Nokia 808 PureView vs Canon EOS 5D and Minolta A1 (and a look at 808 accessories agian)
I just saw this RT’d by John Pope. It’s another look at the Nokia 808 PureView with some comparisons to the Minolta A1 and Canon EOS 5D.
http://www.gadgeterija.net/2012/07/23/nokia-808-pureview-pixels-are-more-than-irrelevant/
The iPhone colours….they might be wrong but there seems to be quite a lot of people that love the over saturation (until of course, a Nokia does it and then over saturation is bad :/ ). Anyway, this article is even more proof about the power of the oversampling from PureView.
What I found most interesting is the comparison with the Canon EOS 5D.
For this image:
“As 808 PureView lacks the ability to oversample images automatically to 12MP, test photo was done on a tripod and manually oversampled to fit dimensions that Canon 5D produced. What you can see in crops is not a trick. There is no photo editing whatsoever, and both devices fired in auto mode. 808 managed to provide more details in every single part of test photo; be it sprocket in the background, be it blade of grass above the plastic shovel, be it holes on the cardboard box or fibres on the broom.”
http://www.gadgeterija.net/2012/07/23/nokia-808-pureview-pixels-are-more-than-irrelevant/
Surpassing all other camera phones is something we’re taking for granted now in the Nokia 808 PureView. It’s even eating up pocket cams, dedicated digicams and giving DSLR’s a good fight too. It’s quite something to even be compared to a DSLR, let alone come out with images that are supposedly better (in certain conditions).
“The matter is quite simple, really – in some conditions PureView can outperform anything. That is all.”
http://www.gadgeterija.net/2012/07/23/nokia-808-pureview-pixels-are-more-than-irrelevant/
There’s much more to the article than the camera. You get a brief section on Belle and a look at the eye patch cover and the tripod stand thingy too.
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I didn’t have any 8MP units by my side at the time of the test, so I said – why not pull out the big guns. Thanks for posting this.
Noob question for my 808…
Would a 5MP picture have more oversampling than an 8MP picture?
I’m currently taking 8mp pictures using creative mode. What advantage would 5MP provide besides file size? Low light advantage etc?
Thanks!
Yes, it would. The smaller the resulting picture, the higher the oversampling, and the less noticeable the defects. It all depends what is the intended use for your picture. Uploading to facebook? use the smallest size you can get. A poster size print? shoot in full res 38MP. Long term archival? 38MP. Casual viewing in your computer screen? 5MP.
Interesting ideas there, and makes total sense.
I’ve had C1 set to 8mp Pureview, C3 as 8mp pureview B&W/high contrast (which can be beautiful in its results). Reckon I’ll set C2 as 5mp pureview.
The creative modes are very, very good.
Nokia 808 pure view..the best
808′s pictures lack something, the pictures have a very cold, blue tone to them, N8 took warmer pictures.
Look at the hose in the Canon comparison picture, 5D looks warmer and better.
IMO it’s just more realistic. The whites shine white, as they should, unlike the Canon ( the plastic shovel pic ). It is difficult to say for sure without actually being there.
Precisely, Bloob. Nokia 808 PV produced results which were in terms of both wb and overall colour reproduction closest to what I saw with my own eyes.
Mind you, I have two spyder calibrated Dell 2209 screens and very uncalibrated short eyesight.
If you guys want more examples let me know, as I am returning the unit in these few days…
Can you do low light comparisons please? Outside, dusk, night, in-room?
Also, can you take 5MP, 8MP picture, with different sharpness settings?
I shall do my best given the limited time, but I can’t promise a full and detailed comparison as in the review.
From 808′s white paper i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/849564/data/2/-/Download1.pdf
“Pixel oversampling combines many pixels to create a single (super) pixel. When this happens, you keep
virtually all the detail, but filter away visual noise from the image. The speckled, grainy look you tend to
get in low-lighting conditions is greatly reduced. And in good light, visual noise is virtually non-existent.
