iOS7 Steals Windows Phone’s Mulitasking Layout

| June 10, 2013 | 256 Replies

Screen Shot 2013-06-10 at 9.34.01 PMFor those of you who have been keeping away from twitter and the rest of the internet, Apple are announcing their latest version of iOS as we speak. Included in this latest iteration of grid icons is a new multitasking layout, as seen above; remind you of anything?

 

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Also is it just me or does that messaging view look a lot like Meegos’?applewwdc2013-0218

 

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  • dss

    In terms of functionality they’ve certainly come a long way since 1.0

    • Viipottaja

      True. 6 years. Very carefully and well managed, aided by the immense popularity allowing them to take measured, careful steps.

  • Rudeboi

    I think it’s refreshing to be honest and quite useful and of ease to use. Further more Apple has done what the others are trying to do with systems intragration to have a complete ecosystem. As far as hardware is concern, no one knows what the iPhone may really look like or it brings far as enhancing features. Just wish it had a 16:9 camera option instead of 4:3😞, along with being a tad bigger then the current phone 4″ size. Other then that their camera has been really good for quite sometime

    • Paul grenfell

      yes , 4.7″. 16/9 would be good.

    • dss

      16:9 on the iphone 5′s sensor/lens combo won’t do much.. way too narrow. All it will do is cut the frame from the top and the bottom.

      • Werner Ruotsalainen

        dss, currently, the iPhone 5 has a 33 mm equiv camera when used for 4:3 stills shooting and 41mm equiv for 720p / 1080p video recording.

        This means using a much wider lens and proper sensor oversampling they could provide a much wider field-of-view with, say, a 26mm lens – as is done on the Nokia 808 / 920.

        This also means the field-of-view doesn’t depend on the aspect ratio itself, but more importantly on the lens and how the sensor is sampled during video shooting.

  • StefanP

    Apple stealing from MS? The art is not to design something, but to use it! Nokia could “steal” a lot from Nokia. Unfortunately they decided to design a lot and not use it later on.

    • tiyo xi

      +11

  • ibram

    hahaha… more like a webOS or HTC ONe X multitask for me. can ur wp multitask wipe up to close an app?

  • ibram
  • http://europe.nokia.com/nokia808pureview steelicon

    Everyone copies from everyone, including even *gasp!* Nokia!

    It is HOW they implement it that matters and HOW the UX translates to the target users.

    Nothing is new in this world. Everything is recycled and just a variation of a few parameters. Deal with it. ;-)

    • tiyo xi

      ok ;)

  • http://www.tohodo.com/ Tom

    I think we’re getting to the age of feature commoditization now where everything can be interpreted as a copy of something else. Sh*t, it’s multitasking — if that’s the best way to do it, then that’s the way it’s gonna be done by most people.

  • dss

    This is the best way:

    http://i.imgur.com/d7KY5DV.jpg

    No saved states, no bs.. all of them running in real time, presented in a clean and practical way.

    • Shaun

      According to Apple, iOS 7 no longer does saved states anymore. They use some kind of profiling to assign task priorities based on usage but otherwise it’s proper multi tasking.

      That just leaves Windowd Phone looking like a feature phone OS.

      • Werner Ruotsalainen

        It’s not proper multitasking. You still can’t run any type of code in the background; you can’t access the TV / projector output from there etc.

        All iOS7 has is as “a revolutionary new feature” is a simple card-based task switcher. It’s in no way “proper multitasking”, no matter what superlatives Apple uses.

        • Shaun

          Sorry but you’re wrong. They explicitly announced that all apps were allowed to multitask, not just the limited subset of app types they had previously.

          What do you mean by accessing the TV/projector?

          • Werner Ruotsalainen

            1. I haven’t had the chance of testing iOS7b1 yet – my iPhone5 is is still being repaired. As soon as I get it back, I install and test iOS7b1, including coding some multitask tests to see whether true, full multitasking is indeed allowed. I’ll report back.

