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Weekend Watch: Nokia Lumia 920 vs iPhone 5 video

| November 10, 2012 | 19 Replies

Colour me slightly over saturated. Apparently in this video, the Nokia Lumia 920 (with obviously more stabilised video, wider angle) appears to have much more saturated colours than the king of over saturation on the right, the iPhone.

Nokia always used to go with more natural colours, which were good for purists but some complained Nokia just didn’t get that users wanted punchy, popping, vibrant colours. Well I haven’t used the 920 camera myself or seen sufficient camera tests, but I have on occasion noticed comments of over saturation. Not necessarily always a bad thing if done right. (I always hoped for a simple setting option that would remain regardless of camera setting unless you changed it – supercolour/oversaturated vs natural). Or has the iPhone just toned down colours?

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It’s currently autumn in the UK so the warmer tones sort of suit the video better. Everyone has their own personal preference around these things.

 

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  • eli

    Nokia really does have the best video of any smartphone.- excellent audio quality and the sharpest output. Its a shame reviewers dont heavily weight that quality.

    • spencer1978

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      Nokia´s feature-phone division is doing well, because of Asha phones.
      Nokia has not lost about 1 billion dollars a quarter like the media says, because Nokia has 5 business parts and 4 of them are profitable. Therefore, the exact number is much much smaller.
      Nokia´s loss is only 17 million euros any more (compared to Reuters´s consensus 277 million and Nokia´s last two previous quarters about 290 million each), this was much better.
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      NAVTEQ was also profitable, NAVTEQ´s number might be better in 4Q, because of the deals with Amazon, Yahoo, Oracle and many car-companies.
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      Wireless charging
      Super sensitive and bright screen that can be used with gloves or finger nails
      Premium GPS that can be used also offline
      Augmented reality City Lens
      Free music with no advertisements
      Lumia 920 also beats iPhone 5 with NFC
      Lumia 920 does not only have a great low-light camera, but also has exceptional audio recording quality due to the 3 HAAC Rich-recording microphones.
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      Nokia has not lost about 1 billion dollars a quarter as the media says, because its other parts of business are profitable (while 1Q´s and 2Q´s total loss 290 million each, 3Q´s total loss only 17 million euros any more). Therefore, 3.6 billion euros net cash should be enough for Nokia´s transition period before WP8 phones take off. There is still enough room for a third ecosystem in this world, beside emerging markets Europe has adopted WP phones in a very encouraging way (for example Italy has already over 10% market share for WP phones, considering the Lumia debut has not been a year yet, since last November only. WP OS has already grown a lot faster compared to iOS and Android in their first quarters). Lumias were sold 9,9 million units under a year. The number is small compared to Iphones and Androids sold today, but it is not a bad start. It is more fair to compare the numbers among the 3 in their first year.
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      About Nokia´s buy out: Motorola´s patents were worth about 5.5 billion, if some company bids for Nokia´s patents and Microsoft still does not acquire Nokia, Nokia will be sold in parts. Nokia has 5 business parts, therefore patent portfolio is only 1 out of 5. Now, you can count yourself how much are Nokia Siemens Networks, NAVTEQ, and feature-phone division worth.
      I know US is very important market, because Wall Street and US consumer trend give directions to market momentum around the world, still you can not neglect the power of BRIC and MIST these days.
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      Morningstar (a very big analyzing firm in investings) about Nokia:
      Share price assumption at this moment: 2.40 euro
      Best scenario (if WP8 phones go well): the stock price will go to about 7.70 euro per share)
      Worst scenario: no bankruptcy, because Nokia would be sold in parts before that.
      Estimated price for this: intellectual properties over 1 euro per share; other business parts (smartphones, featurephones, NSN) at least over 1.50 euro per share.
      And NAVTEQ´s price not included (Nokia bought NAVTEQ with 5.7 billion euro). All in all, even in this case, Nokia share price would be at least over 2.50 euro, excluded NAVTEQ.
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      If you want to buy, you can ask your own bank).

