Video: The Lumia Challenge: Lumia 800 vs Galaxy S3
I’ve become a little cold to the repetitive nature of the ‘smoked by WP’ then ‘smoked by lumia’ turned ‘The Lumia Challenge’ videos. You may have read several of my posts now expressing my concern about this campaign. But recently I’ve been asked by some non-techy friends about Lumia who heard from other friends that Lumia was really fast, mentioning smoking other handsets. I was surprised by how far that campaign had reached as it’s not really a nationwide thing and more so, as mentioned by a reader, it’s helping to educate people about the Lumia.
I also heard that a sales person telling another friend that the Lumia was really fast because it had a ‘GPU’ whilst only having one core processor. :/
Anyway, here’s another of the Lumia Challenge videos from Nokia. I think I may have missed a few but this one tests it against the new shiny Samsung Galaxy S3. Also, there are a couple of stunning blondes there as Lumia reps. Nice job picking them out, Nokia UK!
I like how lively and excited they seem to be and how excited the contestants are too – even at losing.
I think it will be properly GAME ON for the WP8 Lumias. They should have more aspects to the challenge other than doing various things on the phone really fast.
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I’ll be impressed if the 800 smokes galaxy s3 in sales. nokia’s ads and campaigns are not memorable these days. what is the objective of these other than making nokia look smug.
I’m sorry I sound a bit excessively negative, but that’s just it is matter of factly, just like the smoked by lumia campaign claims itself to be.
really? i think its brilliant.
everytime i recommend a nokia to my friends they always claim nokia old and suck and what not,
but i managed to bring one along to a pc fair which had a smoked by lumia thingy and she were impressed with the results.
so yeah. to me there is definitely merits to this smoked by lumia thingy.
Agreed, compared to Samsung’s Street Challenge videos, particularly their insulting Note video ad.
I find it amusing how the Smoked by Windows Phone/Lumia campaign receive a lot of flak on the internet, but not a single squeak on The Street Challenge, despite their insulting tone (Some people did call them out on it, but it didn’t generate that much flak on the internet). Heck, even one member on Soyacincau called the latter ‘tact’.
“everytime i recommend a nokia to my friends they always claim nokia old and suck and what not…”
Same, but once I showed them my Lumia 800, they’re awed by it. Even one was persuaded to buy it in the near future.
to be frank, I don’t think much of any ad that insults any other brands, besides comparative ads are always rigged!
“to be frank, I don’t think much of any ad that insults any other brands, besides comparative ads are always rigged!”
I don’t dwell on these type of ads either, but that doesn’t mean I can’t call them out on it, especially the Samsung Street Challenge ads.
S3 vs. Lumia, ofcourse the S3 will win that in terms of sales. Just basic logic. The Galaxy name has become such a strong brand with the S1 and the very good S2 after that. Nokia not only has to battle the ‘Windows’ monniker but they also have to battle their own reputation and brand perception.
However, there is a chance the S3 and it’s somewhat underwhelming design and the too large to be practicle screen hurt the Galaxy brand. I’m no Samsung fan (was though back in the day Nokia refused to make flipphones) but even I expected far more from the S3 than what they delivered. But then again, the 4S was a huge disappointment as well. Yet that still sold like hotcakes.
yes there is a chance for nokia galaxy s3 is disappointing it doesnt offer anything more than htc one x.but then again by the time nokia bring wp8 device new nexus device will already in the market.also nokia is still sticking to ‘our os dont need latest specs blah blah’
Nexus devices never generate that many sales, they are more of proof of concepts than anything…
…underwhelming ? both 4s AND S3 are more well rounded products than anything Nokia or any competitor has thrown at them. Are we expecting too much these days ?
Microsoft Lumia
I just say open up your picture app and now look at my 900s.
I too was a bit tired of this campaign but that was the best of those smoked-by videos I’ve seen since the original ones from the 2011 E3.
Once gain Nokia UK does a bang-up job–I still think they made the best short and sweet WP commercial ever as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SbXnCQtQTWc
The problem is that both symbian and Maemo can smoke winphone and thats the prob for those in the know!
although i agree with your statement, do you really have to bring up symbian and maemo in this topic?
Umm, i have symbian, maemo and windows devices.
And while i loved maemo, there is no way in hell i can go back to that after using the L900.
I can probably do 5 tasks on the L900 faster than i could do one with my n900.
Not putting the n900 down, because i really enjoyed it for quite a while, but smoking the L900, i think not.
