Nokia N8 successor has curved screen?
Another day another bit of info from dsmobile, resident Nokia insider, about the Nokia N8 successor. Whilst talking about the upcoming Nokia Lumia 900 he mentions that the next ‘camera phone’ will have a curved screen.
I’m liking the sound of that, particularly since oddly, Nokia has chosen to change the curved screen on the Lumia 800′s big sister, the Lumia 900 to a flat screen with a seemingly horrid raised bezel. Just my opinion though, I despise raised bezels. I hope the N8 successor does not look like another iPhone in a case. AKA, curved rectangle and the Nokia tapered edges. Whilst those tapered edges make it slightly different, it WASTES SO MUCH DAMN SPACE.
That phone should be slimmer. It’s just too fat for that size of the device. Also flat screen makes it look N9 gone bad as I told before. Even the screen is flat but edges should been curved like they are in Next camera phone and it just looks much better.
10mm from middle and small curve to that screen edge and that would be much better. Now it has metal around the screen and that feels sharp.
Now he could have been talking about any next Nokia as they all have cameras, and are essentially all camera phones, but to distinguish a model by calling it camera phone suggests it’s the one that will succeed the Nokia N8. Not only is the N8 successor sporting a curved screen, it’s looking much better than the Nokia Lumia 900.
update: EE asked:
Hey dsmobile, do you know if there will be WP version of the N8 successor coming soon, and if so, is it going to be released at the same time than Symbian version? I think it would be stupid to announce the next stage cameraphone featuring Symbian only. Thanks for all your effort!
To which dsmobile replied
WP8 is what you are waiting then. Microsoft is very slow to make software ready for Nokia hardware.
I would not hold my breath for 2012. But miracles happens sometimes.
So, N8 successor is Symbian as previously hinted. Even with Apollo coming possibly in June/Q3 2012, he says we shouldn’t hold our breaths for such a camera in WP. Well that completely sucks. Microsoft seriously need to get their priorities in order and put significantly more effort into assisting Nokia bring their hardware expertise in so there’s something else more attractive about the Nokia Lumia WP phones in comparison to upcoming Androids and iPhone. Where’s the freaking Nokia Stamp supposed to come to WP huh? Ah, of course, ‘coming soon’ -_____-
BTW, as pointed out, I may have misinterpreted the ‘curve’ of the screen. It may technically be curved but just at the edges.
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if you have followed nokia for long, any one can make educated guesses
I don’t think dsmobile is guessing though. He’s informing of what he’s seen/knows.
*dsmobile!
One last and very crucial question for everyone I suppose…
Are we finally going to see higher resolution screen on the N8 successor and Symbian generally???
Please answer something!
Thanks.
+1
This is almost a game changer for me. NO MORE 640X380 or whatever low res is in the Nokia N8, C7 etc….
I want higher resolution too, but what about apps then?
They can use Apple’s solution by doubling horizontal and vertical resolution and use x2 scaling to make all apps compatible. (1280×720)
I fell Symbian Carla will support the qHD resolution (540X960) which will be in the new devices…
I don’t know. But it’s not 720p
May be same as N9 that is my guess for now.
Jay, can you check the IP of Dsmobile… He seems to be a different person from last time.
If you remember the last statement of ‘dsmobile’ .. he said Carla & Belle are sisters but the other (Carla) has expensive taste & details
This as per me means a better resolution .. What say ??
symbian does not put me off. just make it soon and release this camera beauty in Symbian I will happily taking it beyond 2006.
Just as I expected… No WP7.X based N8′s successor as it can’t handle the camera hardware at its fullest capability yet…
dsmobile,
By saying “Even the screen is flat but edges should been curved like they are in Next camera phone and it just looks much better”, do you mean N8′s successor has a flat screen but the edges are curved or it has a curved screen like the N9??
Thanks in advance..
Not the latter… That’s not a matter of interpretation. Just of reading it correctly
Seems like screen is flat, edges are curved…
yep
Jay.. You should just accept that, besides the UX, Symbian is the better mobile OS overall. Windows CE has a long road ahead before it catches up, and Nokia is going to have to sit around and wait for MS to do it for them. That is what happens, when you are dependent on someone else’s software…
If I’m not wrong, Windows CE in its pure form is a capable OS..
I don’t dispute Symbian’s capabilities. Though UX is certainly the most important criteria right now. I’d gladly have the usability and reliability of N9/800 over the feature list of the N8.
It’s just a little frustrating as a techgeek seeing manufacturer after manufacturer pour out geek-dreamy specs whilst our future Nokia phones are stuck, technically on paper, a few years behind. And actually even on Symbian, through out all of 2011 we watched as we got left behind on 680MHz single CPU. Yes it’s not all about that, but we can’t deny Symbian’s much greater on faster hardware.
