Finnish MP’s Nokia E7s breaking often?

| April 30, 2012 | 62 Replies

 

A smartphone, despite all of its advertised features, must do the core applications people rely on flawlessly. Keyboard, email, calendar, browser, and all other aspects of the phone as generally stable, reliable, and quick to use.

A story on iltalehti.fi yesterday points to some phones used by Finnish MPs whose phones never worked properly.

  • Freezing
  • Keyboard failures
  • something that got translated as ‘charging contact failure’
  • calendar
  • email problems etc

The translator is rather hard to follow. If you’re lucky enough to understand Finnish, you can click that link above for yourself.

These phones, in the hands of Finnish members of parliament, have been replaced countless of times and some seem to have gone and bought themselves their own phones that would work. It seems only in the last update with Belle have things began to work properly but that might be too little too late.

Nokia mobile phones has been a huge amount of bugs. That has been discussed many times among my colleagues. Either the telephone or was not broken, then the properties were poor. Now that I got a new software update, E 7 has finally begun to work properly.

Although the E7 was capable of many awesome things, the underlying S^3 made it problematic. As I replied to a user a couple of days ago, initially, it seemed like an ok experience.

http://mynokiablog.com/2012/04/27/nokia-number-2/comment-page-2/#comment-562663

But over time, I don’t know why, things eventually break requiring a hard reset for maintenance. There shouldn’t have to be any special way we would have to interact with our phone to minimise the need for hard reset. Things should just work. My N8 unfortunately after a month or so, started locking up, freezing, mails not opening (or taking ages to open) and my HD games crashing or not starting up at all. The keyboard was a sad affair, though E7 users are saved from this as they have a physical keyboard. The browser was always an unfortunate experience given that Nokia had spoilt me with MicroB and promised they would do better than this for Symbian – even with the latest iteration, they have not.

Belle FP1 seems to have changed things a lot for the better and were this what N8 came with in April 2010 when first announced, or even October when it was available, perhaps things could have been much different for Nokia.

BTW, was any hardware problems mentioned? My N8 is now not working and I still haven’t managed to get to the awkwardly located repair place.

Source: iltalehti.fi

Cheers Janne for the tip

Category: Nokia, Symbian

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  1. Guess if they’ve been having issues, Nokia should have sorted them, I must have been lucky, because my E7 has been very reliable and all the core functions have worked faultlessly. Wonder if Nokia could get me a job as the official MP phone setup and maintenance man in Finland ? :-)

  2. Stephens_eloped says:

    Heard this sort of thing with E7s and N8s all too often.
    Such a shame Nokia couldn’t have gotten their act together and released those S3 phones with Belle to start with. Early S3 was not reliable.

  3. Diego says:

    E7 sucks!!! i have one and it was terrible, i lost my fainth on nokia bcoz of it

    bad camera, no fm Tx, slower, no 2mm charger,(it means no USB otg if u have low batery) no micro SD, no gorrila glass

    and the worse of all, it got problens in the micro usb port, it became unstable, disconecting from the lightest touch and finally one of the rails of the conector bended in, the warranty didnt cover that kind of problem and nokia didnt sell spare parts for the device

    NOKIA SUCKS!! E7 SUCKS!! N9 is the only one that still worth for the half of original price

    • incognito says:

      Ummm, the E7 has Gorilla branded toughened glass… Never understood the fascination with that branding, tho… There are better, more scratch/shatter resistant toughened glasses out there, but still none of them is scratch-proof or shatter-proof. People have come to expect way too much from a simple material called – glass.

      • Carbontubby says:

        Dropped mine lots of time onto concrete or a road surface without a case…

        and it survives without a scratch. No dents or scratches on the aluminium, no marks at all on the glass. Yes, the E7 has plenty of good hardware features left out, but that thing is built like a tank.

        Now who was the idiot at Apple who decided to have glass on the front and back of the iPhone? Drop it and something will shatter.

        The complaints with S^3 are true though. Only hardcore Nokia fans would have stuck with an E7 all the way to Belle and now with Belle, it’s a nice phone. It would have sold a lot more units if it had been released with Belle rather than the clunky, slow S^3.

