Rumour: Super-Nokia Camera Phone next year, Nokia 700 Belle in September.
We received an email sent in by long time reader and super Symbian-Fan Ninja, who’s friends apparently with one of the senior staff at one of the UK’s mobile networks . No revealing details mentioned of course for anonymity’s sake. So take this all as rumours, actually not too far out if you take a read.
He’s passed on some details of the conversation related to Nokia developments, which in their line of work, they’d be familiar with (such as upcoming handsets).
Here goes:
- Belle will be out by September in the UK in the form of the Nokia 700. This shouldn’t be too much of surprise given the Nokia 700 passed FCC last month. That of course belongs to a family of four upcoming Symbian handsets, one of which, the Nokia 500 was announced last week. September for the Nokia 700 therefore seems quite a possibility.
- Of their opinion, Belle is good. Apparently they also like Windows Phone Mango. They also apparently blame the Symbian failure to Elop’s Feb 11 announcement (really?:p).
The big bit -
- Next year we will see a new phone with “an incredible camera”. It’s supposedly very impressive and will put Nokia way ahead in the camera stakes.
- Note, there are several rumours regarding a N8 successor – currently the best camera on any phone to date. The first suggested a N8-01 symbian successor, but since the WP partnership, the rumours suggested a Nokia WP with N8 like optics, as now WP will gain all the Nokia high end stuff next year. Remember too that Elop has been saying that what we’ve seen from the N8 is just a FRACTION of what they’ve got at the Nokia Labs, and in interview, he mentions getting these great things from Labs out onto the market. Addition – as mentioned in comments – remember “True Zoom” – direct from Nokia.
- What OS will this handset be? Well we’re not sure. It wasn’t said for definite. Ninja thinks it’s Symbian (though he would :p). What has been discussed before is that Nokia’s high end WP devices won’t be appearing until next year (would that be this one with the super cam?) Nokia’s best work, as Ninja reminds us of Elop’s words, will be on Windows Phone from now on.
- Ninja doesn’t want to reveal anything too specific with the camera capabilities as he says this might undermine Nokia’s efforts, or send info to competitors (loong before such things area ready, and by heck, this is Nokia, so it’ll be a while folks :p). Apparently it’s not just the specifications that are exciting, but the implementation of certain features of the camera hardware.
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psstt.. i’ve heard super-nokia-camera-phone from nokia staff in my country.. psssttt..
what time next year? Could be december knowing nokia you know xD Anyway imo they shouldve gone with MeeGo-Harmattan as the OS for N8′s successor. Its been around an year and a half since N8 was announced. A lot of time. I thought N8-01 was going to be announced at nokia world. But if you take launch of N9 and announcement of Sea Ray into account that’s of course not gonna happen.
And I soo hope N8-01 (N 801 ?) is not just camera flagship. It’s flagship of the whole portfolio and getting everything right on both hardware and software fronts.
I am pretty sure that the imaging quality of the N8 is partially due to the Symbian code..maybe is something to do with the post-processing of the jpeg files, i dunno, but how else would you explain the fact that the N8 was announced 1 1/2 ago, and it has been on the market for almost 9 months.. still nothing from the competition..Samsung,Sony,Apple,Htc.. they’ve all taken apart the N8 100 times over by now.. also Sammy and Sony have way more experience in digital imaging than Nokia.. makes no sense. I wish Damian Dinning would share some info in regards to that. I am pretty sure his team wasn’t happy with the WP7 switch, it isn’t all about hardware.
Either way, they will deliver something good next year.
> also Sammy and Sony have way more experience in digital imaging than Nokia
That’s why Nokia consistently produces by FAR the best phone cameras, and sells by far the greatest number of cameras (embedded in phones) every year
Wasn’t this at GSMArena’s rumor mill? The Nokia 700 with 12 megapixel Carl Zeiss camera. Supposedly to have a dual-xenon flash. Interesting …
this I find higly unlikely
700 has full focus 8MP camera
well if I recall some Nokia exec mentioned they are working on some form of optical zoom…
Maybe a camera phone with optical zoom…
Nokia has toooo many rumours, this OS, that OS, this hardware, that hardware, this month, that month.
At least make them closer to the time of delivering, or they will sound like 1001 nights tales.
