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Nokia Windows Phone coming 2011 says Russian Retailer; ST Ericsson U8500 on board.

| May 20, 2011 | 41 Replies

Forbes (via Engadget) are reporting that Nokia Windows Phones are coming withST-Ericsson U8500. If that rings a bell, that’s because we’ve been eyeing it up for a while. They’ve demoed this running MeeGo and Symbian before, most recently it caused some fuss after the MeeGo tablet turned out to be the reference design board.

If that rings an even bigger Bell, it’s because, well, wasn’t this story posted in February?

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/02/17/nokia-to-use-st-ericsson-u8500-chipset-in-their-windows-phone-handsets/

Well this time, STMicroelectronics chief seems to be confirming (not just from Reuters). Another thing mentioned is that joint venture, ST-Ericsson would be 1 of 2 chip suppliers for Nokia’s upcoming Windows Phone. The other being Qualcomm most likely. Also of note is that they’ll also be ‘important suppliers’ for Nokia’s Windows Phone 8 phones. (Hold your horses, we haven’t got 7.5 yet :p)

Let’s wait and see how Windows Phone performs with Nokia class logistics and world wide distribution.

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ST-Ericsson U8500: ARM Cortex A9, Dual Core 1.2GHz, Mali 400 notes:

  • Full HD 1080p camcorder, multiple codecs supported
    (H264 HP, VC-1, MPEG-4)
  • High-resolution, touchscreen display support up to XGA (1024*768)
  • Simultaneous dual display support
  • High performance 3D graphics, support for
    OpenVG 1.1 and OpenGL ES 2.0
  • Dual camera support with Integrated ISP 18 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel
  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS enabled platform
  • Built-in USB 2.0, HDMI out
  • Support for multiple operating systems, Symbian, Android
    and Linux-based platforms
  • Optional support for mobile TV standards

Technology

  • Highly efficient, low-power ARM dual Cortex™- A9 processor
  • Dual multimedia DSP for low-power, flexible media processing
  • High-bandwidth LP-DDR2 interface
  • ARM  Mali™ 400 GPU and NEON®CPU extensions
  • State-of-the-art HSPA (High-Speed Packet Access) Release 7 modem
  • Unique audio architecture with a wide range of audio codecs supported
  • Advanced power saving architecture enabling class-leading audio and video playback times

Whilst we’re on point of Nokia Windows Phone, you may have seen this already but they’re due before 2011 says Russian mobile retail chain.

“We expect the emergence of Nokia smartphone running Windows Mobile on our network at the end of 2011″

Nokia are apparently betting on the second largest independent retailers in Russia. For the remainder of the year, are working on increasing the number of Nokia shop-in-shops( a Nokia booth inside a store)

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Category: Nokia, Windows Phone

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  • RVM

    Great! I prefer ST-Ericsson over Quallcomm, since it’s european company.

    • masood

      lol,lol,lol,lol,lol,lol,lol, russian retailer! when people are desbrate ,they”ll BELEAVE ANY BODY! what a joke!! ther a retailer in glasgow (scotland) says its coming out on the 27th july 2011 lol. beat that u russians! lol lol lol

      • Alex Beep

        Funk ypu, dude!

      • dr_zorg

        Before you start posting in English, it’s proper to learn spelling and punctuation.

        • masood

          lol…………..

  • Matias

    Let’s hope we’ll see U8500 in the first batch of Nokia WP devices. That would really make an impact and no one could complain about Nokia hardware being out of date (well, of course some people think that dual-core is already out of date since quad-core CPUs are in the roadmaps of some HW vendors…)

    U8500 on N9/950 would be awesome, too :P

    • http://www.fullfrontalobscurity.co.uk zonk0r

      yes indeed, Tegra 3 sports a quad core chip and is due at the end of the year…

      you can imagine sammy wont be far behind after showing us their dual core tegra thumping exynos chips as well

  • person

    It’ll be great hardware but still running an absolute dog of an OS. Give me Symbian any day. Apparently Win8 will be a joint PC and mobile OS so that will be more bloated bad design. All hail our new Microsoft overlords!

    • http://www.fullfrontalobscurity.co.uk zonk0r

      im not sure i believe this unless they layer Metro UI over the top of win8?

    • Rant

      Ninja, now you need to get your facts straight. Windows 8 is meant as a desktop and Tablet OS. Not as a phone OS.

