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RANT: Bitter view of the N9. Baseless criticisms from Nokia’s favourite ‘journalist’? #wp

| July 19, 2011 | 43 Replies

Bitter. That’s the feeling I get in YLE’s interview with Eldar Murtazin (Why on earth is YLE interviewing him? I am utterly amazed why they now stick with the tag line that he’s a guy that gets a lot of things right. Seems anything wrong has just been forgotten. Also that noting things that are already public knowledge isn’t “getting things right” in terms of insider information).

I don’t have a beef with people criticising Nokia. I’ll be there with the best of them when they criticize Nokia on points they deserve criticism on. But to criticise just for the sake of it?  Read the points in this post as to why I think Eldar is just disliking Nokia for the sake of it. (First based on his post about the N9, later interview with YLE)

A concern we have always had with Nokia’s Windows Phone is that the first batches will not be the supreme high end phones that they NEED to be to reinvigorate the Nokia portfolio and change the view on Nokia. Such a ‘Nokia Stamp’ might not appear until 2012 as it takes time to come up with a flagship.

However, what we do know at least ONE Nokia Windows Phone. Code name Sea Ray. It looks like the N9. It is pretty much a N9 with Windows Phone. On the hardware front, it has received rapturous applause, from fans, independent and event Nokia haters.

Sticking just on the hardware

1) The screen is sumblime.

GSM Arena says the screen is Magnificant and it is bordering on perfection! Engadget says it’s like looking into the eyes of God (though tongue in cheek, we remember how many posts they had to show their love for N9). Vlad said, “I need to say this – the AMOLED screen on this phone is just GORGEOUS. Gorilla glass screen and it’s curved, it melts of meets the physical bits is beautiful, if feels fantastic when you’re holding it and touching it and the itnerface plays right into that because it’s all black and you have the menus – the animation of the menus make them look like they’re popping out at you.”

What did Eldar think? I don’t know if he has used the N9. You don’t need to apparently.

When it was released he was the ONLY person trying to shoot the N9 down. Pretty average specs on the screen resolution and size, saying it’s Samsung’s old stock and from previous generation. ERM. Samsung Galaxy SII, Samsung’s flagship has 800×480. N9 has 854×480? If N9 was the same on resolution, then is SGSII on an average screen? GSM Arena says the N9 matches the SGSII on image quality. That’s amazing what Nokia can do then with older screens huh Eldar? Why are you constantly on a downer about Nokia? There are legitimate areas you can burn Nokia on. I’ll join you! But to pick on things just to be bitter is well, not so good. Especially when some consider you an analyst. (I’m not of course, I’m just a Nokia fan)

In short: Screen is up there amongst with the best. Why imply it’s less than that? That it’s something shoddy? Something average?

2) Everyone’s loved the slick design of the N9.

Engadget says it’s fantastic. 

The N9 comes in Blue, Pink and Black. The black one is the one that does it most justice. Vlad agrees. VLAD! “The black one blows the other two out of the water. It is so slick and sophisticated, it is just so beautiful. Like honestly if you put a Vertu branding on it, I would be like, ‘finally, Vertu has a phone worthy of those 10,000USD price tags’.”

GSM Arena said, “N9 is one of the hottest looking smartphones we’ve seen this year…It also looks extra sturdy so dropping it wouldn’t be as heartbreaking as if another handset is involved. ”

What does Eldar say? This is just cheap plastic. Nothing special. Again, nothing special like the screen. Nothing special like the N8′s AVERAGE camera huh? Eldar’s response to the design is that it’s just the iPod nano and that Nokia shouldn’t copy Apple’s design.

3) Camera.

We’ve seen some early samples and they’re great. On what Engadget has seen, Nokia are onto a winner.

These are still non production quality for Nokia. We’ve seen Eldar’s opinions on supposedly “mediocre” Nokia pictures (whereas everyone else shows N8 is spectacular – not just Nokia fans).

Now whilst 12MP was apparently not an advantage over 8, 1080p is something significant over the 720p. Have you seen how good the 720p video is from the N8? Check out today’s N8 video post. It’s not just a tickbox, here we go, 1080p.

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He further rips on MeeGo-Harmattan’s supposed buttonless innovation, calling Swipe attractive on the surface (ooh, a complement) but shallow inside (there we go, there’s the backhand slap). Well, that’s entirely for another post, no?

The N9 is so bad, he’s not even going to take “his precious time” to review it.