        • Jay Montano says:

          I can’t say I dropped my loaner E7 but I can agree it felt like a tank. It was so solidly build that friends just assumed it was a bigger N8 – to suddenly flip open blew their mind – it did not feel like it had, or should have had, any moving parts.

          Camera, despite being the horrid EDoF, was better than most for its time. I think I would have really liked it with Belle – I only tried it with original S^3. I enjoyed the keyboard. It look away many frustrations from the imbecille built virtual one. It was a shock that also from Nokia was the N9′s virtual keyboard – probably the best virtual keyboard if it had better autocorrect – as a keyboard on its own, most definitely. I hope the 808′s virtual keyboard will be on par.

          • Carbontubby says:

            Is the N9′s screen the same 16:9 aspect ratio as nHD? I think nHD is perfect for watching and shooting videos but it’s too narrow when used in portrait orientation. The Belle virtual portrait keyboard needs much taller keys to be really usable but the auto-correct isn’t bad, it does help for short messages.

          • incognito says:

            Yup, the E7 appears extremely solidly built, and it actually looks quite nice. I’ve said it before, the perfect device for me would be a dual core ARM or Intel Medfield with 2GB of RAM, sporting potent GPU like the the PowerVR SGX 544, running on Harmattan, with Symbian special features like the HDMI out and USB-OTG, enclosed in the E7 body… Oh, well, one can dream…

            • Carbontubby says:

              Say no to Intel on mobile ;)

              I would rather have a bunch of ARM licensees making slightly slower chips rather than Chipzilla itself cornering the desktop, server and mobile markets.

              Agree on your E7 suggestion, an E8 on Meego would be perfect. The N950 doesn’t count because it’s missing a lot of the E7′s hardware features like HDMI out and USB-OTG. Heck, an 808 with a keyboard would be great too.

              • migo says:

                Intel on a phone isn’t a big deal, but for at least the next five years Intel tablets will justifiably command a premium.

              • incognito says:

                Well, the latest Medfield is actually quite nice and finally a proper Intel response to the ARM’s supremacy in the mobile field. Intel is the underdog here, so I don’t find it hard to support them.

                On the other hand, just like I’d like for Microsoft to stay away from the mobile field, I’d like Intel to stay away as well – both of these companies usually poison the wheel one way or the other. Now, undoubtedly, Intel does make some really good silicon and even in the lack of a proper competition they do bring acceptable progress, but still – we can’t know if the industry would progress far faster if Intel didn’t have their uttermost dominance over it.

                What I’m aiming for is more the prospect of x86 in the mobile. No, not because I adore the x86, quite the contrary, but there are terabytes, if not petabytes of supporting software written for that architecture. Yes, the Debian ARM project is a nice thing, but not even a per mil of available libraries haven’t been adjusted and recompiled.

                I rarely am all for keeping the legacy if it would hinder the progress, but in this case x86 would actually accelerate the mobile computing by exposing more software to mobile platforms in one go than all the mobile platforms since their inception collected so far.

                If AMD could create something even remotely close to the efficiency of the latest Intel Medfield or ARM gamma, I’d root for them. Sadly, at this point, only Intel can break ARM’s monopoly and give us a proper x86 compatibility at the same time, therefore I really wouldn’t mind if the CPU in my next ‘superphone’ would be – Intel’s. But they should be kept on a tight leash!

                • carbontubby says:

                  ARM is nowhere near a monopoly… it designs architectures and cores, then licenses them to whoever can afford the small license fees. There’s plenty of differentiation between Nvidia, TI, Qualcomm, Samsung etc. SoCs and if you don’t like one chip, you can always buy another :-)

                  Intel on the other hand controls x86 and makes the chips. If you want to run x86 software, which is the majority on he consumer market, the only option is Intel. AMD is barely selling to OEMs nowadays. Intel is pretty much a monopoly in this case.

                  I would rather x86 stay on the desktop or just fade away. It’s an ancient architecture with decades of legacy baggage… what we need are cross-platform toolkits like Qt which can use whatever processor architecture that is suited for a platform e.g. mobile or desktop.