“Nokia” doesn’t make the so-called rumors, they don’t go around divulging their secrets. They’re called rumors for a reason.
Tej here, baby !
My dream nokia::16 mpx carl zeiss auto focus camera, 10x optical zoom, 1 xenon and duel led flash captured at 60fps and full hd video recording, face detection,smile and blink detection,night vision (through camera),infrared scanning 4.5 inch 3D display, 80gb memory,usb otg. Etc..
yep maybe in year 7000 nokia 7000000000000
o wait
Nokia 800
am I the only one who think that nokia only announce stuff but not releasing anything?
I mean I like Nokia and everything but we are waiting too long for devices to come…
Just saying…
+1; by the time tihs device comes in mkt the gap betn this and competitiors phone esp samsung will be minimal and thy may hav better other specs…
Was that device announced? I see rumour on the title and the article.
They haven’t announced anything, this is a RUMOR. Learn what that word means.
…as obvious as rumors can get……!
This Ninja guy gives nothing but the most predictable info!
Of course Nokia will have an N8 successor with a even better camera.
Of course it will launch next year, since the Sea Ray seems to be the only WP7 Nokia this year…
Of course the 700 and the others will be launched within the coming months….
The Nokia Super Phone will have a 4th generation Snapdragon CPU and Adreno 320 GPU. Its just expected of Nokia.Its not as if they will use a 2nd gen single core chip….thats for the sea ray.
I want more interesting specs! like display resolution…will they continue to use 800×480 screens in 2012?
/The Nokia Super Phone will have a 4th generation Snapdragon CPU and Adreno 320 GPU/
and this IS GOOD??? on what world are you living?
Well, I take your point, but I’ve given specifics, and the camera capability is extremely impressive – will make everything else on the market look weak.
MMM… yeah… look at your ultra-crisppy-nearreality HD display… in my personal… 1280*720 is the best option for ultra neplus premiun devices… becuase despite the fact that your device can record 1080p you cannot enjoy it because the plus about HD is to see on a BIG display to see the details… on tiny displays (<32") is useless, and nothing more than a marketing strategy (And that is a fact)
N8′s sucessor next year isn’t hard to believe. What’s impossible is for belle to out by September. I mean Common~! Anna still even out yet and it’s August already!! If Belle does comes out in september heavens will rain fire!
It is out. E6 and x7 have been shipping with it for a while
Belle in the form of the 700. Belle for everyone to download will be a bit longer I expect, just like happened with Anna.
I don’t know about the OS (most likely WP) but Qualcomm’s 1.5GHz dual-core S3 is a certainty
> most likely WP
Nope. It is definitely Symbian, guaranteed. WP is not up to the job yet, I think was the implication from what I heard.
That sounds great to me. Another Nokia phone to get for me after the N9.
Finally we see Nokia coming to their senses.
Too many iconic blunders, I feel it’s impossible for Nokia to do the right thing.
If it had MeeGo, I’d buy it no matter what. Isn’t MeeGo possible? There was another rumor that Nokia is working on another MeeGo device. Though it was said to be a tablet most likely…
this might have 14 or 16 mp camera with FULL HD!
You’re thinking much, much too small
80 Gigapixel london. By n8-01. hahahahaha /jk
http://www.360cities.net/london-photo-en.html
n8 is the best cameraphone available! but people are buying iphones and htcs and galaxies.
the fact is that most people don’t care for the best camera in their phone, so having better camera won’t save nokia.
Thanks for the write up
What I stated is actually fact right now (as in it’s not rumour, it’s fact (why? because of who I heard it from) and will continue to be fact unless the plan changes), and I have to say I’m a lot more excited about this stuff than most of the other rumours I’ve heard (it’s easy to become jaded by rumours, eh?).
Apparently WP is not ready for the big time in terms of Nokia’s next high end flagship camera being on a WP device rather than a Symbian device. Symbian of course, is ready. (You know, there are reasons why I keep saying WP is CURRENTLY a failure, not ready yet etc…!)