I don’t think we need to if all we are going to here is unecessary scathing. Even GIZMODO showed love for N9 hardware (they wanted Mango on it)

YLE Interview

Now, knowing that at least on HARDWARE there is good coming to Windows Phone, what on earth does the following from YLE mean to you?

http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2011/07/bloggers_increasingly_influence_nokias_share_price_2731668.html

“There is no chance of changing the display”

Why would I want to change the damn display??!?

“they cannot add their own unique services. In practice Nokia’s Windows 7 phone is just Nokia’s own design. And that’s it.”

1) To the first batch perhaps. We have already had articles saying Ovi Maps will not appear with Mango. We have heard Nokia say the Nokia stamp will appear later (as there is a short development time). NOW Eldar says it, news outlets will have AMNESIA of what has already been previously said and credit all this vision to him.

2) Nokia’s uniqueness will come at least with the hardware of Nokia phones. N9 is unique. Sea Ray will be ‘blessed’ with the same. What is Samsung/ZTE/Fujitsu adding in terms of uniqueness? There’s a LOT that Mango delivers to Windows Phone. Nokia’s inability to modify it at this stage does not suddenly prevent the phone from working to the same standard as other Windows Phones.

On that note

“It’s the same inside, it’s the same speed, the display is the same. There aren’t any differences. In practice we are getting exactly the same device.”

The same speed? You mean the speedier than NoDo speed? That’s a great thing! Windows Phone Vanilla is already very fast. It got faster with NoDo and reports and demos show it’s even faster again with Mango.

Note that when he says the same…the same as what? Current 1GHz devices or the new batch? There’s a possible SGSII with Windows Phone. Even then, folks aren’t minding the N9 with 1GHz. Here we have seen the N9 is already super fast. On 1GHz we’ve already seen WP is  pretty fast?

Eldar’s view on the Nokia leaks is that they happened because some folks at Nokia dislike where Nokia was heading. They are disobeying Elop. What?! We have always had Nokia leaks. Eldar himself was the master of leaks. All before Elop time. What on earth was the reason for the leak then? It doesn’t matter what the story is, it MUST be painted in the most negative light if it has something to do with Nokia, right Eldar? (btw, N9 was possibly one of the best hidden, only leaked hours before launch)

The interview ends with the whole MS buying Nokia thing again. YLE notes that Nokia says Eldar has a vivid imagination (truly vivid that he can have impressions on the N9 without touching it – or at least opening his eyes).

” Nokia also says that Murtazin is said to work as a consultant for competing mobile manufacturers, so cannot be said to be an independent, impartial analyst.” YLE

Again, the whole hating on Nokia for the sake of it is getting tiring. They have some real areas that many Nokia fans would join Eldar on chastising Nokia. But no. He picks on anything, even Nokia advantages and areas other sources praise Nokia, constructing different situations as all being something negative for Nokia.

To those that dislike this MS direction. Put your hate for Windows Phone aside for one moment. THAT is not what is on topic. What I’m discussing here is over-the-top negative and unfair views on Nokia, regardless of the OS. People who claim to be ‘journalists’ (not tech Bloggers or fanboy bloggers) aren’t these at least supposed to have some hint of objectivity? Some sort of fairness and neutrality? How can a group of people wonder at a camera, be amazed by the screen, but in one fell swoop, it is average – when by that standard, the competition with identical specs or worse should not be considered in a higher regard? It appears to me that even if we were to judge the curvature of two identically drawn circles, the one with Nokia is obviously somehow more jagged than say, the other identical circle with Samsung? Please don’t be too bitter about our criticism. You can dish it out, so take some.

Cheers Mika and Joni for the tip!

http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2011/07/bloggers_increasingly_influence_nokias_share_price_2731668.html

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  • phishbone

    Jay, I agree with the whole rant – all of it; but why give Eldar any airtime? I can find more intelligence and objectivity in my cat’s litter box. Maybe it’s just time to ignore the troll.

    • Jay Montano

      Did and have ignored him for a while…most of this could have been written weeks ago when he wrote his tirade against n9. Just can’t stand how he has some how received a reputation of being an oracle and how his words will be repeated verbatim without background and understanding his motives.

      • h3csc

        That is the reason why I love reading MNB
        Eldar is lame, so does AllAboutSymbian
        One extreme hater and another extreme fanboy

    • Coala.Bear

      Looks like you are amazingly familiar with the content of your cat’s litterbox, no?) All opinions are pretty biassed, Jay’s and your’s make just one more proof of this apparent fact. An intelligent man considers both sides and boils down the truth

      • Nrde

        Well Jay “proved” that he (and most others) are right and Eldar is wrong. So he already boiled it for us.