            Now, I only know the following (citating MacRumors’ article at http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/12/upcoming-ios-7-apis-gaming-improvements-multitasking-support-airdrop-and-more/ ):

            “Multitasking and Background Downloads – Apple’s new multitasking APIs are designed to allow apps to update and download content in the background at intelligently scheduled times. For example, a Twitter app might incorporate this functionality, downloading new content in the background while the phone is not otherwise in use, staying up to date without unnecessarily draining battery. Push notifications can also initiate content downloads. ”

            That is, you can in no way except any app to run in the background and, say, continue outputting video to an external TV. Something Backgrounder / Quasar / Background Manager are all capable of as one of the best usages of these tweaks. At least according to this article, it’s just a somewhat more advanced download support – nothing else. Definitely not the same thing as in Android / Symbian / Windows Mobile or even Windows RT’s “snap” mode.

            2, outputting to an external TV: this would be a highly useful feature on non-windowing devices – one that, currently, works just great on even jailbroken iPhones using one of the above tools. Useful for all kinds of TV outputting; for example, quickly looking up something in another app while continuing with an uninterrupted Keynote presentation. The latter is impossible on stock iOS.

    • L800

      What’s that? Symbian? What tweaks have been done to get it to look like that?

  • soysauce

    My goodness, can the already super girly iPhone 5 be even more girly? The answer is YES with iOS 7. As a man, do you expect me to carry this long, skinny phone around with flowery icons? It’s time to move onto a Nokia phone.

    • Werner Ruotsalainen

      The main target of iPhone has long been the elderly / female folks. This is why, among other things, Apple refuses to make the OS more “complicated” and this is why it’s almost completely devoid of features.

      • dss

        I don’t know about the rest of the world, but here in the US the iPhone is popular amongst a pretty broad demographic range, which is the scariest part.

        They are easy, they look good, and everyone has one..Out of my life circle, which is rather large, I am the only one who doesn’t use one as a main smartphone. I do have one, but I prefer my 808 over it.

        I travel a lot, and I meet a lot of people.. I would say the iPhone has a huge advantage over the rest. The beauty of it is that all of these people, a very small % will even consider switching to a different phone, and they will buy an iPhone for their next, they will recommend it to friends and family..

        All in all, apple has a very healthy user base here in the US. More than most people realize.

        And yes, they are very popular amongst females.. I can’t even remember the last time I saw a girl with anything but an iphone.

        The rest have an opportunity to catch costumers that are 1st time smartphone buyers.. once they go iPhone, its pretty much done.

        This is also proving hard because of the social/peer pressure from family and friends who already have one. Here in the US they have something called iMessage.. and it works perfectly fine amongst iphones, but you are left out if you don’t have one.. especially if they are group texting..

        The iPhone is almost a synonym for a smartphone here.. people just say iphone even if its something else with a touch screen..

        • zlutor

          if this is really general it was what a bright idea to focus on USA with introducing WP.

          And spending hell of a lot of money on promoting it there…

          • Janne

            To get the apps from U.S. developers and the attention from U.S. media.

            More WP shows in U.S. media, more the world that follows U.S. media shows it too (and oppositely if it were missing from U.S. media it would miss elsewhere too). Yes, U.S./English-speaking media and popular culture has that effect on the world, like it or not.

            Secondly, much of the mobile app development is done in the U.S. WP needs to make as big a showing there as possible, to entice the developers that make the apps that resonate world-wide.

            Look, I’m the first to admit Nokia and Microsoft have failed to succeed in the U.S. market. However, I do think U.S. media and app-developers are actually giving Nokia and WP disproportionately good attention now, compared to their local success in the U.S. That does count for something.

      • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

        I really think you have missed a point.

        Apple almost managed to completely wipe out Nokia in the high end and that happened because they made an easy to use user interface for iPhone. Sure, it was also more reliable compared to Symbian, but that’s another story.

        It’s not refusing but more like shipping an easy to use operating system and user interface.

        On the other hand it could be said that iPhone is not targeted to those people who think that it’s not fine to pay for an operating system.

        • Werner Ruotsalainen

          “Apple almost managed to completely wipe out Nokia in the high end and that happened because they made an easy to use user interface for iPhone.”

          And also because of the superior hardware, at least when it comes to tablets before the Nexus 10 – but not necessarily any more. (Actually, hardware-wise, now Samsung and Nokia have taken the lead.)

          “Sure, it was also more reliable compared to Symbian, but that’s another story.”

          Yup, simple(r) OS’es always have less bugs than more powerful ones (Symbian, Windows Mobile at the time).

          “On the other hand it could be said that iPhone is not targeted to those people who think that it’s not fine to pay for an operating system.”

