Rumours: MS Looked into buying Nokia but walked away; Nokia didn’t want to sell anyway!
I read this post earlier today but I waited around to see if it would be picked up elsewhere and what they’re reaction would be.
The take everyone is getting is that Microsoft looked into buying Nokia but walked away.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/11/microsoft_nokia_merger/ via slashgear
No one seems to want to reiterate the point however that Nokia wasn’t looking to sell anyway.
Nokia didn’t want to sell, and Microsoft didn’t want to buy
So good on that front. Nokia does not want to sell, MS does not want to buy, and according to some resent denials, Samsung doesn’t want Nokia either.
Does it look sad that no one wants to buy Nokia? No not really. Now everyone can go about again on their merry way again until the next set of rumours. Any bets on how many days/weeks before the next ‘will MS buy Nokia’ again? :/.
The sneaky undertone are suggestions that MS should still go and buy Nokia anyway, when Nokia is much cheaper after letting it bleed more. :/ Indeed I’m oversimplifying things but it’s probably better all around if Microsoft did their darnedest to get them and Nokia out of this pickle now. Make sure Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 is successful for all their partners. MS’s aim should be to get to the point where they can drop Nokia because WP is strong enough on its own, and likewise Nokia is strong enough that it doesn’t need MS’s help for their WP line of products. If they are trying to be sneaky and purposefully letting Nokia fail just to make them cheaper in a few years, well, they’re just closing the window of opportunity for themselves. If MS want Nokia that much, well they can have advance tickets to iOS/Androids hurrah party to the death of Microsoft and Nokia.
So how are we to look at things? The Register thinks that Nokia’s come back can’t be judged until we’re into the second cycle later this year, possibly even Apollo. For those who cry about moving goalposts, suck back those tears. We’ve been pretty consistent on looking out for Q3 2012 results too. If Nokia’s WP8/W8 devices suck then, well, adiós. There are good opportunities to be had. The plan/strategies often aren’t what fails Nokia, it’s the world’s worst execution that gets them.
Nokia’s comeback can’t be fairly judged until we’re into the second cycle of products later this year based on Tango – and perhaps even the third, based on Apollo. Elop has already halved the time it takes for Nokia to make a smartphone, simply by shifting to Windows.
The article ends saying there isn’t room for this third ecosystem. Yet that third ecosystem continues to grow and blossom. Ecosystem consisting not just of apps but the rest of Microsoft’s offerings. Success for Nokia relies on a domino of success of MS’s assets. Continued success of Xbox, Office, Skype, Hotmail, Windows (and other MS products) could mean a very strong ecosystem for Nokia’s Lumia range.
Even if the MS based ecosystem succeeds, it does not immediately guarantee Nokia’s. For one, Nokia’s got strong competition from Samsung – the king of adaptation. If Samsung sniffs success/competition they’ll surely mould themselves around Windows to snuff Nokia out. This is the kind of action Nokia could have and should have done to the upstart iOS and then Android – but of course, in Nokia’s eyes touch screens weren’t going anywhere, right?
What does Nokia need to do? Just focus on producing the best devices and make sure we’re not waiting months and months to buy them. Can they do it? Yes. But each day we wait for Nokia’s hero device is another day that arrow leans closer towards NO.
Source: theregister
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Nonsense. Why would M$ buy their partners?
Have you ever bought anything just because it’s cheap
But really, it would be unheard of. Google bought Motorola Mobility. Moto was already rather dependent on Google anyway.
“Have you ever bought anything just because it’s cheap ”
good point there. Nokia apps are pretty cheap in india at the moment, I bought plenty of apps and discarded them because they were not of much use to me – or was not as appealing. i did that because the prices are rock bottom, i would not have done that had it been expensive.
Microsoft is well known from practice of buying even quite big comapnies if want resources of this companies like technologies, patents, human resources and number of others. So this is just the way they do such a things, nothing new in this context. Why are you so surprised? Read more about Microsoft.
Those are not roumors. Microsft has been given Nokia’s accounting and finnacial data at the end of 2011 and wanted to estimate if “some Nokia’s resources are worth to be taken”. After the books evaluation MS has decided is not interested in. Also Nokia was not sure if want anything to sell. Nokia has told high prices, what had an influence on not continuing futher steps. It is not known if MS takes under consideration to overtake the whole Nokia still. However considering financial situation of finnish giant pretty soon it can be bought almost by nothing = free.
I think those are consequences of “brilliant differently” decissions and statemants of Mr Elop like efforts to kill Symbian and MeeGo and first of all hard enforcing Windows to be the best without considring what are customers needs and expectations.
As a comment I also would like to add that as potential buyer had the clear insight into the Nokia’s books then MS can cleraly to plan best for MS strategy to overtake what they want and throw away all the rest including unnided resources like equipment, properties and employees IMHO.
Anyway apparently something went not as planned, otherwise we would already see “MS bought Nokia” headlines. The higiest time to think over all this mess.
M$ has burned a lot of Nokia products… Until Nokia has nowhere to stand beside WP…
You really think it would be a good idea to be bought by Microsoft?
Have you taken a look at what usualy happens to companies after takeover by MS?
All that would remain is the Nokia name and logo.
Even that, is bound to change.
Why buy something that already owns?
Are you guys and gals seeing the prices on the MacBook Pro? Through the roof. No iPhone 5 or t.v. yet. The question is how much is everyone willing to pay for having everything in their tech product when it outdates in a year. Perhaps a good new product would be a Nokia 311 ultrabook alongside a coffee tab.
love to see iSheep milked. they have the wool too to be sheared. fool and his money are easily parted, only apple makes sure the sheep are on cloud9 , benevolent dictator I must say!