      Nokia also announced it is hiring more employees to work in Chicago (where NAVTEQ is). Who says Nokia is going bankrupt? Think twice before saying that!
      Nokia also bought Scaladon, the imaging technology firm in Sweden. Therefore, apart from NAVTEQ and NSN, Nokia is no doubt going big with PureView imaging technology. Some authors compare Nokia to Eastman-Kodak, I think it is almost the opposite.
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      One of the reasons why Nokia is one of the most defensive stocks right now during bear markets is that Nokia has been already shorted massively about 19% of its total shares (while Apple only about 0.5%, Samsung over 2%, and other telecom companies about 4% in general).
      By the way, NAVTEQ just reported it is making navigators into 4 out of 5 cars (80%).
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      When also Nokia´s Devices & Services division is profitable as well, will you ever have a chance to buy NOK stock this cheap again? The answer might be: NEVER.
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      Considering now the total loss is about 17 million euros, it got much better from the 290 million (2 prior quarters each) loss.
      3.6 billion euros net cash should be enough for Nokia´s transitional period before WP8 phones take off.
      Nokia is also getting more cash from convertible bonds and selling its HQ and other non-core assets.
      Nokia is a big chance and good bargain at 3 dollars, because Nokia Siemens Networks has grown so strongly and profitable that Nokia and Siemens have decided to make it independent in these couple of years. That means Nokia shareholders will have two companies´ shares in their hands.This is a bonus.
      The conclusion is Nokia is for long-term and medium-term investing not for short term. Just think about this, even when Apple and Google reach 1000 dollars, that is not even doubling, but in the long term Nokia has the opportunity to triple or even more. Caleb Evans

      • Edgar Mkrtchyan

        +1

      • abs

        Proud Nokia fan!

      • flava

        Please, stop your lenghty copy-paste comment.

  • http://chriswwwright.wordpress.com Chris W

    The Lumia 920 looks excellent, better than the iPhone5. Well done Nokia!
    Am curious as I have seen no videos comparing the Lumia web browser to any other device. Perhaps the reviewers don’t like doing videos which make ios and Android look bad compared to Nokia?
    #JustSaying

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  • Joker

    Your over saturated argument doesn’t stand. At least with this videos and images. Overly saturated is in relation to the real scene color from human eyes. Not in relation to some subjective imagination. I am not in the scene of course, but there is no way anywhere on this planet any trees and surroundings should look like what is in ishit’s video. On other hand, the left one (920) one looks real to me.

  • anonymous

    over saturation becomes a problem when there is man in the subjector it is the main object since they will look darker…

  • Kan

    There is no control to show us what the realistic image / saturation should be. Naturally if we see two images and one is more vibrant than the other we will assume its over saturated but in fact it could be more realistic than the undersaturated image.

    You should always compare against a control image not againt each other.

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  • Tetlee

    Not a fan of iphone but I’m surprised anyone can defend the video examples of the 920 here.

    I mean watch the actual video footage, the 920 on the left looks almost as though it has one of those clear yellow wrappers from a Quality Street sweet over the lense, completely un-natural.

    Photos from the 920 look pretty good, especially low poor light static images, but for me this video looks very poor and I wouldn’t be at all happy with it. It’s all subjective though, each to their own taste.

    • aleci

      If Nokia over saturate its colors its fine. But if with the iPhone its called so unrealistic.

      And it works bec. its autumn. O_O

  • anon2

    Funny how reviewers scorned the 920’s camera for producing colors that were too soft/natural, yet the minute saturation is increased it suddenly becomes a bad thing. These “flip-flop” men/women are absolutely pathetic.

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  • Quang

    I am a Nokia Fan, I love my Nokia offline map. BUT I am not a fanboy, no way L920 is far better than iphone 5. stop calling your favorite features as an important features like wireless charging or super sensitive key touching..To me L920 only has better camera for low light, iphone 5 has better camera for normal light that is it. the rest is clear win for Iphone5 even the margin is pretty small. If you cannot give Nokia constructive feedback they cannot build a better product.

    • Harley

      Saying your a Nokia fan from the start hardly hides you are an Apple fan. haha, the Colors on the Lumia are saturated, but without the real scene in front of you, it looks a hell of a lot better. And the Lumia video is a lot sharper and clearer, which can be seen counting pixels, and is fact, not opinion

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