Nokia N9/Lumia resemblances to iPhone in 2006?
For some reason, prototype iPhone pics supposedly from 2006 have been published. You can see a gallery from TheVerge below.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3189305/2006-iphone-prototype-images#3597477
ICEman who tipped this in noted that it resembles the N9 (Or Lumia 800), albeit without the slightly tapering edges. There’s definitely some resemblance.
Who knows what Nokia’s own unpublished protos look like? I know they showcased something that looks like the iPhone 4 way back in 2006 too.
One of the immediate comparisons, especially from ElMu, was that the N9/800 looked like an iPod.
Quite different from the sides and back.
Source: theverge.
Cheers ICEman for the tip!
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All ideas are made up of other ideas.
apple’s hubris is breathtaking, how they assume what they do is “original” and what everyone else comes up with is inferior/ ripping off their ideas.
Yes so now Apple reveals all the failed protos and mockups, and then complains if someone else makes similar looking device in future.
Now as the pics are out, no one shouldn’t make similar devices?? BS! Actually few mockups had similar shapes as Nokia Prism series had much earlier.
the N9 is way more elegant
so? I mean early apple iPods were based and inspired by the sony walkman…
iphone 4 was a direct copy of NOKIA *wait for it* AD-54
… yes the headset adapter that came with N86 and 5800
LOL true
Yes,My n81 had this adapter. in 2008.
f***** that. just because it has a similar rop, doesn’t mean nokia copied them. there are limited choices when designing a top of a phone. and when you look at the rest of the phone the n9 is a piece of art.
f***** apple, the world can finally see how they had their designs inspired/copied from sony designs. freakin hypocrites. 1 design for 5 years, compared to the tons of different designs nokia used in the last 10 years. i hope nokia will keep the n9 design language for the next generation. they need to put in peoples heads this identity
I don’t think anybody is implying that Nokia ripped off Apple as there is almost no way that Nokia would have known what Apple prototypes even look like.
dont compare icrap with nokia
Just look at iPod’s NANO 2nd gen design
http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/ipodnano-3-091206.jpg
And? I own one of these and it’s noting like my N9.
Sure there’s many similar design cues, but overall they’re totally different.
I was referring to the similarity of this prototype an iPod from the same year.
Why look for similarities in the disclosed images, when the same design has been used in the manufactured product …
As said I own a iPod Nano 2G & a N9, they’re very different in design/aesthetic “overall”.
I agree slightly with Maciej, however I thought it looked like the iPod Mini when I seen the picture, obviously the screen is different but the design is similar and it (the mini) came out in 2004.
Design iterates & builds upon one another, nothing surprising here at all, there’s plenty of well doco’d info out there demonstrating that their work was inspired from/by others, even a few examples cited in this thread.
It’s way too different from both items suggested to be called an outright copy, not close enough at all to be seen as that.
Now if you’re referring to one of the KIRFS made in China in recent years, that’s another thing altogether.
Many of them are straight-up copy’s, no question.
“that their work was inspired from/by others, even a few examples cited in this thread.”
by their I mean Apple ofc.
I don’t believe those are really the prototypes. They could have created it this year…and published, so that Lumias will get a bad name.
No, these were made public because of the court case they have with Samsung over copying/stealing design ideas from Apple.
It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the Lumia line. Besides, the Lumia already looks a bit like an iPod Nano so the resemblence is there already.
@Jay: Stay a bit on top of the game will ya
. They aren’t published for some reason, but because of the Samsung v. Apple trial.
I thought it might have something to do with that. I don’t know how the courts are somehow letting Samsung get away with it. Clearly Samsung have had their own nice designs in the past and kudos to them, but when iPhone and iPad came, Samsung immediately cloned them. SGS is an iPhone and so is the SGSII. Pretty much. Just look at the face and look at the icon lay out as well as the dock. And then suddenly they have a tablet too and the only way they can make one is to make it look like an iPad? Yes I know, rectangles and screens but Nokia can make rectangles and screens look different. Because then Acer and Moto copied them with the whole tapering edges thing.
if you think the sgs2 is a clone of the iphone you must be blind. as for the software part give me a break. you can’t do very much with the ui. symbian,ios,android all look about the same in terms of ui.
as for the ipad, samsung had that design a few years prior on one of their products, a digital photo frame http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_6854.html.
and now after these reveals you can’t say samsung copied apple,when apple itself copied sony designs,not only for their phone, but laptops aswell. everybody gets inspired by the competition, only apple thinks that their shit doesn’t stink and they made the whole world believe through manipulation that samsung copies them
I can see some of jays points….