      And with increasing power in chipsets a bloated design matters less and less. Eventhough it shouldn’t be like that.

      • Ninja

        Wrong again my dear Rant, wrong again… :)

        Windows 8 is mostly definitely an OS for phones as well as desktops and tablets, the same OS across all 3 platforms.

        A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed this recently (I can’t find the link unfortunately) and it was confirmed by the Intel CEO noless: http://tinyurl.com/66sw8tj

        Intel confirmed again (though MS are trying to keep a lid on it): http://wwwery.com/13509-microsoft-windows-8-for-mobile.html

        and various other rumours suggest Windows Phone ends with the current WinPho 7 (and other rumours about them ending the WinCE core support this).

        Which means it will be horribly bloated and not suitable for purpose for phones unless they have shedloads of CPU power (and thus crap battery life) which will give people the experience of early Android devices – i.e. shit.

        So, by moving to Windows, as I keep saying, Nokia phones will have less power in real terms (i.e. perceived by the user), worse battery life, and more costly, and all that power we were going to see transferring down into the low end with the ultra-efficient low cost Symbian phones for the billions of low-end mobile users in the world will now no longer happen which is quite frankly a moral outrage and Nokia deserve to lose out big time for it.

        And by the way Rant, all you have to do is Google for 10 seconds and you would see that you were about to say something wrong. It seems now I am proving you wrong every post you make. It doesn’t have to be like this. You are enthusiastic just please check your facts!

        • Rant

          All the spokesperson in the world can say what you say in the most elaborate way. But A desktop OS like the next gen Windows 8 is in no way going to run on phone hardware. Maybe a cutdown version like you have for netbooks of Windows 7 but that’s utterly useless IMHO.

          This is rumourmill material that is seeing before believing. Investing in WP7 like they do now with Mango makes no sense to later say, oh heck, that will be a dead end and we’ll continue with something else.

          Although it would suit Nokia perfectly. :P

          • Viipottaja

            Even if they would put Windows 8 _OS_ on phones, the WP UI could well be maintained.

            • Rant

              I might believe that they use some parts of Windows 8 kernel to go into the phone part, but in no way do I believe that MS will use the full Windows 8 desktop stuff for a phone.

              So far most claims came from 3rd parties unlike MS themselves. Intel being a major claimer that it will happen. Yet Intel also claimed there would be no legacy support on ARM Windows (logic; protect their own chip sales like that)

              Anywho, Intel’s claim was done off as misinformation by MS that said legacy support would be there.

              What I assume is that we will continue to see WP with it’s own phone type OS but that a little above that (tablets etc.) will use the full on Windows 8 experience. Or MS is lying and ARM support will break legacy support and giving them the ability to cut down on ARM compatible kernel’s.

              Besides; Isn’t is so that ARM supports less insctruction sets as opposed to X86?

        • DaveX

          You need to take 10 seconds more and read what you post. Also there’s no need for smart @ss comments like: “…It seems now I am proving you wrong every post you make… You are enthusiastic just please check your facts!”

          This one is from your posted link:

          “Microsoft was quick to react to Intel’s statements, saying: “Intel’s statements during Intel Investor Meeting about Microsoft’s plans for the next version of Windows were factually inaccurate and unfortunately misleading.””

          So, in a few words, YOU ARE A WRONG SMART @SS.

          Sorry, but I can’t stand that attitude, specially when you’re obviously wrong.

          Peace

          • Rant

            That made me LOL, thanks man!

    • Hypnopottamus

      I worry for you. What are you going to do when Symbian is totally phased out? The N8 could possibly the last flagship Symhian device. 2012 is just around the corner. Hopefully by then Symbian will be caught up to 2010 standards. That way they can at least be consistent w/ being 2 years behind the curve.

    • Hypnopottamus

      I worry for you. What are you going to do when Symbian is totally phased out? The N8 could possibly the last flagship Symbian device. 2012 is just around the corner. Hopefully by then Symbian will be caught up to 2010 standards. That way they can at least be consistent w/ being 2 years behind the curve.

  • karam

    it would be so jaw-dropping if wp came with U8500 while symbian phones are still using arm11

  • Paul Grenfell

    Not particularly interested.. More interested in N9 Meego..

  • Cod3rror

    That can’t be true, Microsoft stipulates strict Qualcomm chopset use.

    • Rant

      Nokia supposedly got a better deal than others, allowing them more freedom. The ST8500 board has probably already been tested unlike Qualcomm units.