What if one of those tasks is bluetooth file transfer? Or copying some pdf or zip files from any computer? Or mkv files and then view them? Or just browsing the files in your phone? Not to mention multitasking couple of programs that need to keep running on the background? Many other things like that.
Still faster?
* crickets chirping in the background *
I understand your position. It reminds me of the old argument of Symbian vs IOS, that IOS could do 10% of what Symbian could do, but could do it 100% times better. Coming from a n8 to a lumia 800 made me so much more productive.
streamliming the workflow… but still I would like to see a Smoke by X vs Y made by two extrange, not just company PR people vs common Joe, because I think the blond girl is particulary well trained to follow the tests track fast. Yep I know that it’s supposed that you must know what are the capabilities of your device, but in most case it isn’t true.
What about Samsung PR people Vs Nokia PR people doing ramdon test to see who win???
“streamliming the workflow… but still I would like to see a Smoke by X vs Y made by two extrange, not just company PR people vs common Joe, because I think the blond girl is particulary well trained to follow the tests track fast. Yep I know that it’s supposed that you must know what are the capabilities of your device, but in most case it isn’t true.”
So you’re saying that Nokia should employ some average Joe (even temporarily) on the street who own any Lumia phone to challenge other people? Wow. That’ll end up as a failure with a capital ‘F’.
That is Nokia’s job to promote their Lumia phones and it makes sense for them to use their employees who are well-versed with their Lumias to do so, not some average Joe on the street.
I find it really amusing to read accusations against competitions like this, even going as far as calling it ‘rigged’ when any type of competition/challenge have always been this way since time immemorial. What? Are we now going to say that casinos are rigged as well? If you don’t want to end up humiliated or cheated, don’t participate at all. Plain and simple.
Casinos are rigged, else it would not be a business. The competition is not fair and only a fool would expect it to be.
sorry for being a fool… But if 50% of people think like you and DesR85 this campaing will be useless, people will start ro thinking that there is something fishy
next you will say that they should not use professional stunt men to shoot commercials for mountain dew and use the average Joe to jump off planes and mountains.wow that would be nice!
The problem that i have for nokia is this..
Microsoft can buy nokia out from its overseas profits, that it doesn’t want to give to uncle sam..
And this is my point, it can spend $5bn on windows 8 (desktop/tablet/mobile) and if its a failure it will survive to win 9 with metro dead and and a new reboot of win phone.
Can Nokia survive that NO ..
It needs a low latency linux kernal with n9+belle(qt) interface as plan B
You guys don’t seem to understand, THERE IS NO PLAN B
It’s this, or hasta la vista
there was a plan B to start with. NOW, there’s no plan B once in microsoft’s fold/ hold!
Yes but MS needs Nokia as much as Nokia needs MS. no other OEM is supporting windows phone like Nokia is. do you see HTC or Samsung doing this? no they put out one phone and focus on their Android offerings. without Nokia MS is dead in the mobile water. if Nokia needs a larger infusion of cash I will bet you that MS will step in. right now Nokia gets 1 billion dollars from MS not including any patent royalities while Nokia pays MS for using the OS. so if Nokia goes under where does that leave MS in the mobile space? that saying, I dont think MS is angling to buy Nokia. Nokia does amazing hardware, MS does software. It is exactly the sort of relationship MS wants to maintain it is how they got their dominance in the PC market. so just watch if Nokia starts going down, MS will step in like a long lost uncle and give them money to keep on keeping on.
“no other OEM is supporting windows phone like Nokia is. do you see HTC or Samsung doing this? ”
that’s ‘cos microsoft wants their terms. where as Nokia had a trojan infect the company, and steered the company towards microsoft. big difference!
“if Nokia needs a larger infusion of cash I will bet you that MS will step in”
lol. yeah, just a minor name change would do the trick!
“so if Nokia goes under where does that leave MS in the mobile space? ”
where they were before. just that it they had a pretty good trial in the market at nokia’s expense!
“that saying, I dont think MS is angling to buy Nokia”
not yet. they’ll wait for the valuation to crash further.
“It is exactly the sort of relationship MS wants to maintain it is how they got their dominance in the PC market”
umm, no. they had lousy product to begin with, they got rid of competitors through monopolistic practices. later, people put up with them for the longest time – they just did not have choice by then.
“so just watch if Nokia starts going down, MS will step in like a long lost uncle and give them money to keep on keeping on.”
now, you do believe in fairy tales don’t you ?
“without Nokia MS is dead in the mobile water.”
M$ is already dead in the mobile water. Has been some time.
“so just watch if Nokia starts going down, MS will step in like a long lost uncle and give them money to keep on keeping on.”