                • James says:

                  Agreed, Intel can really liven things up.
                  They’re using ancient microarchitecture for their current medfield.
                  Now that they have a very solid POC, look out for their next “tock”.
                  I will have a very big impact, that much is certain.
                  I’m rooting for ARM too of course. ;)

                • James says:

                  Agreed, Intel can really liven things up.
                  They’re using ancient microarchitecture for their current medfield.
                  Now that they have a very solid POC, look out for their next “tock”.
                  It will have a very big impact, that much is certain.
                  I’m rooting for ARM too of course! ;)

              • incognito says:

                *poison the well
                (happens when tired)

          • Javier says:

            EDoF is not that bad.
            I find it a good approach for tiny sensors – it is fast and reliable and in my C7 (first gen EDoF) it gives great results in 95% of the situations. For close ups I use a small piece of plastic or glass, whatever I have at hand, to correct focus (which leads me to think why didn’t nokia added a slider to switch to close up mode, as in the N80?).

    • incognito says:

      P.S. Complaining about USB-OTG nit-bits when the competition doesn’t even have that undoubtedly useful feature, and calling the producer of it sucky reminds me of Louis C.K. ranting about how spoiled have we become:

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk]

      • migo says:

        When USB-OTG is one of the only features drawing people to Symbian, there isn’t much room for screwing it up.

    • joza says:

      umm, Diego, you really don’t know what you’re talking about. Gorilla glas, present. Camera, not good but better than any same gen htc ( or like ) model.

      • migo says:

        Given how current HTC cameras are beating everything Nokia has now except the N8 (and then only in some tests), I would question the blanket assumption that HTC cameras were worse than Nokia in the past.

        • Jay Montano says:

          HTC cameras of the past, based on pictures I’ve seen, from friends, reviews and the rare occasion of trying one, have been horrendous at best – perhaps something akin to a potato camera were such memes to exist. But now they’re actually, and quite scarily, pretty good. The video samples I’ve seen from the One X look a little shaky, but stills look more than acceptable, which is a complement given their previous performance.

          HTC cameras were definitely worse than Nokias in the past, but it depends on which Nokias and how far back in the past.

          • migo says:

            Outside of the N-series, I don’t see it. Only Nokia I’ve had with a good camera was the N95 8GB. So yeah, Nokia had some class-leading cameras, but it wasn’t like they had good cameras across their entire line. E-series were intentionally gimped.

            • Jay Montano says:

              Oh for sure. The Nokia portfolio had too many products, too many in the line that diluted the top end and so consistent good camera quality throughout all of their products may not be achieved. On price points it might be a fairer comparison. Generally, cheaper devices gave worse pictures.

              Comparing Nokia’s best to HTC’s best, then even now, Nokia has the upper hand.

              What is unfortunate is that to outside users/non Nokia fans, the divide between the artificially crippled Xseries/Eseries/Nseries was non existent. New products were seen as new products, with expectations to better their predecessor. Those of similar price ranges were compared and producing an ‘expensive’ Xseries/Eseries with a ‘crappy’ camera did little good for Nokia’s overall reputation.

          • joza says:

            all i had from htc were desire and sensation ( jesus, what a names ). Desire camera is a joke. It tells people using it they are idiots. Coupled with build quality, it says that phone was made to be popular, not good. Sensation improved things a bit but nowhere near even N82 in terms of pic quality. It is fast, though.

    • RVM says:

      Seriously ? U bought a pretty expensive phone and didn’t even check if it has microSD, fm transmitter or 2 mm charger ?

  4. shallow ocean shoal says:

    I mentioned the other day about a bug CURRENTLY, at a minimum, on the 700 & 701 that causes them to stop receiving text messages. You have no idea until you notice it’s been a long time (days?), or somebody tells you:

    The Nokia 700 & 701 have a bug where they stop receiving text messages, and therefore also voice mails – and you don’t know it – until someone tells you or you realize it. You reboot, maybe days later, and the flood then comes in.

    How do I know this? I experienced it.

    This has been a bug since at least January:
    http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Nseries-and-Symbian-Smartphones/Nokia-700-not-receiving-SMS-until-power-cycled/td-p/1286177

    What’s even worse is that Nokia is completely Missing in Action on their very own support board, leaving the customer experience in the hands of a random idiot named “jimmyireland.” Same old Nokia in this regard, that got them in the pickle they are today.

