Video: The Witchcraft of PureView Optical Image stabilisation

| November 17, 2012 | 40 Replies

I had some pictures I wanted to share of my own tests using the PureView camera as I was so surprised with the results I was getting. It was just getting obscene amounts of light from no where.

This video from GTD explains and shows that in action much, much better! You can see his darkly lit room, and taking a picture without flash produces a picture as if there was some light there.

I’m really pleased with how the 920 takes some great pictures sans flash. It can be ok as well with LED flash on some occasions (I’ll hopefully be able to test this out later this week when I get mine fixed). Actually with some early tests of mine, there can be occasions where the scene looks better with no flash at all. It even looks better than what my own eyes can see.


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  • Jody

    Is OIS technology patented by Nokia? Im afraid some phonr manufacturers will now also start creating cameras with these technologies. :(

    • jiipee

      It was said somewhere that LG is preparing their own. I doubt Nokia can patent it since it is used in cameras.

      • Jesse

        The OIS is Nokia works very differently than in other cameras, so there is a very good chance that Nokia has their bases covered.

        • incognito

          How does it work differently than in other cameras? It’s a spring-based OIS system, it exists for decades now. Unless you can patent (which I wouldn’t be surprised these days) something specific as ‘use of OIS on a mobile phone’, I don’t see how Nokia can prevent others to implement it should they choose.

          • correct

            Almost all existing OIS systems have spring-loaded systems attached to the lens, not the entire camera module/assembly. This is how pretty much all digicams and DSLRs have their OIS systems set up. Nokia’s OIS system has the entire camera module suspended on springs, lens included.

            On the question asked, yes I do believe it will be very hard for competitors to simply copy it. It has been reported by numerous sources and I think by Nokia as well, that there are a ring of patents surrounding the PureView technologies.

          • Harangue

            AFAIK, Nokia controls the camera unit in conjunction with the gyroscope. The movement is measured by the gyro and then countered via the OIS thruogh electrical current or something. That is what I read somewhere atleast.

            • incognito

              Nope, it’s spring-loaded, not piezo-electric. That’s why you can’t dampen or shut it down completely.

  • Muerte

    By the way, the Finnish version of Lumia 920 includes the new Nokia TV, which works perfectly, and is a very useful new Nokia Exclusive-app. Multiple Finnish TV channels are supported with plenty on content. I didn’t remember this addition at all :)

    Expect it to launch in other countries in the near future as well. (Finland is their test playground at the moment, as you might assume)

    • jiipee

      Finland being the test area for Nokia TV is exception nowadays. I’ve heard from several people how the collaboration between Nokia and the local operators has diminished over time and is on very low levels nowadays. There are several reasons for that one being that the operators have subcontracted most of their maintenance work and there is no direct link between Nokia and the operators.

      • Muerte

        Yes, this is true, I was only referring to Nokia TV with my “playground” – part. :)

    • Dave

      Nokia TV has been available for ages on WP7, alas sadly not on the Lumia 610 for some no doubt very stupid reason.

  • JGrove303

    They’vw been naking SLRs with OIS fot a long while now. However, Dinning & Co. are the first to develop a full floating sensor amd lens unit in one package amd employ it n a compact platform.a true marvel of ingenuity.

    One can only assume Nokia would claim photographic dominance in, 1.) the convergence of PureView Phase 1 & 2 in to a mobile platform, and, 2.) they deploy it as a stand alone vamera platform.

    The professional camera industry still scoffs at high pixel counts, but brought to the Digital Single Lens Reflex platform or even digital compact package, Nokia would not be confined to size limitations and would be able to produce 64Mp sensors (the level digital sensors would have to meet to obtain the amount of detail film can record) and turn the world upside-down.

    One innovation at a time I suppose. We can only hope it is not stifled.

    • twig

      Would Nokia be able to produce a line of MAGNETIC camera lenses? One to increase a 8mp to 41mp..a night vision lenses…a telescope lenses for filming stars…a motion picture lenses for professional filming. All with Nokia name on the side.

      • Jesse

        Uh… You’re quite the troll or really uneducated on many things. Where to even start the explaining… Most of what you envision is will not be possible, ever. Not by Nokia or any other company.
        It is not possible to attach more pixels to a image sensor with a lens. Or chance the properties of the sensor, for night vision. A telescope would be possible, but the idea of doing astral photography with a phone is quite… random, which brings me to the last idea: Motion picture usage. In these very specially technical genres of technology, the requirements for quality are so high, that using a camera mounted to a mobile phone would really be far away in the future. Today, a camera used in filmmaking is a speciality device custom-made for just one purpose – shooting photos of stars or making movies. I’m not the only one to say that it will be the same in the future as well.
        Please have a conversation with a living person, a camera salesman maybe, to get an idea of what you are suggesting, so he or she can respond to you so that you’ll get all the needed info required to set you back to earth so to speak.
        Congrats on your fantasy though.