      Elop just buddied up with Ballmer in a Sauna session (ewh) and got clearance to launch a device with ST8500 so that it was possible to make a launch device for WP7.5 ie. Mango.

      Considering both Ericsson and Qualcomm are ARM based, why wouldn’t it be possible if the rules were bent?

    • Ninja

      > That can’t be true, Microsoft stipulates strict Qualcomm chopset use.

      Clearly you guys are not following the news that Windows Phone ends with the current version, then we have Windows 8 (the full OS) across all devices – PC, tablet and phone, and that Windows 8 runs on ARM.

      Don’t believe me? Start googling. It’s all there. Or check my reply to Rant’s comment above.

      • Rant

        And what is Qualcomm exactly mr. Smith? Indeed an ARM design. So Windows 8 that one OS as you say will run just fine on a dual-core Scorpion (qualcomm) chipset as it would on Tegra2, ST U8500, Orion/Exynos etc.

  • masood

    lol,lol,lol,lol,lol,lol,lol, russian retailer! when people are desbrate ,they”ll BELEAVE ANY BODY! what a joke!! ther a retailer in glasgow (scotland) says its coming out on the 27th july 2011 lol. beat that u russians! lol lol lol

    • Jay Montano

      Did the retailer in Glasgow tell you or someone the equivalent of an Exec at CarphoneWarehouse that had a meeting with Elop?
      It appears this wasn’t just some front line staff at some random phone shop in Russia

      • jim

        Could come from Elop himself and it would still be irrelevant. Think people have LONG since stopped listening to dates regarding Nokia on the interwebz. At least they should have..

  • Paul Grenfell

    Got a link Masood?

  • Yemi

    The ST Ericsson dual core chip is rumored to be in both N9 or N950 with the Mali 400 MP.

  • McMan

    will it be possible to run(to port) android on Nokia WP7 hardware???
    In ST-Ericsson U8500 specs it says:”Support for multiple operating systems, Symbian, Android
    and Linux-based platforms”

  • Marc

    Can anyone tell me how this st ericsson compares againts the galaxy s2? and dont gs2 also has have an mali400gpu? if so then tegra owns this seeing gsm arena had a post about it beating the gs2 is gaming and graphics due to the better gpu. Can anyone explain

  • Marc

    Can anyone tell me how this st ericsson compares againts the galaxy s2? and dont gs2 also have an mali400gpu? if so then tegra owns this seeing gsm arena had a post about it beating the gs2 in gaming and graphics due to the better gpu. Can anyone explain

  • deep space bar

    by the time it launched meego n9/n950 will be in high demand and will be in a higher global marketshare then windows phone which no one cares about lol 1.9million unites globall lol even android had more when it first came out…i hope nokia drops wp after elop leaves

    • Eddy

      get off the bong hippy

  • aa123

    Wow, Nokia is going to destroy everything on its way to championship.

  • hyper

    no interests since its running windows.
    Just give me N9 with meego with that specs

  • Hypnopottamus

    These phones LOOK hot. Hopefully they can perform the way a modern smartphone should (unlike that festering steaming pile of fail called Symbian). The problem is that there is little to no ecosystem for a Windows Mobile device to thrive on. They do have openings, though.

    For the Business/Enterprise user, the ability to connect with Outlook, Exchange mail, and/or utilize Microsoft Office is a strong point.

    For the multimedia/entertainment user, the ability to utilize and sync w/ XBox is definitely a plus.

    We’ll see if these are good enough reasons (along with a seamless User Experience) for anyone (Symbian/Android/iOS) to switch to Windows mobile.

    • crisscross

      XBOX? You americans still use that?

      • Andre

        Well the Xbox happens to be the best selling game console the last 11 out of 12 months so yes, quite a few people, including Americans still use that “thing” :-/

      • Hypnopottamus

        Face it, on a mobile phone, having the ability to play these type of games is a pretty good selling point. Look what Nokia has right now. They only get games ported from other platforms. Every major developer still developing for Symbian always say that their games will go to iOS, then Android, and in last place, Symbian. There is always a lag until Symbian gets these newer games.

        Will this alone help get more multi-media/entertainment users to come over to Windows mobile? Tough to say. Microsoft (and Nokia) have an uphill battle.

  • James

    I think it was announced that the first Nokia WP7/8 phones will use qualcomm chips.

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