  5. Oleg Derevenetz says:

    Well, it’s slightly strange for me to hear about such massive problems. I bought my N8 last summer, it had original S^3 from the beginning, then Anna, and then Belle, new updates bring better user experience of course, but even original S^3 firmware was stable enough. It freezes sometimes, but very rare – no more than once in a month, may be twice.

  6. vorlon says:

    When the 50 out of 200 repaired nonsense was written the first time last year, there was a story in some paper that the biggest problem was that the battery didn’t last a week like they were used to when some MPs kept the email checking (and so the data connection) on all the time. And that a few MPs sent their E7s to repair several times, not 1/4 of the MPs.

    I have a E7 with no problems at all. Though neither had N810, X6, 5230, … 1611 and Mobira 5000. Unlike several Motos and (Sony)Ericssons.

  7. troll says:

    There you have it.

    Elop bribed these bastards to say that. What a load of spineless turds.

    Obviously those iditos don’t know how to use smartphones. For iditots like this they should be using s40. Fuck Elop and Microsoft they bought over these people. Fire them!!! Their problems with symbian smartphones are completley false because I did not experience them.

    Symbian is Europe’s best OS. Fuck these morons. They have amaerican agenda when saying this rubbish.

    • shallow ocean shoal says:

      troll

    • Tim.L says:

      Hrm, Elop bribed member of Parliament in world least corrupted country?

      Symbian was gone from Europe before Elop, Asia naturally just followed later on.

      Yes Symbian was sh1te.

      • troll says:

        I enjoy going completely bonkers from time to time. Its interesting to see as how some symbian fans do.

        Continu

      • Mausschubser says:

        DU bist scheisse! Kauf dir ein Android-Gerät und lad dir deine Apps drauf. Viel Spass mit der Baustelle.

        • Jeff says:

          Nice necro-post dick-head…
          It’d be almost excusable if you were making some kind of interesting point or asking a interesting Qn.

  8. twig says:

    I have a E7 since fed. 2011. It does freeze up sometimes but as far as haardware, its the King. I still get people starting at that blue baby. Throw windows into it and it would have greatly improved the flow. The phone is a boom box, you dont need headphones with it. Love that keyboard that lights up. The old Symbian did need work.

  9. yesir says:

    Every single fault of Lumia phones gets the mention that future update will fix it. Every single problem of Symbian gets rehashed and rehashed with a very long memory (N97 e.g.) Way to go Jay. Trample on the dead already if that is how you wish to earn you trip to Finland.

    • butthurt says:

      Butthurt

    • Jay Montano says:

      Example?

      I have been a long time user of Symbian, so very, very long. I have been patient waiting for improvement but it has taken so long to fix the important things. Why should I not be allowed to complain?

      I have no such complaints about N9 – that is a job well done, and for that it deserves praise. Likewise for Lumia. Both do admirable jobs performing the key smartphone activities (for me) quite well.

      I will complain about such problems in N9 if such existed and persisted. I have only encountered some small minor hiccups but none to the extent of the problems I have experienced with Symbian. It burdens me, as a fan of Nokia, that Symbian was so pivotal to both Nokia’s success and failure. Success when it grew, and failure when it began to lose its competitive edge. I have been urging for improvements for several years because I was a huge fan of Symbian – I complained because I didn’t want to desert it, I wanted it to see fixing and improving but those complaints obviously fell on deaf ears, or perhaps were never heard noticed at all, or, heaven forbid, was too hard to fix in a timely manner. I can’t shake the disappointment and it disturbs me more when I hear that such experience has irked other users who have then switched to phones from the competition.

      I cannot reconcile the differences in Nokia’s offerings in 2009 with N97 and N900. It haunts me how Nokia could be so brilliant, yet so foolish at the same time. It bothers me that for all the complaining from the n97, critical errors still persisted in the N8 that remained for a very long time, with much still there even in Belle. Now, I also mention FP1 in the post, and as you may or may not have seen, I have been praising Belle FP1 when I see it because it is reaching the standards I have been willing Symbian to achieve. Of course I will feel that bittersweet regret, because for a long time championing Symbian, it only now begins to see some of its true potential when set aside for retirement. I like Belle FP1 – I’m yet to use it but from what I see, it looks very good; finally able to start to look as good on the outside as fantastic as some of it is on the inside. For some reason there are doubts cast by some major tech blogs still but I hope their opinions will be favourable once the review units for the 808 are available.

