So here’s Nokia Maps 3D…in iOS
We were absolutely astonished and so proud to see Nokia Maps 3D’s mind blowing photorealistic 3D maps. It was unlike anything we had seen before. We begged for it to appear in mobile devices. Did it? No.
Later we heard that the future was rather bleak given that Apple had gone and acquired C3 – the folks behind the 3D coolness of Nokia Maps 3D.
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/10/31/now-apple-owns-c3-the-folks-behind-nokia-maps-3d-what-happens-now/
Today, Apple announced iOS 6, from their ’200′ features includes a slap to both google and Nokia’s face. Apple as expected is going their own route with navigation and is doing it with some style. You would not expect anything less from them. Every time they enter something they have a purpose about them and they do deliver something just that little bit extra.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3076745/apple-maps-google-maps-replacement
:/ Three cheers again for Nokia. You see good ideas here first and then Apple and friends will see that to market and make it popular!
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Relax guys, You guys are furious. I understand the rage.
Like most here, am a nokia fan as well.
Lets just hope things get better.
Things are looking up guys.
But this just hurts.
I really want Nokia to succeed they are a very good company.
But first. Elop should be fired.
+1111111111111111111111111111
That’s an excellent idea . Fire Elop . Wander aimlessly on whether choosing meego harmattan or symbian or android . Become bankrupt in 2013 .
i’d bet there would have been more takers for meego/ symbian/ android on nokia, had it not been for elops famous burning platform memo. hell, wp7 itself would have sold better had elop not damned nokia’s own symbian handset as a liability! he’s done damage to his own brand (Nokia)at the single most inopportune moment of history of any company in its entire history perhaps. from 40% to 7% is incompetence of himalayan proportion.
meego had no apps .So,it had no future.
Symbian was not very user friendly. It is an ancient smartphone OS .
Android is all about specs race . Do you think that nokia would offer quad core phones with 720 p…. at a price of around $600. Nope, nokia phones would have cost around $100 to $200 more than other OEM.
So, the logical choice was to accept windows phone platform.If nokia had not made that announcement , then developers would have chosen no interest in windows platform .
Can you please explain the logic of killing all qt based platforms and the future Meltemi. Also, why do they introduce also 808, if WP is mature enough.
Horrible mistakes, horrible. I dont meang that Nokia should or should not take WP as primary platform. The execution, once again, has been miserable. Tells a lot about Elop being good in execution, but limited in strategic thinking.
Ok come on , how many good games,apps have been created using qt ?
Yes , Elop has done some bad decisions .So, u can blame him for that . But blaming Elop for all the misdirections that nokia took in the last 5 years is wrong…
agreed, nobody’s blaming elop for ALL the mistakes, but just ONE of his mistakes is costing nokia SO much!
had meego been given the same level of importance today, we’d have seen tons of apps by now – since symbian/ meego could have had the same apps – porting is easy. but no, the micro-bot kills symbian and he has not taken nokia anywhere significant with his wp7 dream.
Ummm, let’s see… 3DSlicer, Autodesk Maya & MotionBuilder, DAZ Studio, Eagle, Eric Python IDE, FreeCAD, FreeMat, Google Earth, Guitar Pro, Houdini (3D), ImageVis3D, KDE (+ most of the accompanying apps), Kingsoft Office, Launchy, LMMS, LuxRender, LyX, Marble, Mathematica, MeVisLab, Mixxx, MusE/MuseScore, MythTV, Nuke, Quantum GIS, RealFlow, Scribus, Skype, Stellarium, TeamSpeak, TortoiseHg, Transmission, Vidalia (suite), Oracle VM VirtualBox, VisIt, VLC Media Player… to name but a few. You can read some of the customer/developer stories on Qt @ http://qt.nokia.com/qt-in-use
You have no idea how poorer the world would be without Qt, especially the scientific and movie industry since they base most of their tools on Qt for rapid development and cross-platform portability.
Now, if you thought Qt on mobile – well, neither Trolltech nor Qt are responsible for Nokia’s mismanagement. Qt is a great toolkit and it won’t be going anywhere soon, whether Nokia survives or not.
