Nokia and T-Mobile USA to have an announcement next week, December 14
The Verge are reporting that T-Mobile and Nokia are to have an event next week, December 14th. Given the pink tiles, it seems Nokia are going to launch a Windows Phone with T-Mobile. Which Lumia? The Verge reckons it might be the Nokia 710, especially as that’s on Nokia USA’s page.
That’s a bit odd. So much for shock and awe with a Lumia 900 – or is it possible that’s still coming? At least with the Lumia 800 you had a very strong design set. With the 710 that appeals more on price (though it is also a very good looking phone).
The other two major networks, AT&T and Verizon have already been said to be bringing out some Nokia Windows Phones. This confirms previous interviews with Elop where he said discussions with carriers have gone very well. Carrier partnership is of utmost importance to Nokia in the US. If you can’t get your phones subsidized on the major networks, it’s really not going to get anywhere fast. With some support, like Orange in the UK and KPN in Netherlands, Lumia experiences in the 800 are performing very well (if you can call top of the chart and outselling iPhone 4S very well).
Thanks vetlozar Simeonov and Viipottaja for the tip!
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Nokia would be wise to release the 800, the 700 looks cheap comlared to it.
It is the 710 that’s launching on T-Mo.
Just check: http://www.wpcentral.com/t-mobile-nokia-lumia-710-confirmed-through-fcc-manual
T-mobiles bands are 1900 – Edge and 1700 – 3g. So unless Nokia can alter the antenna in some way in the Lumia then they will only work on Edge thus crippling the user experience.
710 is a pentaband phone so it supports T-Mobile hsdpa+ frequencies.
Wrong. It’s triband. They could make a quadband one, but Snapdragons don’t support pentaband.
It’s a no brainer to support AWS though. It’ll either be a 900/1700/2100 model or an 850/1700/1900 model.
This will most likely be the 710 since tmobile USA is known for picking cheaper phones out of all the phone providers. But then again, tmobile couldn’t get iphone this year so they might have something up their sleeves.
I think you are on the something.
If they can just get the Lumia 710 before Christmas, I’m sure they’ll settle for that.
I don’t know about cheap phones – they have some of the best android devices out of the 4 major providers here, and had 2 of the better Windows Phones when they launched (Dell venue pro/HD7).
They also have cheap phones, like the 5230.
While it would have been great and obviously preferable to launch to US with the 900 from the get go and FAST, it is fairly likely that the 900 plus LTE and Tango are not quite ready yet, and Nokia has deemed it better to go ahead with T-Mobile and the 710 and not wait for LTE & Tango.
T-Mobile’s line up of phones is generally not quite as high end as some other carriers (at least that seems to be the perception) and the 710 would fit that well.
As long as AT&T, Sprint, MS and Nokia all together launch a massive promo campaign when the 900 does come out, the downside of having launched the 710 with T-Mobile early may not be that large in the end.
Still, as said, 900 would have been better.
They could of course surprise everyone and launch the 800 too with T-Mo.
I look at this as Nokia going with a soft launch; Nokia already has a small presence on T-Mobile, so the Lumia 710, in a sense, is par for the course.
T-Mobile is the #4 network – small, with a shaky future. It simply doesn’t make sense, at least not to me, for Nokia to release the luxurious Lumia 800 on that network.
AT&T is WP’s biggest U.S. supporter in that they’ve always had at least 3 devices (they had 5 devices gen 1 devices running on the network) that they carried, and they currently have 3 2nd gen devices now. ATT is the 2nd largest carrier, and Nokia, with a premium WP device, will need to be on ATT to get the market penetration. Of course, Verizon, would be next as they are the largest, but Verizon is not big on WP support as evidenced by them carrying only 1 device.
7 days and counting! But if T-Mobile gets the Lumia 800, as beautiful as the device is, then No Thanks!
Agree and sort of what I was trying to say.
Although: are you saying that if T-Mobile gets the 710, you will say “yes, thanks!”
@Viipottala…:) Actually, I would say ‘No Thanks’ to any phone on T-Mobile. Not even the beauty of the Lumia 800 could make me go there!