      • Carbontubby says:

        Belle and Belle FP1 are really too little, too late for Symbian fans who were promised so much back in mid-2010 and are only now seeing the promised upgrades, yet there are still plenty of bugs and missing features like email notifications and support for multiple Exchange accounts.

        I think it’s more a case of things being too hard to fix in a realistic timeframe. It’s sad to realize that Symbian and Series 60 grew into a huge, unwieldy monster over the years. By 2010 Nokia themselves knew they had to move to Meego but they stuffed that transition completely.

        If you’ve tried developing for Belle, you’ll see it’s still rough around the edges and it’s still not an easy environment for developers. Qt Quick and QML were supposed to allow for fast app development but they’re quite limited.

        The Qt Quick 1.1 components for Symbian have a lot of missing functionality or are downright buggy compared to their Qt predecessors, so you end up having to re-invent the wheel to get an app to work. Sadly Qt Quick 1.1/Qt 4.8 will be the last version on Symbian… I don’t hold much hope for all the issues to be fixed by then. If I were selling apps, instead of spending time coding for Symbian Qt, I would rather target the much larger markets on Android or iOS.

      • yesir says:

        Fair enough Jay. I was just a bit frustrated Symbian having me served well all these years.
        As for N97, things happen. From my personal experiences (not at Nokia of course), sometimes you pin your hope on certain hardware platform and it became evident that it is not going to deliver on time. What do you do? Just try to squeeze stuff into something not considered before due to being inadequate because you, as a company, has to deliver. Well, similarily I think that’s all there is to it to the story of N97.

        • Jay Montano says:

          The N97 was a foolish product from Nokia, not purely because of Symbian but because Nokia chose not to prop it up by improving hardware elsewhere. N97 would not have been nearly half as bad if Nokia decided to make the N97 a phone for the consumer, not one that would balance the books. Nokia should have put users and user experience first, but instead they were interested in fobbing products off to the public. The ex head of Symbian Foundation knew they could get away with putting out even bad products as the Nokia name would sell millions – but incomplete/inadequate products are detrimental to mindshare and future users.

          Symbian has served me well too, but I don’t look for what it offers only to me, but for others. I can cope with the constant hard resets and the bugs here and there, with the inadequacies and the many quirks. But the general public seems to have little patience with such things and look to other products that would offer them a smoother experience. This is why Symbian began frustrating me all those years back as I saw it was beginning to hold Nokia back. Trying out products from others, iPhone and N900, it was a frightening realisation how far behind Symbian had gotten in usability. There were promises that this would be overcome, but what they delivered is not what was promised.

          The N97 story frustrates because it is not a one off. There was crud before it and Nokia did not learn. It is fine to make mistakes, but learn from them. Nokia continued (and still does in many ways) to repeat mistakes of the past. In some ways they marred the N8′s chances again. Both by not delivering a modern user interface that showed Symbian off and by not giving it more oomph under the hood. It is not fair on Symbian, not fair on the fans and not fair on the users.

    • Harangue says:

      As a long time Symbian user (like Jay) the wait for ‘promised’ fixes and updates has been so long. The Lumia I have now did come with a few problems, mostly battery related, but it works fine now. And that has been just a little under 6 months before it was fixed.

      After I bought my N8, the Anna update came after 9 months and didn’t even bring that much improvement. It fixed certain painpoints but it also brought new ones with it (worse battery life). At the same time the experience was still lacking.

      The Lumia I have isn’t perfect, there are enough things I’d like too see changed. One being the weird choice of a unified volume control (no seperate volume control for ringtone volume/music volume) Yet the overall experience is far more enjoyable than what I ever had on a Symbian device.

      Maybe that is what sparks the rehashing time and time again. The overall experience wasn’t good. Symbian devices often came with problems that interfered with day to day operations.

  10. Clint_ZA says:

    I too must have been one of the “lucky” ones as we have two N8s in my household, both of which are around 1 1/2 years old, and neither one has given us any bit of problem.

