Forbes: Judging From Apple’s Apology, Maps Matter and Nokia Has Maps That Work
Yesterday, Ali showed how Apple CEO, Tim Cook was recommending Nokia Maps, as well as a funny cartoon starring Cook and a comparison against the Nokia/Apple solutions.
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/09/28/showdown-apple-maps-vs-nokia-maps/
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/09/28/tim-cook-suggests-using-nokia-maps-as-an-alternative-to-ios-maps
Whilst we know how excellent Nokia Maps is, unfortunately, it still doesn’t have the same recognition as Google in the mapping space. It’s nice to see that the a comment by the CEO of the World’s Best Marketeers is getting Nokia Maps Noticed.
Judging From Apple’s Apology, Maps Matter and Nokia Has Maps That Work - Forbes
Tim Cook: ‘So sorry for Apple’s crap maps app – try Bing or Nokia’ – The Register
There’s more from the various sources blogging verbatim Tim Cook’s suggestion to use Nokia Maps. In the Forbes article, location based services is seen as an important advantage and they note that Nokia’s new Lumia phones are completed with excellent mapping functions from Nokia’s subsidiary, NAVTEQ.
On a side note, isn’t it a bit strange how C3′s 3D maps that Nokia used – which many of us were gutted about to hear it was brought first to mobile by Apple, is being used so heavily to Apple’s detriment? OK there are many things wrong with Apple’s maps.
- Incorrect data for one, telling you things are something that they are not, like major landmarks.
- Insufficient data, no where near the level of mapping information as say, Nokia’s maps. Not just streets missing but whole cities.
- 3D Mesh data looking wrong. We knew based on the limitations of how the mesh 3D works that it would not be perfect. Some things look amazing but some things are not quite right. I don’t know if it’s due to the scrutiny of those watching Apple (fans or the non fans) or if Nokia had just taken more time to implement more correct 3D (and thus, avoid it where it was not quite right)
Source: Forbes
Category: Nokia
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Wow blocking Nokia maps plugin… That’s low.
Well, Nokia could register their app with Apple… Evidently they did not.
wow, i need permission from apple to install something on my property. cool.
it’s a pc, not a damn phone, you should be able to do whatever you want
Actually any company who’s serious about security would require apps to sign with them , Microsoft has signed drivers, Nokia has signed Symbian Apps…
Fact is if you upgraded to the mountain lion,then this new security precaution might have been newly implemented without you noticing it up until now.
Still Apple wasn’t always nice with 3rd party apps , it wasn’t until IOS that good apps got developed.
i’m not talking about mobile os, but the full fledged os on the computer. you should have total freedom on that one. the fact that they force you to install only registered apps is abusive. it makes you pay for everything and they have a percentage from that sale. it’s like a scam.
but on the mobile apps it makes sense, because of security reasons and performance
It’s a setting. Enable side loading. Done.
Go to System Preferences > Security > Select the checkbox where it says “Allow apps from anywhere”
or
As someone else said, right click on app and select open and it will be fine.
I was going to say the same thing. The settings dialog looks like this:
http://ktechblog.com/wp-content/uploads/gatekeeper555.jpeg
It’s the same on Windows.
Applications on both Windows and Mac OSX require signing by the developer so that the OS can confirm the validity of the application.
On Windows each application has to have an XML manifest file or you’ll get the UAC popup asking you for permission to launch the application every time you launch it. If the application is old and hasn’t been updated then that’s quite common.
On Mac OSX 10.8, there is a setting in System Preferences which let’s you choose between three settings that either restrict application launching to only apps from the Mac App Store, the store + identified developers (i.e.. Signed apps only) and lastly from anywhere.
For some reason, Nokia have failed to sign their maps plugin. The fault here is with Nokia, not Apple.
Actually, that’s how every software works that isn’t downloaded through App Store (in OSX Mountain Lion). You’ll be able to install it by right clicking on the installer, and simply opening it via that menu. All non-Apple approved software can be installed by this.
Not true. If the application is signed by the developer, you can download it from anywhere and install it provided you’ve set that level of security in System Prefs.
They’re blocking any app that tries to run on the Mac and has not been signed.
Which is fine. But it requires all developers to sign their content.
You can always change settings to install unsigned content with developer mode or something (don’t remember the place/setting) and install it anyway.
Think about it this way: the new Mac OS versions (Lion and up if I’m not mistaken) requires apps to be signed the same way Symbian S60v3 and up requires certificates to install apps.
I think Elop needs to be credit more than he deserves, he is right in more ways than one. Elop did bring out the most amazing innovation tech out of the Nokia House to consumers very quickly. Also he let N808PV to come out even if he is not a fan of symbian. Nokia strength in innovation and maps are strong points, Elop brought out very quickly to WP platform.
Nokia`s marketing should focus on 2 key departments. Maps & Innovation features including exclusive apps.
Hope the PR and Marketing team are up to the task as the engineers have done their job, now its all down to the marketing dept if a product fails or succeed.
I think Nokia should port Maps for iOS to demonstrate their ability as well as collect more data. Since it’s still behind of Google in terms of POIs.
the comments on the forbes article are brilliant. isheep at their finest
I’d wish Nokia communicated something about the Navteq True, which was demoed in 2010.
People have seen Navteq cars driving around in cities with the LIDAR equipment on top even as recently as this summer. People have also been confusing them as Google cars (some Navteq cars apparently have been unmarked).
I’d love to hear how this effort translates to Nokia Maps 3D, Apple’s acquisition of C3 or other future plans.