I can’t explain in nice terms, but there is something about that ‘T-Mobile’….I’ve heard that the service is OK in my area, and I’ve read comments that they have great Customer Service, but I just can’t…Not even for a Nokia
It would be perfect if TMobile gets the Lumia 800. I’ll pay $50 a month for unlimited everything over ATT’s roughly $100 for the same things, thank you very much
I may have asked before (sorry, my memory is bad..) but are you a Finn?
No, I’m not a Finn, though my particular N9 was made in Finland
Ok.
Simo is a Finnish boy’s name and also the name of a small village in Finland. 
Interesting. It’s also a nickname in Egypt
Question for you on the $50 for everything…is that the one with the 100MB(at speeds of 4G)?! If so do you have unlimited after that just at 2G or 3G?!
Yes sir, it’s 4G speeds for the first 100MB. After that it’s unlimited at only 2G.
For me, the $70 non-contract plan has been well worth it… unlimited everything, first 5GB at 4G speed, then unlimited data at 2G speed.
Verizon won’t carry WP anymore unless it’s an LTE device. See who gets one out of the gate first. If it’s Nokia, that’s a huge score for them.
AT&t is bigger and has omre subscribers, but i hope (like with the Samsung galaxy S 2) than Nokia gets it’s ggod devices on as many providers as possible (including T-Mo).
T-Mobile have been first to launch on various platforms at times and have had a decent relationship it seems with Nokia (relative to the others). As A T-mo customer (who will not sign a contract with AT&T and is highly unlikely to at verizon) I sincerely hope that Nokia gets the 710, 800, 900 or whatever to T-Mobile as well as Sprint, verizon and AT&T.
Lets get back to getting your devices on more providers and ending this daft exclusivity kick going on in the US. Seriously, the rest of the world looks at the US cell phone networks and contracts and thinks we must be nuts. SO yes, for once, I hope this is a big launch for T-Mo, not just 710, but also 800/900. Thses devices will surely come to AT&T/Verizon/Sprint sometime with CDMA or LTE radios. No need to make t-mo wait for that.
I’m using N950 with T-Mobile, and didn’t need anything special for that – just plain GSM without a contract. I wonder if Nokia is going to produce any LTE Meego/Harmattan handsets?
very unlikely, at least in the immediate future as Meego is dead and the Harmattan project within Nokia (besides the support for N9) is tranforming more into a R&D project and Meltemi (the lower end Linux based platform they are reportedly working on).
Well, then I’ll wait for Samsung to make something out of Tizen.
I can’t believe people are hanging onto MeeGo when it’s what killed Maemo.
MS didn’t believe Linux could succeed as well. I doubt anyone is hanging on to Meego per se. Rather to Meego inherited projects, like Nemo/Mer for example, which is community driven. Companies driven one is Tizen, which is still a rather “dark horse”, since no details are known yet.
And honestly I don’t have much trust in companies, after Nokia, Intel and co. dropped Meego in favor of their shifting moods.
I have been using a Lumia 710. My first impression from pics was that is looks cheap. But well in hand I changed my mind.
I have to say that the 800 looks brilliant and especially I like like the touch “windows” buttons. In 710 they are “real” buttons and sometimes one just don’t have the power required to push a real button
do according to my source who works at tmobile, there is a phone in their system called Nokia Sword. This is most likely 710. This really makes sense unless nokia makes the 800 a tmobile exclusive for US
Doubtful the 800 will be on TMobile. They’d have to reproduce it with TMobile’s GMS band frequency. It’s currently only tuned for AT&T. Most likely scenario is the 800 lands at AT&T and the 710 goes to TMobile. The Ace/900 is anyone’s guess, but if I had to venture one now I’d say that lands at AT&T as well. But I also think it will be a pentaband device, so those wishing to use it on TMobile can purchase it unlocked, while AT&T users can buy it subsidized on contract.
The 900 won’t be pentaband.
Hmm, so would that have to be exclusively an AT&T device as well, considering they’d have to tune it to fit Europe’s 3G frequency (which AT&T is on in the U.S., but T-Mobile isn’t)?