    I do sometimes wonder whether some of these “power users” (although I’ll put myself in this category considering at one point I had over 100 apps and games loaded on my phone to the point where I only had 1Gb left on my mass memory) don’t perhaps make too many tweaks, and load too many hacks/cracks/CFWs onto their phones resulting in these issues.

    Or are those of us who have experienced absolutely no issues (with 2 N8s remember) just that lucky?

    • arts says:

      Nah. What I learned from looking at the comments from this blog is symbian is the best. Fullstop. So what you are saying is correct. The other people who suffer problem’s are liars and trolls. The can’t be a second opinion here. Only one opinion.

      /s

      Not targeted at you.

    • Janne says:

      The E7s I’ve witnessed going dead were people who are not heavy users at all, barely any apps installed. There clearly was something wrong with the early(?) Symbian^3 (the flash corruption flaw) and E7 batches… But of course not all of them are going to break. But something was amiss.

  11. jagger says:

    Ok enough of sour graping, I am using Nokia E7 Belle. My Nokia E7 is much reliable than Sony Ericsson XPERIA PRO ANDROID phone s***s, email app is so boring and unreliable, no widget for email? (How could you have a business phone like that?), very expensive applications (Philippines only has .5 dollar per app, Android is 15$ up!!!!), email doesnt sync automatically! K9, Maildroid, etch has no extra capabilities unlike as Belle features! Timescape s***s! I am starting to hate my Xperia Pro and Android!

  12. Janne says:

    I’ve personally witnesses two or three E7s suddenly going dead or not charging any more until dead. All were warranty replaced by new phones, except once when the phone was reflashed and died again a month later (the infamous Symbian^3 early device flash corruption bug, hardware flaw I believe).

    I guess Nokia had some major quality issues with their Symbian^3 phones. Luckily any Lumia issues now seem to be fixable with software as battery and network woes, and not major hardware flaws like in Symbian^3 devices.

  13. fi2 says:

    I’ve been complaining a lot about my E7 over the past year but mostly for fairly small issues, it’s never ever frozen up on me with Belle or Anna. Aside from the very annoying proximity sensor issue (try using it on your left ear for a while and you’ll see) the only issues are software related issues (not being able to install new updates from the app store because the registry on my phone is somehow broken and requires a complete reset, the awkward oversize widgets, no unified inbox, calendar view defaulting to day view instead of the split view, nokia social app deciding to replace all my contact photos from photos off facebook without asking me, etc. etc.). Basically it all works, but it is just too awkward. The “no new apps” issue is also more of a problem than I originally thought, but I suspect that HTML5 App Stores (such as the one currently being developed by Facebook, Microsoft and Nokia) will at some point start addressing that.

    The software is still not great (and now of course it looks like Symbian will never get to that polished level), but in parts the E7 sets the state-of-the-art. The CBD screen with Sleeping Screen functionality is a revolution that everyone should be getting into, Apple included. The hardware keyboard is simply stunning, the best mobile keyboard ever made and the fact that they could fit it in a sturdy case the size of the original iPhone is a true feat of engineering and design.

    As for 50 out of 200 MP phones going in to the shop for repairs it may be that some of these have gone in for merely a firmware update to Anna or Belle. And if not for updates directly, for issues caused by pre-Anna firmware. I suspect many MPs are incapable of updating the software themselves — I am almost positive that a number of the MP phones are still running on pre-Anna software or at least not all have been updated to Belle. I’ve seen this at our university also, many older staff members completely neglect software updates. This is not to make excuses for Nokia’s less-than-stellar software development skills (management included), but to offer one explanation for how the statistics for the MP phones and the general feeling among other users can be so mismatched. My faith in MPs is of course even lower than my faith in Symbian ;)

    I took a chance on the E7 after the burning platform memo (I had preordered it before that, but I could have gotten out of it) and for that reason I am now hesitating to take a new chance on the dying N9 or the embryonic Lumia 900. My next move will depend on what Apple has to say on June 15th and what information we get on WP Apollo during the summer.

  14. Janne says:

    fi2:

    “As for 50 out of 200 MP phones going in to the shop for repairs it may be that some of these have gone in for merely a firmware update to Anna or Belle.”

    No, my understanding is that they were broken – and that 50 was last fall, now the number is apparently higher. Battery issues mostly, probably the infamous flash corruption issue as well.