If?! Have you been avoiding all media outlets the last year? Nokia has been going down, and hard, since February 11 2011 and there has been no extra money coming from M$ to Nokia.
WP smoked by SGS doing bluetooth file transfer..
Paul, please, you are a smart and insightful person, please please try to limit the Debbie Downer stuff
WP smoked by 808 , taking high def photos..
So what does that prove? Many phones can smoke other phones, if you set the parameters that favour its best features.
So it proves nothing.
SGS3 will still outsell.
What does it prove?
it proves its strength.
obviously the sgs3 will outsell it. the sgs3 deserves so. But the defitist attitude all the pessimist here are taking are pretty funny.
Pessimists with defeatist attitude? I would say we are realists with no illusions. WP is a crappy OS that doesn’t sell. One doesn’t have to be a pessimistic defeatist to see that WP is a fail, just an observing realist.
impartial, observing realist yet you call it ‘crappy OS’? Sure, whatever.
Plus one.
i dont think people really care of things like how fast photos can be uploaded to facebook etc.
First make the beta os(wp 7.x) a fully functional one and to 2012 standards (specs) then do challenges.we will be happy.
Can I ask a really dumb question? Please don’t take offense, I apologize in advance.
Is your name “Manu” (Indian??), or are you a big British soccer fan (Man U)?
lol my name is manu(indian) and by the way im chelsea fan
haha thanks!
If the challenge is only about fb picture uploading I don’t think it would have resonated with anybody.
Since they do do more than Facebook uploading speeds, your point is moot.
At any rate, again with the defitist attitude and the narrow minded thinking that specs is everything.
but i this world we have a large no. Of narrow minded people who think specs are every thing the demand for samsung galaxy s series,htc one x etc clearly shows it.earlier it was camera m.p war
Now its specs war act according for it.
Yet the iPhone with its decidedly uncompetitive specs have stood the test of time.
And that’s 30% of the smartphone population that decided specs is not as important as the user experience. (not too sure about the %, I think its correct)
Also, the iPhone don’t come cheap and not everybody can afford an iPhone. Which begs the question, how many people that if give the opportunity to have a great experience over hardware specs alone at lower price points will respond.
Will they go after specs when for the same amount of money they can get a better user experience?
“Since they do do more than Facebook uploading speeds, your point is moot”
Agree. I think a lot of people are missing the point of these. What these “competitions” are trying to convey is how easy, fast, and simple it is to do certain tasks on a WP. People tend to focus on the Facebook uploading challenge (which I think isn’t very impressive) but miss out the other challenges. I am really impressed when they challenge others to find stores/restaurants nearby. To me, the integration of the search services (powered by Bing) is one of the best features of WP. As an owner of a Lumia, I can say they work VERY well. Fast, simple, and hassle free.
What I would like to see is a promo vid that shows nokia exclusive apps or features “smoking” other devices.
As much as this video shows how fast it would be using the Lumia, other windows phone devices are also capable of doing this. I think it would be more beneficial if Nokia would promote Lumia exclusive features more to encourage buyers to choose the lumia ones compared to other windows phone devices such as the omnia and the radar.
I think Nokia has to show people first that their phones are now very fast and easy to use, because many people still thinks that Nokia smartphones are slow and buggish.
The Lumia series seems to be gaining some traction and the sales will get a considerable boost after the people get more used to it. That’s already happening what it comes to the Lumia since the people don’t think it’s the same old Nokia crap as the Symbian and MeeGo was. It’s all about the reputation.
The Lumia series have a huge opportunity what it comes to the applications. The platform is closed so there is less piracy and software can be downloaded without major risks.
You get considerably less revenues per unit when you publish your applications on some open platform. Just remember how Apple surpassed the revenues of the Symbian platform with just about 1% market share what is comes to the istalled base. You just coudn’t make those sales on the Symbian. Today the android installed base is biggest of all but the users just refuce to pay for software. Android is an open platform.
This gives huge opportunities for those companies making hit products for the Windows Phone. People rarely think it’s slow and buggish.
Same old Nokia crap? Riiight….
Harmattan & Vanilla MeeGo had no time to fully execute with full focus/resources, not even close.
You can’t say it would’ve been like the constantly slowly moving beast that Symbian tragically was.
Nah, all you can say is hopefully WP will be a success, you can’t claim something that didn’t fully unfurl.
And hilariously you don’t understand the concept of open/closed AT ALL.
(in the context that you’re using it…)
But that will be lost on you, so I won’t go into it.