If the 900 isn’t pentaband, Nokia would have to produce at least one other version of it for U.S. carriers (unless they seriously believe they can stoke the U.S. market through just AT&T and the meager 710 on TMobile). Perhaps one AT&T Ace and another for one of the CDMA companies.
The 710 was originally code named the Sabre, so that fits.
I have tmobile but I really hate them. They have a very bad terrible services. I will change to another company after my contract get end. Nokia should not go with tmobile.
I have tmobile using my N9 and i have no issues with them. Nokia should follow Samsung’s strategy by bringing their phones to every service provider regardless of size. A two month exclusivity should be the max.
Same here, using an N9 on TMobile and it’s been great. $50 gets you unlimited everything (only the first 100mb of data on 3G speeds though), while you’ll have to pay twice that amount for the same things on AT&T.
$60 ups your 3G limit to 2GB (again, with unlimited everything), and for $70 you get unlimited everything with the first 4GB of data at 3G speeds. And all without a contract. Can’t beat that.. AT&T’s prices are borderline criminal.
Correction, $70 gets you unlimited everything with 5*GB of 3G data, not 4GB (unlimited 2G speeds after that).
Hey, how did you get the n9 to work with Tmobile, does the internet/data plan work on it?What do you think about it?
The N9 works perfect on Tmobile (I assume you mean USA tmobile of course). I just took my sim card to the local Tmobile store and they cut it there to fit.
Stuck it in and everything works perfectly, plus no extra Tmobile crap on the phone. Don’t even need to tell Tmobile.
As aTom said, all I did was take it to my local T-Mobile store. The associate that helped me fell in love with it
. Anywho, I just asked to have my regular SIM replaced with a microsim. Stuck that in my N9 and voila… works to absolute perfection. Signal strength is solid, 3G band works well (in fact I only keep the device on 3G as opposed to GSM or dual mode), and I get unlimited data on a non-contract plan. Couldn’t as for much more really.
I will however have to switch over to AT&T for a month or so to test out my Lumia 800 when it arrives. I may send it back even if I like it more than the N9 however, simply because of how much I’d need to spend a month with friggin AT&T
Every carrier has both good and bad areas. You evidently live in a bad T-Mobile area.
This will definitely NOT be Lumia 900. The media coverage is not big enough for a flagship model. They will wait until CES. This will most likely be Lumia 710.
But they said it would be something exciting… : (
A Nokia Windows Phone with AWS IS exciting!
A good one would be, I agree.. Dying for a good Nokia phone in the US. Lumia 710 looks like one of those fake toys you buy kids to pretend they are on a real phone.
I disagree. It looks just as good as the 603, and a lot of others think the same as well. It’s no Lumia 800/N9 in terms of looks, but it’s not a cheap toy as you say either.
I see the 710 being a huge hit with females for some reason. They’ll love the customizable tile colors in the OS that they can match up with the removable back covers.
Exciting in that it’s something your average American mobile consumer.. i.e. a style-deficient app-centric geek that goes for big, ugly, rounded rectangles. A handset that actually looks halfway decent! *GASP*
Lumia 710 with T-mobile branding just passed FCCC. Pretty much confirms that it will be Lumia 710 unveiling.
http://thenokiablog.com/2011/12/07/tmobile-nokia-lumia-710-fcc/
I don’t think it’s good for nokia to bring a mediocre product to the US market before a flagship.
It’s kinda like hyundai, they built their rep on 20,000 dollar vehicles, then try to sell us a 50k luxury car, and nobody buys it.
Come on nokia, you want to be synonymous with greatness, not mediocrity.
Valid point. I think Nokia feels like they’re in a race against time though. Their priority seems to be getting devices out there as soon as possible. True flagships take longer to design and mass produce. If they waited for that, no Nokia WP devices will have even been released yet.
Sir,what is this, You have removed the Share option from the site. Plz do something. we all want to share the latest Nokia news with the World.
The event is held
on 12/14 = 12 mm thick , 1.4 GHz
on “Wed” = Windows
at “7PM” = 7 Phone Mango
The invitation even has seven tiles.
Oh, now I got it!
They are going to launch a Symbian phone.