Which means the images you can take are more natural and beautiful than ever.”
so pureview mode would give most realistic colors and details
@Denis
can you tell me honestly. Is the PV worth the upgrade from an n8? Hows the build quality and loudspeaker compared to the n8? Basically how does it compare to the n8 please? Or would you suggest to wait for a wp pv? Thanx btw
808 is the upgrade for n8.. so typically yes at all aspects.. except for the aluminun body
Compared to the N8, it is most definitely an upgrade in just about every possible way (case is not metallic, though I wouldn’t consider that a bad thing per se), but…there’s this WP notion…
If you are a user that can’t live without certain Symbian features, I’d wait a month, or two, just to make sure what features are going to be present in WP8 – since at this point we don’t know much. Then I would place my choice (and frankly, that’s what I am up to anyhow, so we’re in a similar position).
If Belle makes you more than happy (or you are simply impatient
), on the other hand, I’d go for 808. Nokia ought to support it for a while and I just can’t state enough how good the images are from it. Haven’t uploaded any to http://denisjelec.deviantart.com/ gallery, but I definitely plan to in the following days. Make sure you check out the link at the very end of the review (and prior to the accesories overview) as I’ve included some fullsized photos.
Cheers!
Not to forget WP8 version of PureView is believed to be offering nothing greater or even equal to Belle counterpart. In fact, its as much lesser as half of 808PV’s powers, prowess & dat hump, dat lovely lady lump.
You review is one of the best I’ve enjoyed so far.
This one, by Tor Slettnes, is very pragmatic:
http://www.amazon.com/review/RJZ4FFMDBYT7Y/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
and Big Cheers to J, for bringing us such worthy piece of read.
Cheers man!
A big resounding yes. The 808 is a huge improvement from the N8 in every aspect:
1. The faster processor and space on C-drive makes a big difference in almost everything that you do – faster loading (especially the camera!) time and smoother all round.
2. Battery also seems to last a whole lot longer.
3. 4 inch screen with CBD – much more comfortable for reading.
4. Construction – has a very premium feel, and IMO grips well.
5. Rich Recording
6. Camera UI is much better and more customizable.
7. And most importantly, image quality. The 808 excels in capturing sharper images (especially when cropped) and in low light situations. I have taken a few images comparing the N8 and 808, you can see the difference for yourself:
808PV:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55670489@N04/7176301527/
N8:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55670489@N04/7361555336/in/photostream
808PV:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55670489@N04/7501534972/
N8:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55670489@N04/7501556958/in/photostream
NEW CONCEPT https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/552245_266748236772420_54334458_n.jpg
Impossibiru. No, seriously, it is impossible to fit the PV inside Lumia800/N9 shell.
But this device would be sexy as hell
ya you are half right its imposible with lumia because of windows but meego have the capability to adopt pure view its more advance then android : )
C.S.B
android?
heck, no.
Got my 808 white last week. It’s amazing device, amazing OS. Rich sound in the videos is another dimension, especially on headphones.
To Symbian: yes, browser is slow, opera is much better, but still I can imagine a better browsing experience on symbian. I CAN definitely accept it. It does the job.
I just tried to connect wireless logitech keyboard and mouse via USB dongle and it works! I can type and navigate phone through standard devices. That’s impressive. I need to get microHDMI cable connect with LCD monitor. With available (MS) Office apps we have great workhorse as well.
Opera is fast but laggy on 808, and on any other symbian devices. I feel painful when I pinch zoom-in. I dont want to accept this fact.
So I havent used the 808 for browsing the internet, I use my iPad instead.
@ dennis
hows the music playback through the headphones compared to the n8? I listen a lot of music on the go.
Thanx again
I couldn’t perceive any major differences TBH, both are more than excellent in that area. 808 might be better, as I didn’t use my fiio amplifier to see if the sound gets distorted at some level
ya this phones is crazy.. I really like mine. I shot this from the car couple of days ago.. color, detail, low noise.. can’t ask for more
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/cam/nokia/808_pureview/201207190606ym3566.jpg
What can I say, as a pocketable camera the 808 PureView is a really compelling choice. It just amazes me so much of the time, the pictures I mean.
Is it kaknästornet Stockholm Sweden?
Ser väldigt bekant ut
Nokia 808 takes amazing photos.
Got to read the original article.
Hejsan!
Javisst, the one and only! After that photo test I got stranded in djurgården during rain. Barely kept the device dry. -.-
Cheers!
I would have loved to see a video shot with 808 of the roller coaster in gröna lund (quick movements).
But then you might have dropped it
Thanks for the article, the camera in 808 blows me away.
Yeah, frankly, I wouldn’t dare going with this piece onto those mad machines…too risky.