OK, so I wasn’t aware they’d ever announced ‘Truezoom’. Sounds like this is what I have heard about. Let’s just say the capabilities are IMPRESSIVE. So, we’ve seen the N8 easily match a DSLR for image quality (e.g. http://thehandheldblog.com/2010/10/04/shootout-nokia-n8-v-canon-550d-dslr/ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VodhwvJZfL0 – only phone camera capable of *print-quality* fashion photos). Well the new development sounds like they have matched (or exceeded) a DSLR for zoom capability – without having a zoom lens (yep, no bulky zoom lens). Very clever
So, dare I say it? The DSLR will be dead (I can hear camera enthusiasts everywhere choking on their coffee). Courtesy of Nokia (and Symbian)
They said it would be, and now I can see exactly why.
Oh noes. What ever shall I do with my Canon 60D (it’s a little cumbersome to use at times). I think it will still have its uses. Such as looking all Hispter like, taking pictures of trees and broken pavements /s.
I think DLSRs will still have their place. Compacts will definitely begin dying out when this type of quality trickles down to cheaper levels. Right now you can get ok quality point and shoots for about 80GBP. I broke my point and shoot when I bought my 60D (it did a suicidal jump at the floor of the camera shop. Jealousy killed it) and thought I’d need to buy a new one but N8 has served well enough there. I just need that continuous AF from Anna please.
So that guy mentioned zoom? Possibly internal zoom so phone doesn’t extend. Hopefully with automatic camera cover.
Thanks for the tip.
DSLRs will still have their place, for proper camera enthusiasts. But most people are not proper camera enthusiasts. But they like the features unique to a DSLR. What if you could get that in a phone?
Yeah zoom – but not what you’re expecting
Very clever.
Nokia can be great camera maker
I’m sorry but while your info could be fact, I only take it as such when you either say who you got it from or when I hear it directly from Nokia themselves.
Right now it’s just rumours and nothing more. Ow, and Symbian powering the next big camera phone? Could be, but Nokia would be sending out yet another weird message when they grant Symbian some high profile device. Symbian was EOL, releasing another high-end device with it would send out a very wrong message to customers, developers and investors.
Not saying I don’t believe it, it just seems so wrong in the light of recent strategy changes.
Agree. It would be strike 2 on elop.
Let’s rephrase.
Not saying I don’t believe it, it just seems so “right” in the light of recent “wrong” strategy changes.
It is only wrong if it fails, and so far it can’t be judged. And don’t start with ‘market cap is halved’ sales dropping etc.
That might be due to a strategy change, but ultimately sales of the new strategy (WP) will determine whether it was a big risk that failed or succeeded.
Not implying WP will be a succes though, I’m still fairly skeptical towards succes of WP and Nokia.
What??? I don’t know where to start
I agree. And not trying to insult Ninja, but at this point in time even Eldar is more believable right now.
Honestly, the N8′s camera was good enough. If this is a Symbian device, I don’t think they should worry about making a better camera. They should fix the PIM sync issues first.
Well if I wasn’t me, and heard this, I wouldn’t believe it either
All I can say is, the camera abilities are very impressive, never heard of this level of capability before (the example given to me – to do with zoom), but it makes sense given Elop’s statement that N8 is only a fraction of what they can do – yes N8 is “only a fraction” of the capabilities I’ve just been told about. And I’m glad to say is definitely a Symbian handset.
But worry not, Windows Phone fans, you know Nokia has said their best work will be for WP (insanity though I personally think that is), so this capability will undoubtedly eventually come to WP too.
‘Well if I wasn’t me, and heard this, I wouldn’t believe it either’
Exactly, nail on the head. If you provided more tips that turned out te be true it would make it all the more believable.
And again, not meaning to bash you. Just my thoughts.
I think you can keep an eye out for the Nokia 700 appearing sooner than you think. Lot of info already public suggests things appearing quite soon. The FCC filing and timing along with 500 suggests this is highly plausible.
The stuff about the new Nokia Camera – well, we’ll have to see what is so special about the zoom portion. At least unlike Eldar this is quite specific, unlike his “bad things in Nokia will happen”…as that happens ALL the time lately.
Yeah, the 700 will probably be up for grabs quickly. I was amazed at the speed the 500 came out.
I reffered to the N8 succesor with Symbian part that seems a bit odd to say the least.
Wow Ninja trolled MyNokiaBlog.