        Some years ago I actually liked Eldars reviews, but for couple of years he has shown just how biased he is.

    • Calvin H

      Did anyone here actually read the article?

      -Guess how many times the N9 is written… 0.
      -The article basically says the same things as everyone here thinks:

      ”Nokia’s new leadership is trying to change the company’s former corporate culture, and make it more American. This has provoked opposition. The employees’ former loyalty to the company has disappeared since Stephen Elop became CEO. The leaks stem from that. People no longer believe in what they are doing, and they do not want to do what they are told.”

      “He is surprised that Nokia is now relying solely on Microsoft. It is limiting. Nokia discontinued the Symbian and Meego operating systems and is clinging to an outside system with a smaller market share. It is betting on a dead horse.”

      ”We already know that in practice Nokia didn’t get anything at all. There is no chance of changing the display, they cannot add their own unique services. In practice Nokia’s Windows 7 phone is just Nokia’s own design. And that’s it.”

      ”He will create the conditions under which Nokia will no longer have any other option but to sell a part of the company to Microsoft.”

      ***Read the article people. It becomes quite clear that Jay is the bias here. He loves/get paid to right about, WP7, this is just another spin***

      • Jay Montano

        Did you actually read what I wrote?

        I used the N9 piece Eldar wrote as a background to Eldar’s opinions on ANYTHING Nokia.

        It was a post I wanted to write at the time Eldar unleashed his piece but I decided to ignore it.

        It is to point out that whilst person A+B+C sees a circle, if it is tagged Nokia, Eldar will regard it as a triangle. How can you dismiss a bias against the N9′s screen being average specd when it has more pixels than SGS II, on par with SGSII, called magnificent, and regarded as one of the best screens?

        I don’t get paid to write about Microsoft or Nokia. I like how you try and taint my character to justify your opinion.

        • Michael Faro-Tusino

          + 1 :)

        • Calvin H

          I read your post, I also read Eldar’s comments about the N9 when it came out and I thought it was ridiculous. However in his YLE interview I think he is spot on, and you will find his sentiments echoed in the maemo forums, Nokia conversation, your blog comments and many of Nokia’s shareholders.

          You are the only Nokia fan who seems to be FOR Nokia selling out their company, I just assumed that maybe you were paid to think so that’s all, don’t take it personal.

          • Jay Montano

            “You are the only Nokia fan who seems to be FOR Nokia selling out their company, I just assumed that maybe you were paid to think so that’s all, don’t take it personal.”

            Selling out as in using MS products or selling out as in the company to MS?

            For the former, I am not the only Nokia fan who is looking forward to Nokia Windows Phone. I can’t help it that after playing with it I found it actually to be a decent OS and see it as a positive thing.

            For the latter, of course I DON’T want Microsoft (or anyone) to buy Nokia.

            As a Nokia fan, the last thing I’d want is any of the current strategies to fail. Not Belle-Anna, Not MeeGo-Harmattan, Not Windows Phone. I’d want them all to be successful.

            • yohan.rk

              “I can’t help it that after playing with it I found it actually to be a decent OS and see it as a positive thing”

              maybe a decent os,maybe even better than actual meego, but the idea behind “linux open os”…was enough for me!!!respect

              • Jay Montano

                Yes, to each their own. I love MeeGo, but I think WP is great too and not as awful as some make it out to be.

    • the game

      “I can find more intelligence and objectivity in my cat’s litter box” Damn I f**k agree with you, but like Jay says when you are fan of something you have to hear criticism and praises, but of course in a constructive way not like this a**hole Eldar, Nokia has good ideas and bad ideas, but I still believe in the brand, because I’m a Nokia fan too

  • Jezz

    Eldar lost credibility a looooong time ago for any platform.
    His theory for journalism is throw as much shit around as possible, & hope it sticks.
    It just don’t read anything he writes, simple.

  • http://texrat.net Randall “Texrat” Arnold

    Eldar is still ticked over the whole N8 fiasco. He’s irrelevant.

  • Cod3rror

    N9′s design is fantastic, the OS has(had) a HUGE potential and the camera is REALLY good too, probably the best 8MP camera, better than Galaxy S II, and probably will be better than iPhone 5′s aswell.

    • akse

      :) me likes u now

    • jim

      What are you basing your camera statement off?

      • Cod3rror

        Camera samples provided.