          I don’t really get your point. Are you saying Android / WP8 is the poor’s operating system – or, at least, people that don’t want to pay that much for an iPhone? Android / WP8 flagships cost the same as the iPhone (I’m talking about unsubsidized prices).

          Or, do you mean Android is preferred by pirates?

          • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

            Superior hardware what it comes to tables? I don’t really get your point because Nokia hardly had any real modern tablets. I don’t think those with Maemo count.

            On mobile phones Apple started to hit Nokia in the high end with iPhone 3G but they didn’t almost wipe out Nokia overnight. It took years and it happened mostly because of the software.

            Are you calling Unix variant less powerful than Symbian? That’s an interesting point of view. And yes, I’m talking about OS.

            There has been a certain group of people who think that it’s not a good idea to pay for an operating system. Some of them may be pirates, not all of them.

            In a way piracy is easier on Android and Android suffers more of piracy, so in a way, yes. However that was not my point. Apple has their own share of piracy.

            • Werner Ruotsalainen

              “Superior hardware what it comes to tables? I don’t really get your point because Nokia hardly had any real modern tablets.”

              This is what I meant, as has also been explained in my other comments here. While iOS has never been particularly powerful or open, back in 2010-2012, it also had the lead in tablet hardware because there were no other high-end, quality tablets on the market. It’s only starting with the Nexus 10 that the situation started to change. (I don’t consider Samsung’s Note 10′s to be a worthy contender. While they do have Wacom support, they still have low-res screens.)

              “Are you calling Unix variant less powerful than Symbian? That’s an interesting point of view. And yes, I’m talking about OS.”

              Come on – exactly what percentage of the underlying system is exposed via the API? OBEX? Call recording? File sharing via symlinks? For example, the latter IS supported by the Unix FS without any further need for development. Does iOS make use of it? Of course it doesn’t – it still has the archaic, very limited and pretty pathetic (lengthy and 200 MByte-capped) file transfer between apps.

              Both WinMo and Symbian were far more featureful than iOS. Copy/paste before iOS4? OBEX even now? True multitasking? Not even the current reincarnation allows for true multitasking – something WinCE / Pocket PC / WinMo has always been capable of (and Symbian too). And the list continues…

              • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

                I really don’t understand your point. Are you saying that iPad wiped out Nokia’s tablets even while there really were none? After all, I was talking about Apple almost wiping out Nokia in high end. In mobile phones. And yes, by the end of 2010 Nokia pretty much lost almost everything in the high end what it comes to the mobile phones.

                It’s another thing to wipe out the competitors than preventing them from taking lots of market share. I was talking about the first one. Not the second.

                About the OS.

                Lots of features were not exposed but not exposing all the features doesn’t make the OS itself less powerful.

                It’s another subject to talk about features available for the user. Much more interesting one.

                About copy paste. Are you serious about that? Do you know how crappy the copy paste was on S60?

                It doesn’t matter if others had that kind of features before iOS. Really, what’s the point in copy paste if I can’t even do that on a web page loaded with the standard web client shipped with the device?

                Really, how do I copy paste an image from a web page on a Symbian device dating before iOS 4?

                • Werner Ruotsalainen

                  “Really, how do I copy paste an image from a web page on a Symbian device dating before iOS 4?”

                  At least you could copy _text_ without problems, which is needed far more often than copying other content to the clipboard. This is what iOS was also completely incapable of in pre-iOS3 times.

                  And this is why there were even Web browser apps in the AppStore that at least partly made this possible. Remember Magic Browser (iBlueAngel) and its pretty expensive price tag ($5.99)? Well, another shining example of AppStore’s full of apps that at least try to mimick features that other operating systems had built-in.

                  • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

                    Actually I wasn’t able to do that. I checked several times how to do it but most of the time didn’t really remember the procedure. Most of the people didn’t even know that it was possible.

                    Now when I think about it, how did you copy that text from a web page with S60 device predating iOS4? I don’t think I never figured out how to do that. I thought it was impossible.

                    App Store had a great implementation. Finally it was possible to easily purchase apps and get some of those features you wanted. $5.99 is a high price for an app, but it was a very low price if compared to the prices of Symbian Applications predating App Store.

                    There is nothing wrong with letting 3rd party developers to do mimic features OS doesn’t have.

                    Besides, as far as I’m concerned, Symbian didn’t have an usable copy paste before iOS4.