And there’s def. no way Apple copied Samsung when it comes to their MBP & Air.
They’ve been pushing innovation boundaries there in last few yrs, no need to copy.
Do agree to some extent that they can get overzealous…
Sure they may have copied design/aesthetic elements… But there’s some serious design & engineering chops going into their MBP & Air that have zilch to do with taking anything from Samsung.
To say they outright completely copied is just not right.
they copied off sony for the mbp…
That age old argument just isn’t true. People tend to say they copied from that wafer thin Sony laptop for the Air, yet that looks a whole load different.
The Air is a great example of design, the first iteration sucked big time because of poor processor power. But right now, you can’t beat the Air in terms of a portable laptop. Only the Zenbooks from Asus come close.
Back on topic; the SGS1 was a straight lift from the 3GS. The SGS2 might have borrowed some elements from the iPhone 4, but it looks different enough to give Samsung a pass there. The iPad vs. any Galaxy Tab is a different story, a tablet just remains usable and comfortable to use when you use certain design elements. So it will logically look like an iPad. Although Samsung could definitly have put more effort into their designs.
before there was the macbook air there was the regular macbook-completely inspired by sony laptops. their tablet is copied after samsung producsts, the iphone is a simple design so they can’t blame people if other phones look like it. they are scammers, nothing more, and they keep doing these lawsuits to stop competition and put the idea in people’s head that they are original and eveybody else is copying them. they are manipulators
Well, that may be your viewpoint…
But folk who are more objective, & appreciates tech for tech’s sake from ALL the major vendors, wouldn’t be quite as extreme.
“…Samsung immediately cloned them. ”
samsung’s own f700 music player which was released a lot earlier, looked a lot like the original iphone, who cloned whom jay ?
Actually, that prototype reminds me of a Sony Ericcson phone from around that time. It also reminds me of a BRAUN calculator, with BRAUN design being a known inspiration J. Ives. Anyway, these is all fanboy mudslinging, nobody really cares.
Apple seem to think their designs exist in isolation, that they appeared out of thin air out of Jonathan Ives’ fertile imagination
I say screw that. You should be able to use whatever design as long as you don’t copy a product 100% like a cheap Chinese-made KIRF. Just look at the fashion industry where everyone copies everyone else yet they don’t go around suing people for using rectangles…
+1
You can’t make infinite different designs out of rectangular and that too in 16:9 ratio
Actually this prototype looks like N9/Lumia the most. http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Screen-shot-2012-07-29-at-L-17.jpeg
not even close
stop kidding yourselves people.
if nokia had half of the design vision that apple did they wouldn’t be in the situation they are right now.
im far from an apple fanboy, but the fact you are comparing a prototype from 2006 of the most influential phone of the last decade to a nokia released in 2011 is laughable.
if you don’t believe the truth… see this image showing phone design trends pre and post first iphone:
http://windycitygo.org/assets/4f4274dfdabe9d0b6b002210/cultofmac.jpg
Design/aesthetic alone does not cover the entire innovation spectrum, far from it.
It’s how they’ve put certain elements together that has defined apples success.
It’s a formula that won’t necessarily always prevail…
In fact if I were a betting man, I’d wager it wont be dominating/influencing to anywhere near the degree it has 5yrs from now.
We’ll just have to wait & see….
“if nokia had half of the design vision that apple did”
you seem to have forgotten apple only changed its iphone design once. nokia has put out many phones in the same period. many of those have won design awards. the materials used by nokia are far more superior then its competitors and has been long before apple made phones.
you really need to do a bit more research before you make idiotic comments you know nothing about.
If you are trying to argue that Nokia has superior design creds to Apple then you are absolutely delusional. I refer to both hardware and UX.
So Nokia won a few awards, every tech company has won awards. There are enough of them to apply for.
As share prices will help you see, none of those shiny pieces of metal has converted to sales because none of those “designs” are rooted in any consumer insight whatsoever.
That’s because for the past 10 years Nokia was nothing but an arrogant company of engineers making phones for engineers.
They’ve only (just) woken up in the last 2 years after realising that their business was firmly at the bottom of the toilet in both the high and low ends of the market.
Please dont try to patronise me about “comments I know nothing about”. Unless you can provide me with any evidence rebutting any of the above (which you cannot) then shut your neck.