Have you guys seen the prices on the MacBook Pro? Sky high. No iPhone 5 or t.v. yet. Perhaps having everything on tech devices is pricing the device out of consumers price range. We need a Nokia 311 ultrabook along with a coffee tab.
apple is really just introducing more fluff that consumers don’t really need..
…wait till the iTrolls hear that
There is no room for 3rd Ecosystem when it is supported by 3rd class poor management like Nokia and Microsoft….From apple’s keynote iphone 3gs would still get ios 6 and here in 3rd class ecosystem Lumia phones won’t get wp8
But the first generation ipad didn’t get a update. If 3gs wouldn’t sell so well they would not support it. It is not about being loyal to customers Apple is all about how to earn money…
The first iPad’s already been discontinued, that’s why.
Good thing. YouTube preloaded didn’t even work and yet they sold it that way. It was all fuzzy. Most apps were just bigger iPhone apps,nothing special to make better use of the space. The much heralded e trade app was a joke. All I got for a $835 used iPad was $100.
Still just speculation on your part.
I think Nokia would rather disrupt to a new field then sell out. From their start in Robert boots all they way to being a legendary mileston in cellular tech, Nokia can switch on the fly.
Ya, I was extremely disappointed in my iPad 1, for $835 it was a waste. I am enjoying my HP touchsmart instead much better. Apple fooled me on that one, I bought the hype.
I don’t see how Windows 8 will be problem for Microsoft. I do see lots of manufacturers with more experience selling Windows devices creating a lot of competition on the Windows 8 tablet space. Nokia will be the bottom dog in that arena and though their Booklet 3G was nice it was too expensive. I don’t see depending on carrier relationships as a good thing for Nokia Windows 8 devices.
As regards Windows Phone 8, they have better prospects regarding their competitors but they have a much smaller market share. Windows Phone is very carrier-centric so Nokia’s relationships there will help. A strategic relationship with Nokia is probably better than buying them at this point so they don’t scare away the other Windows Phone partners.
Booklet 3G was too expensive because inside it was a pathetic little netbook in a macbook level shell. If Nokia made the booklet 3G more powerful, the price would have increased slightly but more justified.
Take the new macbooks and the airs. Super pricey, but dang, they’re very sturdy, they last, they look good and you get your money’s worth.
Nokia could go down that route, though I think ASUS has this all tied up pretty nicely. ASUS have been constantly innovating in the tablet/notebook space.
If Nokia builds solid, compelling tablets that are as stylish the Lumias and have them at launch, they will do very well with them. The best evidence of this is the Lumia 900 is the overwhelming preferred choice even though the HTC Titan II is a better phone (except for style and exclusive apps). Imagine the Nokia mapping apps alone on a wickedly stylish W8 super tablet.
Though its a new endeavour for Nokia so I’m not certain they will have the goods to take on ASUS, HP, Dell etc at launch but if they can at least match their hardware they will certainly be the top dog because of name and exclusive apps.
I been assuming(and hoping) that Microsoft would step in for a defensive buy if their hand was forced by someone else going after Nokia but I think they (and Nokia even more so) would rather Nokia remain independent.
I really don’t see why nokia is so slow in shaking things up. Why do Android phones sell so well? Simply because of the hype on multiple core processors and plenty of ram. Intel said that Android as a OS isn’t ready for multiple cores yet. But, really, the buyers don’t care! There are 900,000 (if you believe the numbers) android activation per day. People are still buying android phones. This is how the consumer world works – multi is better than single. No matter how efficient the OS might be only few will consider that as a criteria before buying. The vast majority will go for multiple cores phones. And android is offering that now. Why can’t nokia join the race and beat them at their game? Why can’t they put out there phones with multicores processors, good ram, and a customizable OS? Samsung did that now they are high up in the clouds with high sales. 9 million preorder is not a joke. Giving the consumer what appeals to them lead to sales.
The Window phone 8 is said to support multiple cores processors. Maybe nokia would get it right then. But I have a gutt feeling that nokia first WP8 phone will be a big let down again. I pray it’s not.
Nokia is worthless and it’s not a competition for Samsung or anyone else. Soon Nokia will beg for someone to buy it. They are loosing more and more every day. It’s sad. Every other smartphone maker is progressing and what Nokia does? Ads for Microsoft?
Wait until you see Apollo my friend.
Lust worthy, multicore pureview goodness from Nokia across both phone and tablet spaces.
Source?: We haven’t seen much of it but it’s beginning to point to a dud.
it was microsoft which actually needed nokia, when they began the partnership. after nokia got “walloped/eloped” and burnt all symbian sales – it looks like nokia needs microsoft!
Total nonsense. As was proved by Symbian, iOS or Android, mobile phone is entirely different device and things like Windows, xbox or Office are irrelevant for success. MS has nothing to offer to Nokia, in fact MS is drowning Nokia by wasting resources on things like xbox or office integration instead of fixing WP and making it usable smartphone, not just appendage of their existing ecosystem.
Meego N9 is very good Model and don’t know why Nokia has dropped its fund and engineers. Nokia should follow a strategy of having multiple OS,which makes them to deliver customers with lot of choices.
Because it is competition to MS and their WP.
And you are right N9 is good model.
On topic: I hope MS will not buy NOKIA, i don’t want to get another phone.
Nokia needs to get more phones, not just Lumias. New N9 and even some Droid. People are still believing in NOKIA, it’s still a brand here and if they give new different models not just WP they will be back on track. But i’m afraid that will not happen and in the end MS or someone else will buy them. :/
I agree, with only one small “but”: I believe in Nokia N9. That is my choice. Period. Hough, I have spoken my words of trust and hopes.