  15. Janne says:

    BTW: I don’t think these breakings have anything to do with Symbian. It is just that the original Symbian^3 devices suffered from various hardware related flaws. Later batches have hopefully been better. Something went wrong with Nokia’s quality control in this sense.

  16. Quantom says:

    Wow. Lots of comments on this thread. Not sure if mine will be seen..

    Anyway, does anyone encounter a weird bug with the keypad (I’m using an N8)? Occasionally when I access my conversations, clock to set an alarm or any other application that requires the numpad to be out, I’ll notice that the keypad would have shifted from its original position (bottom of the screen), to a very awkward position at the top of the screen and as a result completely blocks the entire menu. It is easily resolved by either changing to the QWERTY pad and back, or rotating the display and back. I’ve found that to be quite irritating, and it’s never seemed to have been resolved for every single time I’ve upgraded my software (original, anna, belle).

    Does anyone have a similar issue? I’ve googled around but it doesn’t seem too common. Btw by default I use the alphanumeric keypad with the T9 dictionary.

  17. RVM says:

    I have my N8 since december 2010 and it’s still working great. However, i did hard reset twice – when i was going to update to Anna, and later to Belle. Currently on Belle i experience only one problem: i cannot play .flv files. Would really like to have this fixed.

  18. Bob says:

    Belle FP1 should have been in place 2008- 2009.

  19. ADHamburg says:

    I am astonished at the trend of this blog and I cannot share the majority-opinion here with regard to the E7.

    The E7 definitely had it´s flaws with Symbian^3.

    Among them were the slow browser, very bad executed e-mail-app that came with the phone, the advertised WLAN “n”-modus not working and WLAN killing any WLAN-net when the phone is in energy-saving-mode and a few more items.

    But over all the phone was already then a relatively reliable phone.

    Then came the Anna-update and the update from Maps 3.06 to 3.08 and there Nokia had shot a lot of funtionalities, that were bases for my purchasing-decision, to hell.

    Among them are:
    - Blue-tooth not working anymore with car-installations
    - Several funtionalities taken out of Maps
    and except for a better working browser no further bugs fixed.

    I have Anna on my phone now and it works, but with quite a few limitations in relation to what I could do with it prior to Anna!

    I have no plans to install Belle, as this would infringe even further on the capabilities, that the phone has.
    One example: I could not any longer assign idividual ringing-tones coming from my own ringing-tone library. And Nokia-Only was not my idea.
    There are more examples readily available!

    In total Nokia has not fixed any issues that were already there with S^3 or that were still there after the Anna-update.

    Nokia needs a kick in the butt and I attest all these troubles to Mr. S. Elop´s plans of making WP the big winner (a plan that will shatter, I am afraid!).

    The only way out of this malaise for me seems to be a CFW, but I haven´t found one yet, that would suit my needs.

    So much for Belle, which certainly is not going to do the job that the Nokia-advertisements originally promised for this phone in 2010/2011.

    Regards,

    ADHamburg

  20. James says:

    Interesting.

  21. Janne says:

    The worst thing about this recurring MPs E7s breaking story is the anti-Nokia sentiment and headlines it is producing on a very high level. It is eating into the Nokia loyalty in Finland.

    And having experienced the Symbian^3 family of devices, both from hardware and software issue perspective, I can’t really blame them.

    I just wish people give Lumia a chance. I’ve been really happy with my two Lumias.

  22. blazinemperor says:

    belle fp1 is really beautiful, transitions & animations are pretty smooth & fast… I haven’t found any bugs on my 701….. No phone offered such smoothness in 2009 or 2010….. Get a 701 before you start saying funny things about belle fp1…

  23. outdated os says:

    Yep, Janne. Let’s give Microsoft a chance to Windowize the mobile landscape. Very good proposal.

  24. DesR85 says:

    “Freezing

    Keyboard failures

    something that got translated as ‘charging contact failure’

    calendar

    email problems etc”

    I sometimes get that freezing problem on my 6700 Slide. Another problem I encountered is the USB not registering the phone when plugging in to the computer. Happened a few months after buying it but so far its sporadic but nothing serious. Most of the time, it works well.

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