Of course, there are still some advanced things in our Nokias, but they will eventually and soon catch up there too, e.g. camera.
Jay, Nokia could have released the n8 with a dual core se u8500 chip ..
That is where nokia failed to see that for symbian to shine it needed hardware that wasn’t min spec..
And Nokia didn’t because?
What I’m hearing from Nokia folk is difficulty trying to get dual core in. It wasn’t on the roadmap to get dualcore for Symbian in 2010.
Also, Nokia being Nokia, they completely FAIL to understand that whilst the software is relatively weak to beef it up in hardware. It’s like they will never learn from the Nokia N97 fiasco. Perhaps little bits, but not the whole principle of what it freakin needs to compete in mobile. As long as Nokia is nokia they will produce phones of COMPROMISE. I hate to say it but they are yet to show anything but mediocre (on the hardware. Design/UI well they got that. aka N9)
I’m praying it would be A9600 instead of U8500.
> Though UX is certainly the most important criteria right now.
Just to say that is a perfectly valid opinion that many people hold, but it is only an opinion
I’ve used N9 and 800 UX and yes they are both great, and yes, both better than my N8 running Anna BUT I would still MUCH rather have the feature list of N8. Yep, even running Anna. Running Belle it’s even more of a no-brainer.
On the 900 flat screen: 1) yes, curved screen would have been nice 2) however, let’s wait and see how the bezel feels at hand 3) let’s also see how thick it “already” is.. adding a truly curved screen would have added to thickness, I assume (not to mention likely to already wide width at least if they wanted to have the same seemless curvature effect as in the N9/800; if it is, say, about as thick as the 800 already, AT&T or Nokia itself may have said no thanks to any added girth..
on other news htc has annoumced an 16mp phone
http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-announced-the-lte-htc-titan-ii/
Nokia just lost the title for highest megapixel camera…the new HTC titan 2 to offer 16MPs….
Nokia plz do some thing…bring something extra ordinary….
even though the mpx dont mean better quality its a blow for the n8 and nokia itself
titan’s camera was excellent and i am eager to find how better this 16mp monster is
I haven’t yet started digging its specs, because the information about the cameras sensor is usually well hidden if its crap, but its not about who has the biggest amount of pixels, its about who has the biggest pixels(biggest sensor). Its all about how much light goes into the camera and how the DSP algorithms handle the information. N8 has a frankenstein sensor. Its almost as big as the biggest non-dslr cameras out there. Its bigger than either of our two high end “pocket”(rather big actually) cameras.
Whilst it’s true unfortunately people still equate ‘more MP = better’. General public anyway. So many times I’m having to correct family members when they say, oh it’s only 3MP, 5MP is better, or whatever. Something like that might get people to dismiss a Nokia camera offering if it cannot at least match it in the MP (even though we all know it might be useless).
It will be scary if HTC can even keep the quality of the first titan. How things have changed. HTC’s camera’s were so laughably bad, you were better of sketching the scene with a burnt potato than using a HTC camera.
if this htc camera is as good as the n8
and dont hide behind our fingers
titan and iphone 4s have closed the gap enrmously this whole we need wp8 is crap
“HTC’s camera’s were so laughably bad, you were better of sketching the scene with a burnt potato than using a HTC camera.”
LOL Made my day!
Yes. Thats one of the wonders of the modern world. Two figures are too much for the people, so lets come up with only one instead, even if it tells us nothing. I’m sure it wouldn’t be that complicated to tell the sensor size and aperture instead of vain pixel count.
Even now Canon is marketing its upcoming highest end non-slr camera ever for serious hobbyists, that its a big 14MP camera. Fantastic!!! And of course the interesting information about the sensor isn’t mentioned at all.
I bought last years cheap little 16MP Canon model for my 5 year old daughter for 70€. Could have bought even cheaper, but I wanted her to have optical image stabilization, as she is still so young.
This is exactly what my point was…
Today, HTC has released a 16MP sensor, Samsung, Sony are already developing the same and may release it in no time…
But one thing everyone should note is that we are only talking about phones in the US market. With heavier subsidies, all these phones will be competing very closely. With the most expensive phone at $250 and the cheapest one at $50. The gap is not too big, for a two year contract, people will definitely wont mind paying if they get better specs. With HTC in the market for $200-$250 (just a guess) why would people buy Nokia with just a 8MP phone? you need to also consider the true/full HD capabilities of HTC..