That guy is a fake, just makes up nonsense, don’t trust what he says. And even if you trust him, who cares? So they are releasing a phone shaped camera with dialing features… Who cares?
Next year the only thing Nokia will be releasing is an invoice to Microsoft.
Ha ha
No trolling here mate. Anonymity to protect identities and thus jobs. It’s all true.
The worst thing Nokia did by FAR was the Feb 11th announcement, totally shot themselves in the foot. Symbian was always destined to continue and grow a bit for a bit longer in history, but Elop killed Symbian marketshare – not Android, not iPhone, not Symbian being uncompetitive, but Elop’s Feb 11th announcement, pure and simple.
no it’s not that pure and simple and as a smart person I am sure you surely realise that too.
Totally agree – Elops comments in February truly were his own ‘Gerald Ratner moment’ on a grand scale.
Pure corporate disaster for the CEO to slag off his own product in this way. He should be ashamed or sacked – Gerald had to quit for the same thing…
“Next year the only thing Nokia will be releasing is an invoice to Microsoft.”
LOL! That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard here for a while!
The N8 is IMHO overrated. The image Quality is OK, but no replacement for a good compact camera. The Xenon is too weak too.
And the N8 suffers from some problems with image quality-the blurred right side.
I hope the N9 will do it better. Megapixel count is not equal to better image quality.
So people interrested in good image quality buy a good compact camera and a more functional iPhone or Android device.
Exactly.
A decent point and shoot camera like a Panasonic TZ series will absolutely put the N8 to shame, get real will you? N8 is OK, but don’t get carried away.
Oh yeah? Sorry to rain on your parade, but let’s take the Panasonic TZ-10 shall we, “a stonker of a megazoom point and shoot camera. Priced at around £329 on launch, it is one remarkably awesome digital camera.” and then dear me, what have we here!? The N8 comes along and matches or beats it. Sorry
http://mynokiablog.com/2010/10/04/gallery-nokia-n8-versus-panasonic-tz10-versus-samsung-i8910-vs-nokia-n82-plus-a-xenon-flash-test/
Apart from zoom, it also performs better than Samsung’s WB600/WB650. 250-300 around June last year. Flash is weaker though, but it’s always a pain to have to bring that chunky thing AND a phone on a night out. I’m not a woman, I don’t bring a bag (except that one night when the medics had to do their pyjama pub crawl thing…oh heck, all the guys had purses :p)
the best cam is that one, that you have always with you!!
by the way: symbian is still more functional than ios etc..
@djmuzi, the only problem with everything you’ve just written is that there have been plenty of independent tests by a whole variety of people from blogs, tech sites, camera enthusiasts, professional digital camera magazines etc. that show the N8 does indeed match or beat plenty of compact digital cameras out there.
So sure, go ahead with your iPhone or Android and your separate digital camera, meanwhile the sensible people will get better results and carry less weight and have less to worry about, just by using an N8
People generally want convergence these days. How many people do you know that actually carry their camera around with them, other than what they have on their phone?
The camera ability of a phone is only one of the selling points that people look for, and some give it a higher priority than others.
Me, I don’t care whether my processor is bigger than yours, whether my phone is ‘cooler’ than yours or whether my web-browser can load a page 0.5 seconds faster than yours. I want a good camera and an fm transmitter. This limits my choice of handset. Hopefully both these features will continue to be present on future phones.
Is the camera zoom called “True Zoom” ??? Must be, since Nokia DID promise us true zoom cameras and dual core Symbian phones in 2011….
Interesting…I might consider it, BUT i’m afraid that it will have a really kick-ass camera but then the rest of the phone will just be ‘last year stuff’, like how the N8 was.
And if you say Nokia is leaving all their best tech for WP7 phones, which is true of course, then why would they put their best cmaera on a symbian phone, which is planned to be phased out? They should have a WP7 Super cam phone! Your ‘rumor’ just doesn’t make much sense right now…
The N8 was not “last year stuff”, only perhaps in the minds of some fanboy trolls. It brought S^3 for the first time and a host of other nice things.
Where they have promised such a thing? Nowhere.
Now stop making things up.
what about the other symbian 3 phones?
any update to belle for symbian 3 like n8?
or there is just for phones with 1ghz cpu?