Games are usually developed using cross platform libraries that are ported to each platform and operate at a layer under where Qt sits, closer to the core.
That’s why you see ports of Need For Speed on nearly every platform going. It’s not really running on Qt or Cocoa or whatever high level framework but on the game company’s library.
Apps on the other hand is where Qt comes in and IMHO as a cross platform development tool, Qt has failed simply because it’s not ‘cross platform’ to any platform that counts ie. Android and iOS – nothing else counts.
Who told you they killed that? Can you confirm this?
That’s an easy one to confirm.
Nokia have killed both Symbian, Maemo and MeeGo. We know this already.
Meltemi is apparently based on Qt ergo it’s future looks pretty bleak if Nokia aren’t going to support Qt on the other mobile platforms they have already.
Once again can you confirm this? What is this mysterious 808 thingy they keep promoting? Surely that’s a Windows OS and private for Elop only…
…but yah…rah rah bitch bitch…yawn….
A few weeks ago my wife got the ‘fruit’
She seems very satisfied,
Now am fiddling with the android she dropped.
What a crap phone and yet they sell more than our Nokia.
Something is wrong somewhere
apple is the mapping leader now, get iphone 6 instaed!
apple maps doesn’t even have offline capabilities . It will need plenty of time to catch up with google maps , which is still trying to catch up to nokia’s offerings
Nokia phone uses offline that’s why most of the telecom companies not tie up with Nokia. But offline feature helps more in country like India.
your comment makes no sense . I think that you are forgetting that people you 2g/3g to surf the net , check email and do many other tasks
there’s truth in both of your comments. Nokia maps is great for offline use. but for online use and satellite maps – at least in inda – google maps beats any other mapping system handsdown. navteq and apple maybe good in USA, but people have simply gotten used to google maps. apple is already just 20% of the market, the only people who buy apple en masse are its already captive users. most of the world prefers android for now at least. apple IOS has became exactly like mac. android the new windows – with its baggage and all of it – there’s negative too – but there’s a lot of positive too.
only nice thing is that the mobile landscape changes fast and having more platforms and no one having absolute control is great for us end users.
They didn’t announce it but I can’t imagine it’s too far off.
Maps on iOS 6 uses vectors instead of bitmap tiles, just like Nokia Maps so in theory all the map data could sit on an iPhone with no online requirements.
………….I really can’t believe a bunch of the shit I’m reading on here. Maybe because I’m new to the party (first Symbian in May 2011), but I can’t come down on Nokia for a lot of the details you are bashing on. I came from BB and Android to S^3. As rough as the UI was, I snickered about all the shit my fiance’s iPhone couldn’t do that my N8 can. Google Navigation SUCKS ASS compared to Nokia Maps, and that’s coming from someone living in California, where Google is based!
I will maintain that Vanilla Belle is better than Android 2.3.7 Gingerbread, what the majority of Androids are. And Ice Cream Sandwich doesn’t really add that much. What FP1 adds is a bigger jump and what FP2 could bring, that’s well worth waiting for.
Apple locks down their phones so much it’s ridiculous. They very fact that you have to jailbreak (which then voids your warranty) to get to use features that Apple disallowed is ludicrous. Finally, Apple has it’s own navigation, but it’ll probably take as long as Siri did to add features, areas, etc. All flash and no substance.
Yes, they have had a string of shit management, and they did play down advancements that became a mainstay, but they are certainly making up ground they once lost and are coming in on the right course.
I’m not just talking about being the best designed Windows Phones that are selling better than any before, even from HTC. I’m not just talking about them being THE camera manufacture or about them pushing that envelope in the mobile world. I’m not just talking about taking S40, basically on par with flash-based feature phone OS, and turning it into a potential flyweight multitasking Qt monster. It’s all this shit plus THEY ARE STILL INNOVATING.
Ever watch a Robert Rodrigez movie like Dusk ’til Dawn or Machette? For every niche legend, he’s gotta do a Spy Kids movie. It pays the bills. Lumia is Nokia’s Spy Kids. Asha is their Lava Girl & Shark Boy. 808 Pure View is their Machette. You could apply Takashi Miike too.