                    • Werner Ruotsalainen

                      “Now when I think about it, how did you copy that text from a web page with S60 device predating iOS4? I don’t think I never figured out how to do that. I thought it was impossible.”

                      I think it was possible with either the stock Web browser or Opera Mini. Will test it on my N95 some time.

                      “Besides, as far as I’m concerned, Symbian didn’t have an usable copy paste before iOS4.”

                      It did. I’ve used it a lot. Also on WinCE / Palm-size PC / Pocket PC / Windows Mobile, where it worked flawlessly – yes, even in Web browsers, and yes, even in WinCE 1.0, back in 1996. 12 years before iPhone OS 3 added it as a “revolutionary” “new” feature…

                    • Werner Ruotsalainen

                      “There is nothing wrong with letting 3rd party developers to do mimic features OS doesn’t have. ”

                      Have you ever used Magic Browser (aka iBlueAngel)? You obviously haven’t; otherwise, you wouldn’t state it was able to deliver as good a copy/paste implementation as competing operating systems’ true, native clipboard support. I did need to use it back in 2008-2009, before iOS3. It was far inferior to the native copy/paste support in iOS3+ – and, yes, far inferior to the other OS’es.

                    • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

                      Please do test that feature. I never really figured it out.

                      I don’t really know how useful is a feature if it’s so hard to use that people don’t even know how to use it.

                      I guess we can agree that Symbian had that feature suitable for your need, but it didn’t have sufficient copy paste for my needs.

                      I don’t remember using that app. Well. At least there was some app for that task.

                      The idea of copy paste may not have been revolutionary, but the implementation was definitely the best on iOS4. I never saw a better one on a mobile phone before Apple’s implementation.

                    • Werner Ruotsalainen

                      “Please do test that feature. I never really figured it out. ”

                      Done on my N95 running the latest firmware (30-something).

                      The built-in Nokia Web doesn’t support copying from inside non-forms (form content selection / copying works just fine with the pen button).

                      Opera Mobile and Mini both support copying even from inside Web pages – just press-and-hold the Action button and select “Select”. After finishing selecting the text, press Action again (“Use”). Then, select what you want to do (run a Google search, copy to the system clipboard etc.)

                  • Adriano

                    Ooooh! Or the MMS app, because iOS couldn’t send MMS natively. ‘Not to worry, there’s an app for that’

                    • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

                      Just like N9 at the time when iPhone already had MMS?

                • Werner Ruotsalainen

                  “Lots of features were not exposed but not exposing all the features doesn’t make the OS itself less powerful.

                  It’s another subject to talk about features available for the user. Much more interesting one.”

                  Look, if you don’t have any access to, say, OBEX or symlinks, then, it’s non-existing for you as a user, even if the OS itself would support them. No matter how hard you’re trying to defend iOS: the lack of these features is a huge problem. iOS’s current file sharing is pathetic and buggy – using symlinks, it’d be far more powerful.

                  • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

                    I’m not really defending iOS.

                    That would apply if we were talking about UI, but it’s really not same thing as OS even while UI and OS are usually shipped together in the world of mobile phones.

                    The actual difference for the end user may not be that great, but in the end an Unix variant may allow greater flexibility resulting with a better product just because it’s a more powerful as an OS.

                    Of course it’s an endless discussion about the most powerful OS just because there are so many different points of views for that matter.

                    Maybe I can’t express myself as well as I wanted to.

                    My English skills are definitely not so great as they should be for a discussion like this, so we may have a slight language barrier here.

                    I’ll try to rephrase my point.

                    I have never claimed that iOS had more features on the UI side of that if would be more powerful if that’s measured with the number of features the user can access.

              • Shaun

                Nexus 10? More like the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire.

                I don’t know anyone with a Nexus 10 and most of the smaller Samsung tablet users I know got them for free when buying a Samsung phone.

                • Werner Ruotsalainen

                  The Nexus 7 is in a completely different category than high-end (Retina) iPads. It can only be meaninfully compared to the iPad mini and, unless size / weight is of importance, it has little appeal to power users because of the, compared to the iPad 3/4, far inferior screen.

                  The Fire is even worse in this respect – it isn’t even a true Android device, unless you root it.

                  The first high-end Android tablet that can directly be compared to the iPad 4 (its direct competitor) is the Nexus 10.