I agree. Microsoft crap is from previous century and don’t even have basic features of Symbian or MeeGo.
Anger for open software comes from Bill Gates who thinks this is something like “a comunism” in software and is openly aganist open software from many years. So misunderstandings in this area are obvious.
“The platform is closed so there is less piracy and software can be downloaded without major risks. ” – so that is a reason why developers prefere to have software not protected to avoid damages when it would b cracked? Major risk comes just from closed software as you never know what trojan is inside, especially when system ius closed.
Android is not an open platform, and I think you know about it.
There are complains in the net for slow and uncomfortable usage, just you can search it. Not only windows adverts can be found in the internet, also independent opinions.
And still Windows however there over 100 different Windows devices, still it has 0,4% of market share. Look at statcounter. ANd compare to Symbian or Linux.
His claim that WP is far less susceptible to piracy/malware purely on the basis that larger chunks are closed is not a given, far from it.
It’s just not as simple as that…..
Maybe I will go into more detail later if I CBF’d with this guy.
You both missed the point. It’s about if the software distribution is open or closed, not about the sorce code.
I see how you were confused with those two different concepts.
There is more revenue for the developers if the software distribution is limited to one store controlled by the manufacturer. If the software distribution system is open and you can download anything from anywhere, the developers just lose some revenue and there is more piracy.
Now the WP software distribution system is closed and that makes it possible to get some serious revenue from the WP platform. Android is very notorious what it comes to customers paying for software and that’s with an open distribution system.
What on earth are you talking about…
Distribution IS limited to one store for Android.
(oh and Amazon of course….)
Now if you’re referring to software being obtainable free thanks to exploits etc.
Well, you’re going to be in for a shock in a few yrs when the same is normal for WP.
(Assuming it takes-off in a big way)
iOS employs your ambiguous form of “closed” & that has mattered little.
Yeah people keep claiming that MeeGo would have succeeded while there is no proof on that. Just some wishful thinking. It’s not about the techonology. Just get over with that.
It’s nice that you just may imply that there is less sales for the Symbian apps compared to the closed platforms.
Claiming it wouldn’t have is just as bad as claiming it would have.
I pull users up when they try to assert it wouldn’t have…
The gaps for the what could’ve/would’ve happened are simply too big.
“It’s not about the techonology. Just get over with that.”
What?
“It’s nice that you just may imply that there is less sales for the Symbian apps compared to the closed platforms.”
Again, WTH are you trying to say?
Is English your second language?
It’s not about the technology. It’s not about how good or bad the Symbian actually is. The Symbian just has too bad reputation.
One Symbian phone generates less revenue compared to a phone from a manufacturer with a closed distribution system.
Since when was I talking about Symbian.
@james: Meego is a dead platform, stop supporting it, you are a blind meego fan but there is nothing you can do except crying on blogs. Face the truth and look at other wonderful options like android with much stronger ecosystem and specs.
Nope your just pure trollyness…
Never actually any interesting posts.
If anyone were to actually look at the bulk of your posts.
They’d see that 99% of them consist of childish posts like:
Android is the best, WP is crap
Symbian is dead
meego is dead
Symbian is crap
meego is crap
Android is the best
Android is the best
You never actually have anything technically interesting to post.
It’s all about childish remarks for you.
So no, your opinion has zilch weight at all.
I have no problem with Android AT ALL, I like it.
I was a regular user until a while ago, & will be again very soon.
I’m also a regular user of iOS, & until recently a Samsung Focus S (WP).
So no, your fanboy label is wrongly placed buddy.
But calling you a troll is perfectly apt.
unfortunately buddy this a blog for nokia fans.if you like android go ahead and sing songs of praise somewhere else
Errm… why is that directed at me?
Seen EVERY SINGLE post of mee-gone’s?
I’m not the one that brings-up Android constantly & puts down S^3/WP/MeeGo.
Do you see me singing songs of praise for Android in this post & others, hardly.
I simply mentioned that I like it & have used it.
true .. ‘A campaign only to show the speed of Lumia devices’
Bang on & they will be back. The mindset should change.
WP will work for Microsoft.. even if it has to be at Nokia’s expense, it will work. Microsoft pulled one of the best business maneuvers you will ever see.. their strategist and lawyers deserve an award. What they did.. simply brilliant.
One day I’d love to see the WP7.5 interface as a Qt app that can be enabled for the Nokia 808 PV, just like an Android Launcher (Samsung TouchWiz 4.0). Android-like interface and WP7.5 UI/UX. Best of all worlds.