Sorry, I’m too busy covering myself in ash, and pulling my hair, to hear you.
Nah, you are right. Although it sucks that Nokia no longer has this advantage over iPhone, Google was always the bigger threat and they already have their mapping service ( and for most people, one is as good as the other, especially if they haven’t tried them yet ). I hope Nokia releases something safe, and something mindblowing with WP8 ( meaning 2 devices ) in Nokia World, but I’m not holding my breath.
Here’s hoping for Meltemi products as well.
Maybe they’re selling windows phones better than before and better than HTC.
But they’re not selling smartphones better than anyone. Sales are lowest in Nokia History.
i can see next iphone selling like hot cake again
iphone 4s owners cannot resist temptation! they will upgrade for SURE!
as if google’s going to sit back and relax! iphone’s heydays of innovation are long gone. they are busy copying from android and others of late! apple never innovated big time in the first place – right from the grid of icons till date.
relax guys. Nokia Maps 3D is just another burning platform and we have to jump off immediately
Why ppl mad, Apple reinvents better what others invented. They should change their motto. Well i am surprised that even after buying C3 they are using TomTom mapping.
Honestly i thought they would comeup with their own maps. Well first IMO, Nokia would have signed a agreement not to use the maps which C3 produced for them or share them with any other company. Even after buying C3 they have start from scratch. tell me if i am wrong. C3 are just a 3d mapping company.
With Apple ppl must know that nothing comes free IMO there will be no free navigation for the users unless there is a paid monthly subscription which will be announced when iphone 5 will be released.
Nokia and MS has a upper hand with the new OS. It takes lot of courage to make a change in Life, and smartphones are too integrated in to peoples life to make quick changes. people hate changes even if they know there is better OS and mobile out there they tend to stick with known OS. With all the people i spoke to people who changed to Lumia range they are very happy with the OS and mobile.
Its just the matter of time when Apple will run out of ideas and they will follow rather than leading. WM8 and windows 8 has very refreshed UI and I think they will be leaders soon.
Apple’s mapping is sourced from Open Street Maps not TomTom btw.
Get your facts right dude
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-12/tomtom-jumps-on-agreement-with-apple-over-global-maps
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-tomtom-ios-6-maps/
They’re still using OSM but I wasn’t aware they’d added TomTom routing.
It’s still unclear which bits are from TomTom and which are OSM.
Well, the ~best~ thing is, you can’t even be surprised by that. I mean, it’s the exact same thing crapple’s been doing since the first iphone. Who needs apps? Who needs 3G? Who needs a good camera? Who needs GPS? …list goes on and on.
And Nokia, they’ve been sitting back doing nothing. Or actually doing something: messing everything up. Cue the 5800/N97.
Meh.
What did anybody expect, though? Location is a major focal point of current and future competition and was always bound to be a hotly contested area. Apple and Google and everybody who wants to be somebody in mobile needs to be active in this area.
Sure, Nokia got a headstart in many ways, but just because others are catching up does not turn this into a weakness for Nokia. I think location is the least of our worries for Nokia, I’m sure they have plenty of innivation (and 3D things) cooking in their location labs.
What they need to do is excel in other areas as well. Nokia needs to bring the whole package. I think with Lumia they can, but will they execute well enough? Time will tell.
Oh course current iOS users will upgrade. They can’t be reasoned with. How can they afford popping down $600-$900 every other time and wait in line for days to do so.
Tom Tom mapping. Isn’t that going to require additional service charge? Like when AT&T tried charging $10-20 a month for nav on gps equipped phones for Navigator? I thought the bullshit would end when Steve Jobs was 6 feet under. Selling ice cubes to Eskimos. And Eskimos are still buying.
“Selling ice cubes to Eskimos. And Eskimos are still buying.”
ROTFL. good one
It’s classical issue Nokia vs Apple
Apple – half of these two hundred features you could see in other systems, but these are cool, better and every single feature deserves mention and it will soon land in our cool products!