Not many buy Nikon even with their best IQ sensors…people end up buying Canon for their high MPs and low costs..
You, me and other tech (I mean real tech people) people may know the difference between HTC’s and Nokia’s (with Carl Zeiss’s) camera…but you cannot expect an ordinary person to understand the difference….
Even an ordinary person will be able to spot the difference between the pictures of their crappy 16mpix camera that has the half of those pixels not receiving a single photon of light, and their friend’s 8mpix camera that produces superb images.
True, the damage will be done, but in the long run specs-bragging doesn’t help your brand at all. Can be quite the opposite.
There is a good percentage of people that will go into a shop / to their carrier and get whatever looks the best for them or whatever was overmarketed, but I still think that the majority is influenced by the opinions of their more techy friends, general opinion, previous experiences etc. Not all people are that reckless with their money.
People still marvell at my amazingly sharp and detailed first digital camera photo, that I have printed in A4 size. It was taken with 4MP camera.
correction: HTC does not have full HD capabilities but has Image Stabilization…
The picture at the top of this story is very very ironic given the actual specs and capability of the device.
It is so much better than you think – you must think outside the box
– outside what you currently know about what consumer cameras need to achieve certain things, like, I don’t know, zooming massive distances… 
An N8 successor running Symbian Belle/Carla and with higher screen resolution would be fantastic. If it has all of N8′s features plus qHD or higher screen resolution it would be hard to resist buying it.
history has dictated that there will always be some downside to their phones. Nokia has yet to make the absolutely perfect phone.. I’m not sure what we’d be missing tho..
Resolution is partly like Megapixels in camera; after certain point, they only do harm. Too high resolution raises costs, eats battery, and consumes processing power in vain, which again eats battery even more. I would use the processing power to something I can appreciate more, like shaders in games.
Msoft allows htc to obtain 16mp cams for htc, but nokia who have higher priority with msoft team up cant even get a proper windows flagship in order, u got s3 next month, htc 16mp now and xperia s and ion, and nokia has a 900 which is slightly bigger and better battery than lumia 800. And apollo isnt out till round q3/q4 when by then it will be too late. Very dissapointing
So this!
Those 16mpix most likely wont do much good for consumers compared to Lumia 900.
After Nokia actually gets Code done for Apollo and actually add their own Camera UI they have in N9 and next generation N8. With real 100% code support for the hardware they already have.
Then there will be real camera phone with WP.
Camera UI in WP is really crap. How can anyone enjoy to use it is really big ? mark.
I agree. WP CAMERA UI sucks big time.
However, oddly though it has:
1) the best picture taking. Tap and take touch focus. I still have to press the virtual shutter button on n9 and iPhone.
2) Easily the best quick gallery view
3) Instant on cam.
For uber, uber basic point and shoot it’s really good.
But it could be better. N9 has the best camera ui.
Well on N9 touch is used for moving target point and there is no need to focus with that. It will focus by it self if you just wait and then small touch to camera key is enough.
PR1.2 makes it even more better with Video light and flash with out going to menu.
But Camera phone I think might outshine N9 camera app.
Well fun to see what will sell more at AT&T. Lumia 900 design vs. HTC 16mpix.
Maybe that’s why Nokia is still holding on to the Symbian software. Currently, symbian is more capable of handling the n8 successor. Remember that rumour that the next nokia camera phone will have a true zoom or whatever feature? Dsmobile has commented that nokia carla has better attention to details and such. Maybe it’s connected somehow.
OS’s, specs, then quality build have been customers base requirerment.
But now it’s gonna be a camera/video war.
Nokia are in big trouble again, by the sounds of it windows has slow speed to market, symbian well they killed it by nokia being slow to market and meego they let go.
Retailers have already suggested phones took a big share away from cameras this christmas. Just wait to next christmas.
You can see it happening all again.
I say get aleast 4 people to work on meego/mameo use swipe, add fm transmitter, get flashplayer, and put the worlds biggest badest camera nokia can get workin, water proof it, gorilla glass 2. 1.5 quadcore it. Fbook it the all the way, and pay google $10 per unit to app it up.
Winner!
Agreed on everything you said, except paying $10 to Google… For what? Charity? lol
I’ll say that if Nokia N7** is weakest of the best(N) series, N8** is better, and N9** is the best of them then N8 successor shall be called N10 and be overpowered. Like N90 – phone that haves everything that has been invented until it’s release. Won’t You guys agree? And of course the best OS – Symbian which is irreplaceable with some improvements (Carla/Donna and then newer ones via update).
If so, I can pay even $5000 or more for it. And I’m sure I’m not the only one. By the way size doesn’t matter to me. ;p