  • Keist

    Is there anybody that still checks on his site for phone reviews, news and insights?

    • http://dgui.wordpress.com DGui

      I do from time to time, not for information, but to laugh at him, he can’t even write/speak proper English. He always rants about the most stupid of things. I actually feel sorry for him, must be bad to have no friends and being an idiot…

      • yohan

        your english is great,feel better?

  • tom

    The guy is a professional troll. Impressive he can make a living doing it.

  • N00-00

    Well, I hate Eldar to the core and have ignored his comments as I’ve heard that he works as a consultant for Samsung (no confirmed links).

    I think the point he wanted to make was that Early Nokia WP devices will be similar to the other WP devices in terms of specs. The display(not sure if Sea Ray’s display was same as N9′s), chipset and other components are MS specified.. As you said, Even Nokia admits that there won’t be a WP device with “Nokia Stamp” (not Nokia brand name) until mid-2012..

  • yohan

    it is not eldar ,it is nokia..we did not notice eldar’s comments till nokia deceived,dalayed ,axed,brought back,missed good os,rolled on a trojan…i remember him first revealing nokia’s plans ahead of many bloggers, who just repeated what he sayed.n9,microsoft wasn’t he the first?
    you use to look after him when nokia missed all events, fans sliping away:
    what i think of n9:too lonely(no future with meego bad message),too late,promised too mucht hat we expected greater(12mpx and hw kbd,…).nokia is responsible not murtazin

    • yohan

      besides seems hard to get that n9 or n950:not distributed in europe ?at least not all europe?
      strategy to create room for windows phone or recently released devices n8 e7….;too many devices:concentrate on few but great devices is nbetter strategy.(i m not talking bout apple)

      • Nrde

        Nokia has allocated certain amount of manufacturing capacity and don’t want to commit releasing it in all markets simultaneously. OR are every phone from others released in Europe and US at the same time for example. I’m 100% sure you are able to buy N9 from local shop shortly after the release.

        • yohan.rk

          “OR are every phone from others released in Europe and US at the same time for example”

          nor have i seen others release a waited phone only to devs…realy frustrating the n950 story.seems like n900 can boot up to 4os(kubuntu,maemo,meego,android) ,that i think,is prety flexible..was a way to go.n950 is only for devs with cheaper screen and no nfc…while masses were waiting for this…i still don’t get it!!

          • Jezz

            Sigh…
            Follow the maemo/meego forums ffs.

            Then you’ll be less clueless about availability.

  • http://shmerl.blogspot.com Shmerl

    Eldar sounds like a clown. Does he think anyone takes his seriously?

    • gordonH

      Possible friends with Elop?
      Hmm..Eldar and Elop sound friendly when u say it together. And both seem forever ready to kill meego and symbian.

      • Jay Montano

        No, I think Eldar dislikes Windows Phone too.

        Possibly more Android/Bada inclined.

        • Jim

          as we know Samsung is Eldar’s employer =)

    • yohan.rk

      it s not about eldar ,it s about nokia,is nokia credible?

      • yohan.rk

        on the other hand we like nokia (n9)but nokia(elop) don’t seem to like it!!one shot and forgotten…that’s more bizzare,not us but nokia!!!

  • Microsoft muppet

    The Apple-engadget writers relationship does not exist between Nokia and Mynokiablog writers.

    • Jim

      Have you heard about Nokia J(ay) headset named after Jay Montano?!

  • Luisito

    Just a note about Eldar… You can pick (surely you can) his leaks and rumors, at least most of them have been acurate, but you can’t take his opinion seriously in special when is relate to any Nokia device (just look the love that the N9 is getting, and he his trowing crap over it)
    If you ask to me, I don’t like the actual direction of Nokia, marrie with Microsoft isn’t good for nobody, just remenber to the MS-IBM marriaged in the 80′s – 90′s IBM lost everything…

  • erzhik

    Eldar is a moron who has beef with Nokia over something. Why do people even listen to him? He is as useful as a piece of toilet paper.

  • deep space bar

    nothing new…just a nokia n9 with wp7……now it just looks like another phone in the line…,moving along

  • Tk

    he is just a sad man, trying to get his existence proven… poor man…

  • umar

    he’s the mother of all lies. I don’t give a shit about him. Fuck him and fuck http://www.mobile-review.com

  • HK Blå

    Eldar ikävä kyllä puhuu totta, niin kuten osakke marikinat, Nokian osakkeet on laskennut aivan liikka ja ymmärrettävä se va ny oo, moi!

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