Nokia
N9 – this mobile brings a lot of new unique features but we don’t want to talk about these features, because it is mistake to release it, it’s dead, you should not buy it… even if a lot of people buys it, we don’t care
808 – this phone has one great feature but you know, it uses some system based on Symbiwhat, it’s dead, you should not buy it as it’s also dead… We promise you lightweight version of PureView next year probably, to wait for other companies to start shipping it…
Belle devices – we have a new system! Belle it’s called but please, do not buy it, it has very nice features but we don’t want to talk about them again…
WP75 devices – wow, this is cool phone, we do not know much about it, yeah, there are probably maps, not finished… and we don’t know if the system is dead or not but buy it… oh, you want to buy it? we do not ship this phone to your region, yep, we promised Lumia 900 to be available two months ago, but… Yeah, we know, your market has 50%+ for Nokia (I would be in Czech Republic it’s still true) but buy Samsung SIII (it’s already available here, you can buy it and I guess soon it’s going to be that 50%+ brand here).
So Nokia do everything they can do to not market theirs phones, to not sell any device…
rAmen!
Yeah, +1
All the same mistakes again and again. I just wonder, when Nokia finally gets a sane management? So many absolutely stupid mistakes is done…
Customers want new devices, time really matters!!!
I wonder if a phone is announced in Feb, and I still can’t get it in the shop in Jun. Is this still a new device?
It’s all about Symbian losing market share since 2009. There may be some nice features in Belle but it’s too far behind the competition. Now add the Symbian’s wrecked reputation.
The N9 was all about unique features. Well, some unique features. No proof those were better than the competition. No modern features and no application support. Just some hype about the UI and nothing else.
The 808 has a great camera but too many people hope they would ship it without the Symbian. The N97 destroyed Symbian’s reputation and some people even hate it because of that. Now add all the hype there has been about the PureView. Unfortunately it can’t live up to the hype. That’s not going to turn into additional sales.
Let’s hope Nokia brings the the PureView effect to the Windows Phone.
Yeah… so iOS finally got round to offering navigation.
And this means Nokia is doomed because…? You know, since Android has been offering the same thing for a number of years?
Perspective. Let’s get some.
personal attacks not welcome here
personal attacks not welcome here
Check this out. WPCentral says Nokia Maps WILL be the default mapping app for ALL WP phones come WP8 and that it should be quite good.
http://www.wpcentral.com/apple-strikes-out-ios-6-or-how-windows-phone-8-will-be-more-impressive
They have some juicy info on other WP8 features in that too (e.g. Skype integration)
Ps. Jay, the new website design is kind f-ed up still. In IE front page stories don’t line up. On my Lumia 900 comments show up ridiculously narrow after a couple of replies to a comment. Seems I cannot post tips anymore either (unless you are now reviewing all tips before they show up on screen).
Hi.
Tips section now has an additional form box for those who want to send the tip but don’t want to use email or make it public.
You can still leave the tips in the comments the usual way, it seems however you’ve inserted your tip into the additional contacts form box.
Sorry about the layout, the new theme dynamically wraps around displays with less pixels into one column. Supposedly it was to make it easier for mobile so less left/right scrolling :/
What resolution is the monitor at? What version of I.E.?
I’ll have a look at the tips section again and try one more time.
IE7 at work (like now) and IE9 (IIRC) at home. Both have the same problem.
Is there a mobile version I could try on my Lumia?
oh and 1920 * 1080 here at work. Can’t recall my home laptop reso.
It is so sad to read again and again that Nokia repeats again and again the same mistakes…
Microsoft images used in Maps for iOS 6:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57451706-233/microsoft-images-used-in-maps-for-ios-6/
Maybe Apple and Microsoft are bigger partners than some of you think.
Microsoft images used in Maps for iOS 6:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57451706-233/microsoft-images-used-in-maps-for-ios-6/
Maybe Apple and Microsoft are bigger partners than some of you think.
http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2012/06/13/apple-maps-will-kill-you?
Good turn-by-turn, huh?
And… it turned out to be a mess in iOS 6 LOL!
Wonder why, because it is already that good in Nokia’s version.