        • shallow ocean shoal

          Hey man, Lytro made something impossible, possible…

          • Jesse

            No, light field photography is an old thing, and even older theory. Lytro just produced a portable version. The things twig asked about can not be done with an external, MAGNETIC lens or lenses. It’s just really not possible to change a device (sensor) to another by adding something in front of it.

            • twig

              The film Olive was filmed with an N8 and clunky lenses attachment in 2011. Jay posted someone filming the moon with an attachment last year. I’m not saying you change an internal lenses but perhaps with nano tech and Nokia’s ability, you perhaps add to the lenses qualities to simulate a higher mp. I don’t know why you couldn’t do night vision? Not for taking pictures but for just seeing, wouldn’t a night vision attachment like the headgear be able to be modified into a smartphone attachment? The smartphone camera just represents the human eye in this case correct?

    • correct

      Thank you, someone who knows the facts. Fact is Nokia’s OIS system is the first of it’s kind, and it is indeed a marvel. Nokia is the first one to have come up with a full floating sensor and lens assembly in one package. In other words, Nokia is the first one ever to have an entire camera module in a stabilized floating system.

    • Dr.Smart

      maybe PV1 and PV2 are not compatible if you think about it. OIS in PV2 is possible only because the entire module is so small, whereas PV1, more or less, requires a huge sensor as well as huge pixel counts to enable digital zoom and pixel binning.

      So the MEMS operated stabilization on a grander module may not work as effectively (ie fast) as in smaller module.

  • JGrove303

    I roo have gotten some killer no dlash low light shots that i never could get before the 920.Cats and dogs don’t like flash much, especially xenon. I’ll sjare them soon.

  • Paul Grenfell

    Extreme low light through window (drizzle) 808.

  • Tetlee

    You can achieve similar results with the 808 by adjusting ISO, bump it up to 800 or even 800 or even more extreme 1600 and it can make a dark room appear light, it’s a fun experiment to make.

    Steve Litchfield over at allaboutsymbian did a very interesting article about this very subject just recently…

    • Tetlee

      *sorry, was meant to read 400 or even 800

      • Paul Grenfell

        I used 1600 with 2nd pic, but could easily have done it at 800.iso

  • Paul Grenfell

    This room was illuminated with nothing more than the little pocket led on the table , pointing to the ceiling..808..

  • JGrove303

    Those are some great shots, Paul. Especially the drizzle.

    However, I can’t help but feel like your only sharing them in this thread to stand up for the 808. No one here had said that the 920 is superior.

    Quite the contrary, it’s a know fact that the 808 spanks everything in mobile, P&S and a good portion of the DSLRs, a fact known well here.

    My N8-00 still holds its own on daylight and where flash is optimum versus the 920, and I personally still want to get an 808 as my more dedicated camera for stills.

    Where the 920 shines is in the metrics of “auto, no flash, shoot immediately” and it betters my N8-00 in the video department.

    When I said I got shots with the 920 I would never have gotten before, I’m talking about my previous devices only ( W810a, W580a, W760i, BB 9700, HTC Hero, N8-00)

    • Harangue

      Exactly, the 808 shines by itself. It doesn’t need to prove anything towards the 920. The beauty of the 920 lies in the way that it does it all near automatically without fiddling with any setting.

      The 808 does kick the 920 in about every other single aspect though.

      • Just Visiting

        But leave it to Paul to point out 808′s attributes whenever there is an article praising the 920.

  • joza2006

    Good thing is Nokia is bringing many aspects of great camera features with every new phone they make. It’s scary to think what next two years could bring us.. While others bring bigger and bigger screens to the table.

  • Jo

    OIS on the 920 is not as good as the ones in real cameras.
    and it not really huge improvement
    808 have way better camera quality even without it,
    920 needs a xenon flash

    • correct

      You have no idea what you’re talking about for OIS

  • jak2000

    would like to see full resolution images of these images that the general has taken. I want to see if they are full of noise and a little blurry.

  • jake2k

    Nokia 808 on Auto

    Nokia 808 ISO 800

  • jake2k

    sorry for the double post.. forgot no html tags here..

    Nokia 808 on Auto

    Nokia 808 ISO 800

    • Paul Grenfell

      Pretty good for 800..but would be even better at 1600, however there would be more noise.. Although that would depend to a degree on mp setting. 8mp should do better than say 5 or 2,mp

    • Paul Grenfell

      This is what i love about the 808, there are a multitude of settings you can play with, to get that pic just the way you want it, and still have the option for point and shoot.

  • Wendell

    Anyone try any shots of the stars with their 920? I’d like to see how it handles starlight, trees silhouetted by night sky, etc.

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