          • Grazy

            personally the one thing that puts me off the iPhone was their first release.

            2G!! rubbish camera, poor build quality! Sure a lot has changed now as the Iphone from 4 onwards are now getting there! but I can’t believe how people are so quick to move over when the hardware/tech was years behind at the time!

            • Werner Ruotsalainen

              Yes, the camera was (and, for several years, have been) sub-par compared to for example Nokia’s then-current high-end camera-centric offerings (iPhone 2G vs. N95; 3G vs. N86; iPhone 4 vs. N8; 4S vs. 808 etc.). The gap has, however, been closing, particularly if the iPhone 5 is compared to the Lumia 92x line (and not the 808). I myself prefer the iPhone5 outdoors, particularly for panorama shots.

              Nevertheless, even the iPhone 2G had some stuff right. For example, the capacitive touchscreen. Before the iP2G, resistive touchscreens were the norm. (And in many models after that too – remember the Nokia 5800?) And it sucked like hell.

              Also, the OS was indeed far easier to use than Windows Mobile or Symbian – or even BlackBerry. This has too tremenduously contributed to its success. While Windows Mobile handsets were typically male geeks’ and corporate users’ handset, iPhone quickly became those of technically illiterate women / the elderly (too) because it was far easier to use than, say, a WinMo handset.

              • Adriano

                Don’t bash the 5800! Mine worked like a champ in the cold Michigan winters while capacitive-screened iPhones simply froze and had to be warmed up.

                • Bassman

                  I must say, I actually really liked my 5800, even with its resistive screen, compared to my friends iPhone 3g it fared very well.

              • Shaun

                I’d like to know where you’re getting your data about the iPhone being popular with women and the elderly. My experience is that it has very broad appeal and particularly amongst the tech early adopters.

  • julius

    Nokia should go the htc route: one high end lumia (fabula 4.2-4.5 inch), one low end lumia (720 body but 4 inch), lumia pureview (40 mpix 4.3 inch) and lumia phablet (5-5.5 inch). Keep it simple. All these models and carrier variants just manage to do one thing: compete with each other. No point racing to the bottom, you’ll just fragment the ecosystem.

  • Kalis

    You must all be drunk to say that Apple “copied” this from the WP multitasking view… it appeared in WebOS and HTC Sense long ago as stated before. It is really sad to see this flame-war going on between WP, Android and Apple people, grow up and notice the great things about different alternatives and that there will ALWAYS be things that are “inspired” or copied by others.

    I must say that coming from iOS, Android, Meego and now evaluating a Lumia 720, the Lumia is by far the worst phone in a while, although it has some great bits as well!

    /* Kalis */

  • sbw44

    I know many people will say we don’t need thousands of apps me included but Apple is reaching the Million mark! I mean 1 Million apps to download while WP is stuck on 150 000.

    MS and Nokia needs to do something about it damn because in every review I see they point out WP is still way behind iOS and Android in app catalogs.

    • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

      That’s bad but let’s hope WP will improve.

      It would be interesting to know if BB has stalled.

  • Hermes

    iOS7 steals also from Jolla: background image affecting how rest of the system looks. There is also more transparency used in the outlook and user experience, maybe that is also Jolla-inspired.

  • sailfishos rocks

    does jolla ui have control center? N9 has it

  • jolla > nokia

    why didnt apple copy these things

    1.double tap to unlock?
    2.swipe from right/left bezel to go home and therefore the homebutton is removed and ifans can have longer/bigger screen size in iphone 5 body, “unlike” wp

    • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

      1. Probably because that would result accidental unlocking of the phone.

      2. Probably because people like to have the home button. This may change in the future, but currently home button makes the phone easier to use.

      • Shaun

        1. It doesn’t. I’ve never accidentally unlocked my n9.

        2. It doesn’t. It makes it harder to use. It takes very little time to unlearn pressing physical buttons.

        See the n9 for the counter argument.

        • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

          1. Last time I tried N9, it was pretty easy to accidentally unlock the device.

          2. Apparently that is the case for you. I found N9 to be quite messy to use if there were lots of open applications.

  • sailfishos rocks

    if only apple remove the home button

    • Symbian was not responsibe for everything

      This is strange.

      Most people wanting that to happen are usually same people who really hate Apple and would never in any case get a product made by Apple.

      I really wonder why these people hope Apple would remove the home button. What’s the advantage for them?

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