Yes, I’ve been waiting for some sort of an update about this since Nokia World 2010.
Re: NokiaMapsPlugin_OSX.pkg Wow guys, you’re killing me here. Running a high tech blog and not knowing how to go to System Preferences and check your security settings? THAT’s low.
+1 …
You have to go under some settings menu to change security prefrences on a Mac to install a simple plugin? Lol, what a stupid menial task. How about just right click and run as administrator?
Apple just becomes more and more obvious that it’s ran by dickheads for dickheads. $2400 for a computer in pretty packaging vs. the same hardware in a PC for less than half the price is severe dick move.
Oh come on! Have you forgot about how Windows security prompts worked? Seriously, clean your own house first before accusing your neighbor.
You can simply install an unsigned plugin or app in Mountain Lion by right click -> open.
So it’s basically same thing as in windows ‘run as administrator’.
No need to change the security settings..
I might write on a blog but I’m not really that technical of a person. I appreciate things running smoothly and effortlessly without digging into settings. That’s why I found myself shocked after beginning to use OSX to find it’s not as super user friendly as it was made out (not to say it isn’t, it’s just it still has things buried in settings that shouldn’t be)
Windows 7 is definitely more user friendly than any version of OSX. Anything you need to do is handled either by clicking on the start orb or by right clicking on whatever you want to do something with.
There’s not really any difference between clicking on Control Panel in the Windows start menu and clicking System Preferences in the Apple menu.
Personally I find the Apple menu and System Preferences less cluttered than the Windows way.
I’ve had a MacBook Air for one month now. I was astonished about how simple the UI is and it has made me wonder why Windows works like it works. Especially setting in windows it’s totally not user-friendly.
As for not knowing how to install a plugin. Like I said, I’ve owned a mac for just a month and even I know that there is a setting for that.
It’s like on MeeGo you have to enable download third-party apps from non-store sources. I don’t call that buried in settings.
I can’t imagine OSX being more easier than it is now.
The hardest thing for me to find out was how to change a filename. For anything else it works better than windows. And I’m not a fanboy. Still don’t mind using windows.
But I get it.
OK here’s the thing. I want to download a plugin for a browser.
I click download. click to open. Nothing happens. Just an error. That’s not user friendly in any way.
They could have given a prompt or a link on how to circumvent this issue, not relying on the user to have any knowledge at all. I know for most people here that would be easy, but the audience of this blog is not most people.
I’m thinking on the computer illiterate or not super tech savvy masses that will appreciate a computer doing things ‘naturally’ – something intuitive and anticipate what a person does. I’m not saying Windows does this, I’m just saying OSX isn’t as brilliantly easy as some users paint it to be.
I knew that there was a setting for that by googling my issue (yahoo awnsers?!). Doesn’t everybody google a tech problem? That’s how you get more tech savvy right?! I wasn’t born knowledgeable..
I consume knowledge.
But I can agree. People make OSX out to be more easier than it is.
” Doesn’t everybody google a tech problem? ”
No. Not at all. Otherwise I wouldn’t get calls from relatives or friends on how to fix their computer or phone. Even if I show them that they can find info on google. It’s an extra step, an annoying step for them, especially as there may be more than one solution or they can’t phrase their question correctly or whatever situation that means they can’t connect their problem with the correct search result.
Tech problems like these shouldn’t be a problem if there was a prompt to tell you how to go about installing if you still wanted to (and giving you information about the risks on why you might not want to). It takes time to read but at least you won’t need to search anything. Also, I’m sure that my Google results are getting more annoyingly incorrect.
Twitter is my source of tech support now. Actual people that know their stuff. After failed google search attempts, I get amazing results from those people that have experienced similar problems. Shame my friends/relatives don’t have access to those guys.
Did you read the error Jay?
It tells you that your security settings prevent the app installing. Also, clicking on the help button, which is even the default option pre-selected for you, tells you how to install it anyway, circumventing the setting.
Seems iMaps are not the only problem, iPhone 5 users may experience…
http://goo.gl/YNdJB
Judging by the iPhone sales, maps actually doesn’t matter that much. The fact that Apple will be able to quite easily switch to own maps solutions shows in how precarious position Nokia is. If MS chooses so, they can kick Nokia out of WP ecosystem the same way. On the other hand ending WP would be fatal for Nokia, mainly thanks to the no-plan-b policy. But Elop apparently thinks that providing maps to Windows is somehow equivalent to how MS has Nokia by the balls.
Marketing and carrier support is all that matters.. the rest is just features. Apple has it locked down.. they know what they are doing. Considering how long Nokia has been in the business, you would think they know how everything works.. i guess not.
Oh look, it’s nn again with the latest doomsday updates. It’ll happen any day now!
If if if if if.. if my auntie had balls, she would be my uncle. Because MS has so much reason to kick out Nokia. Then they either have to use Google for maps, or TomTom, like Apple. Yes soooo likely! Because all the reasons Apple had to get rid of Google apply to MS and Nokia!
+1 M. Lol.
At the moment Microsoft needs every leg up they can get. At the moment Nokia’s additional data is a great benefit to MS. By the time WP is big enough that MS doesn’t need Nokia anymore, Nokia will also be quite big again and raking in profits. Nokia gets more than half of WP sales, and that’s likely to continue for quite some time. MS would want at least more marketshare than iOS, and would also want Android’s share to be dropping below 50% before they shoot themselves by making any decision like that.
Take a look to this at GSM Arena:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-ios6-maps-copy-is-now-more-modest/
Even the ICON of Apple Maps is wrong