– Task finishing – If your app is in mid-task when your customer leaves it, the app can now keep running to finish the task.
– Fast app switching – This will allow users to leave your app and come right back to where they were when they left – no more having to reload the app.
I have not looked at Wp architecture but like ios WP restricts apps to a number of services which the app developers can hook into. Remember we cannot directly exit an app – that is left to the o/s to manage.
Then Apple markets their way of managing applications as “multitasking done properly” which again is off the mark.
All the designs you stated are simple. iOS icons, meego swipe, and Wp tiles.
And what does the design of the os got to do with the multitasking ability?
Just my opinion on meego, although you know I’m in a Wp post, is that app availability is low.
“All the designs you stated are simple. iOS icons, meego swipe, and Wp tiles”
I don’t think I mentioned iOS, MeeGo has lot going on because of the swipe and multitasking. (Meaning, that in WP you click, new tiles open, in MeeGo it actually has to process throughout the swipe while usually multitasking loads of apps)
“And what does the design of the os got to do with the multitasking ability?”
When did I ever state so?
“And what does the design of the os got to do with the multitasking ability?”
When did I ever state so?”
Or if you mean that I said that they are different..well they clearly are. What more is there to it?
You mean the swipe ui has a lot going for it. And my bad, you said android, but they share similar ui designs anyway.
The ability to multitask…. Can only be truly tested whenheavy apps are being run in the background or when certain functions are available, for instance can the web browser be pointed to a music streaming website and play the music while minimized? Can the YouTube app play music in the background? I do not own a n9 so I can’t tell. All I know is on Symbian there is no such function. Heck, even scrolling in a YouTube page while a video is playing pauses the video. I think and hope they fix that.
The simplicity of the design does not mean that Wp cannot multitask. Just a disagreement.
You mention that the N9 has a lot going on with swipe, but I don’t see the big difference with WP’s panoramic view. That also has to load a lot of stuff at once yet it does it all smoothly. Granted it isn’t OS wide, but all the hubs use the approach and a lot of apps as well. The OS has to load a lot of stuff at once to avoid lag inside the hub or apps and behold there is no lag there.
You also mentioned multitasking earlier. It does do it. I can enter a URL in IE and let it load while doing other stuff at the same time. It isn’t. As functional as Symbian is but for the majority it will do fine. I do miss some things in WP still though, but I’ll do a write up of that maybe tomorrow or later this week. If there are any special requests what to test or show do share them.
Typed on the excellent Lumia 800 keyboard.
Oh, I forgot to mention this..the app on the video is a Minecraft ripoff! =S
+1
Nokia has no chance against the Asian cartel
I’ll tell you this as a guy who’s from the Southeast Asia region, people are getting sick of the uninspired design of the ”Asian cartel”. Look at their laptops for example. Same goes with their phones. Well, mostly.
Interesting comparison Jay, considering our argument in the other thread. So Lumia 800 is, in fact faster in certain instances than others. Good to know!
And I’ll have to retract on my comment about it.
Hi. I’m the one that made this video. It was simply meant to show how much smoother the Lumia is on the one game that I’ve found that seemed to choke the Omnia. I was on the fence about “upgrading” to the Lumia for a long time, and I hoped the video might help someone in the same position.
I recorded it because I was surprised how much faster the Lumia is. I wasn’t expecting such a speed increase.
And after a few days use, I can confirm that this speed increase is present across the board. All games and apps load faster, and graphics-intensive stuff is smoother.